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huh... ok. i'll be sure to try that. i guess because i didn't see "PLAN B" in bold, underlined, and italicized print, it went... [quick blow] over my head. sorry.

bump... not only that, but i've changed the team around quite a bit (inner thoughts: hell, it ain't the same team anymore). and there's still the problem of setup... it takes too long. i need some more suggestions... tell me what you think. Abomasnow item: leftovers ability: snow warning...

all good ideas... now the first priority should be to try the team without the wish supporter. if it doesn't work for me, i'll try to rework the team a little more...

after milling it over, reading and rereading the hail guide(inner thoughts: Yeah!! LIKE 3 TIMES!!!!) i've decided to go with the hail team, but now i cant finish it... i'm inundated with ideas. currently im going to use the abomasnow spread, the stallrein set, and the arcanine sets suggested...

... .... ..... not exactly the positive feedback that i expected... Amre. almost like you were trying commit a verbal homicide(it was that brutal...). ow. thanx FJ.i like me a good arcanine myself... i was thinking, instead of macho brace (giving opponents to still get a chance of a kill)...

NOTE: i dont know how to post pics. and i don't have Platinum version... no i dont have a long sob story for ya but i've been practicing on multiple sources, and when this team fails... it fails hard. I need some help getting over some of my weaknesses (typically anything faster than me) but i...

man, its been awhile... i have a 3 pokemon team, but i keep running into the same couple of problems... the pokemon are as follows: abomasnow (well, duh...) vaporeon bronzong stealth rock and wish support does well for what i intend to do, but the same "infernape or fire type" problem...

ok, so trapping teams suck monkey balls.... i have been looking around and most teams have a similar pattern. the new movesets thread had some interesting ideas, but i haven't really seen anything usuable (save for the one or two ideas) imo. i'm looking for some good all-around defensive...

ok... wrong choice of words. but i have been thinking of a team that works with a set of bulky pokemon and some wish support. maybe i'm tinking or trying too hard... Idk... any other tips or strategies?

what about something resembling tai chi? ya know, use your opponents energy against them, that kind of thing? i know theres dusknoir and pain split... but is there any more?

would protect protect you from perrish song turn 2? thinking of other battle methods... what other methods (besides trick room, weather teams, traps, baton pass, and the basic counter counter teams) are there?

good idea and some nice advice. And on an unrelated note, I think I won't go through with a perish trap team. Are there any other teams that trap, but to a different effect?

i don't know why they can't fix themselves. but, such is human nature... (if they could, that'll be less stress on me.)

this is true, but what are the chances?

would Rotom be any good? and if so what moves should i consider?

for a while, i've been thinking long and hard, and do like that perrish trap team. I thought of 4 pokemanz, garchomp, umbreon, celebii, dugtrio. do any changes need to make? and do you know 2 pokemon to put in?

thats a good strategy, I should look into it... so when you u-turn after the song, does it still stay in effect on your now Dugtrio?

metagame doesn't matter to much to me. If i like it, i'll use it, if i don't, i'll use it against you. That's not to say that the whole meta is bad, just bits & pieces, like originality issues. but if you're into that kind of thing, far be it for me to stand in your way.

this all sounds really helpful, thanx. is there anything else... although, i do like that "use your favorite pokemon" tidbit.

yeah, i should take a break, with life going on and all... one question, whats laddering?