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I find this ongoing conversation about Heatran vs Aegislash very unhealthy. A ban should never be made on the question "what will hurt the type less". The ONLY questions you should be asking yourself are 1. Is Heatran broken with steel support 2. Is Aegislash broken with steel support

Isn't there also the option to cap dynamax hp at 1.5 rather than x2? It's a mechanic in game. It would allow us to keep dyna while making it harder to set up due to less bulk. Then if unpredictability is still a problem we could always go with Gigantamax only.

Well actually, i think the team support argument works both ways. Yes Hoopa-U was banned in OU meaning in theory it should only be more threatening in mono. Because there are fewer ways to counter it. But if you look from the other side you have to consider that Hoopa-U cant get the same team...

Won vs p2. But major hax interrupted near the end of the battle. http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7monotype-510762588

I checked the list and didn't see anything about this. According to wiki Emergency Exit should NOT activate if poke's hp is restored immediately with a sitrus berry. Yet it has activated on me several times. Here is one such instance. I also looked through the forum and noticed no one put a...

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Im seeing a lot of ban happiness going around in the first couple days of this game being out. It seems like people are far too willing to jump back to the more familiar (and bland) oras metagame with thier bans. Lets please let the metagame settle a bit before going crazy with the ban hammer...

I am loving the change to megas. It should also free up mega Zard x hopefully to fire (they won't use it that much anyway but flying was the reason it was OP)

Will there be any form of this teir where we can play without Megas? I think this is especially important for this meta because of how much GF themselves are limiting where megas can be used. If we actually have both I wonder which will be more popular, the mega or non mega meta. Will people...

But they weren't applied the same way. It would be like if a mon like M-Altaria wasn't banned (it was banned because of a rarely used moveset as an example). Then we banned a different mon letter for a rarely used moveset because it was broken. People would want to resuspect M-Altaria then...

I was under the impression that we are resuspecting because the rules of banning a mon have been taken in a new direction. In the old suspect, it would matter if someone said banning Hoopa would hurt dark. Now it doesn't. Only the effect on the meta game and if it is broken matter

I used to agree with this. But in a sense we are closer to OU now than you might think. Due to the fact that we no longer care if a mon is neccesary to a type. And we no longer have type bans. The only differences with OU and us is team support and whether it destroys multiple types. To be...

Everyone but a few seem to be dodging around the real issue of Hoopa U being crazy good on Psy as well

Sableye will very clearly change everyone's view on the Hoopa ban because now a precident has bee set. The arguments may not have changed but the way this meta thinks has changed greatly. Before you could argue that banning Hoopa would hurt dark. Now you cannot because that is no longer...

Wow, 1/2 a percent? That's a shame. Split decisions like this are always unencouraging on how wanted/neccessary the ban really was. Edit: 23 to 15. Okay that isn't bad.