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That's your opinion, I would rather a mon be retested every Generation than for it to be assumed broken only for it to be Mid when we finally decide we want to test it/drop it. This is also known as the Blaziken Method.

Preferably with Tera gone, but Galarian Darmanitan and Heartflame Ogerpon.

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Why are we debating this at all? It's already been made clear that the we aren't in control of whether Sleep goes or stays, we are simply arguing over something that isn't up for debate. Only the Council's thoughts on this matter, and on that note, this discussion should've been relegated to...

So to be clear, do you believe putting Terastallization up for Suspect rather than Council vote was a mistake? It avoided a Ban by less than a few votes iirc, is this the consensus among the Council about how Tera was handled, or yourself? No hostility intended, talk of Tera has been avoided...

Imo the conversation of Sleep is/has been useless then because Council members have already gave their opinion and everyone arguing in the thread can't actually do anything one way or the other, having no actual effect on whether it goes or stays. I think we should all move on from the subject...

I think something we should acknowledge, regardless of what we individually think about Sleep, is that this discussion is worthless if the Clause removal/Banning of Sleep moves is held by Council vote and not the people actually discussing Sleep. Asking the players to discuss it, only to be...

- Gen 9 National Dex RU - Gen 9 National Dex STABmons - Gen 9 National Dex Almost Any Ability - Gen 9 Nationional Dex Little Cup - Gen 8 National Dex Monotype Tbh a ND Random Battles sounds like it would be really fun if implemented, but the problem is a bunch of sets would be less useful...

Earthquake is more of a hindrance than Knock Off from what I've experienced. It's Bulk is so high that Knock Off rarely gets it low enough to even 2HKO it afterwords unless it's taken chip, but taking random Earthquakes always sucks. In my opinion, Parting Shot is pretty mandatory if you don't...

Just going to point out, that in addition to this, altering the Sleep Mod to only allowing clicking a Sleep move when all opposing Pokémon are awake on the field is also a "replicatable in the game" alternative to Pokémon Stadium's Clause that's been used, since just as players can share each...

You and I both know they're going to talk their way out of banning Rest if Sleep does go out the window. The problem here is, no one is focused on whether the Sleep Clause is necessary to keep Sleep in check, they just want the Clause gone in general and have already rendered the argument of...

Removing the Sleep Clause itself is counterintuitive, since everyone agrees that being able to put multiple Pokémon to Sleep isn't a good thing and that it works how it does now because it helps with counterplay. Now, it's perfectly valid to want the Sleep Clause removed under the logic of it...