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You're not thinking about both sides here. And I never said I was a fanboy.

Not many water/dark type pokes are capable of replacing Greninja. It's best to nerf it than to just ban it to Ubers. Moves like shadow sneak, power up punch, and grass knot Just so Greninja doesn't serve as a huge threat to other types.

Many trainers rely on Greninja, but others are complaining about its giant move pool. I think a complex ban from its move pool is able to keep both sides happy.

Greninja shouldn't be banned since there are many ways to counter it, and it also has some set backs such as: Suffers from the 4-slot-syndrome It's weak to most priority moves Conkeldurr can easily get rid of greninja regardless of the fact that greninja can learn Extrasensory He can...

>Ban Greninja >Has Greninja as part of forum sig