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  1. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    Ah, I'm so happy to hear about how the targeting is applied after the move is selected. Because now there is actual planning that can be done on a big enough scale to have an effect. Love how complex palace doubles is, but it was looking like another situation where the format was just too...
  2. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    Congrats! Status moves like toxic do seem to have some added utility in doubles due to having access to a second target in case they repeat...except from what I'm reading now it seems the Ai target choosing is different in the palace. Actually it seems smart targeting might be completely...
  3. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    My trick to getting substitute is replaying emerald over and over. It's extra easy if you trade out your mudkip and teach it surf, waterfall, and strength right away then trade it back holding a lucky egg (sometimes I trade in a claydol with dig and teleport to save a few steps too). You don't...
  4. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    I have some good news for you, check out https://turskain.github.io/ For anyone wishing to upload custom sets to other versions of the damage calc though, I advise going to the github and downloading a copy. Within the files there is one called "Setdex" or more likely setdex_rse. You can...
  5. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    For the arena, Kangaskhan is one of the bulkier pokemon to be able to run fake out+protect+dig. Meaning if it's slower it can also sometimes effectively do a dig+rest turn to win skill and body. For the palace, early bird is tempting in the palace but Kagaskhan doesn't have a defensive move...
  6. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    You reaped the rewards of getting gold on the first try for actually building a team for the palace, so props for that because almost no one does outside of this community and they struggle with it. I definitely view double team as a good strategy for getting gold. Would loved to see leftovers...
  7. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    I think this would be more appropriate in a different thread, probably a thread based on 1v1 gameplay. Like perhaps Past Gen Teams | Smogon Forums If you know what team your brother is going to use you might be able to get people to suggest a team to counter it. But it sounds like you're at a...
  8. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    I think the question that changed my mind is "would you disallow someone that obtained these pokemon from the event decades ago from posting a record" Because if not then it does feel unreasonable for everyone else to be competing in a different format. Personally I won't use these, I don't...
  9. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    If they resist fake out or use a defensive move on your protect/ dig you can lose skill. Other difficulties exist. Some one needs to compile a list of what it actually beats.
  10. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    I'm sure you've been a little unlucky but it's not the easiest team to play. The gold fight for that team hinges on slaking finishing suicune. To optimize your chances you should probably start it as a suicune mirror then bring in slaking if your suicune goes down. But this is a good example...
  11. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    Kommo-o are we not separating multi and link multi into different categories or has no one submitted? Also check out what the ranking hall calls it, just link apparently.
  12. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    High palace developments For the low palace I note that suicune which learns hydropump at level 71 becomes definitively better than surf because only having to hit once is so much better than hitting twice and with modest and a small amount of evs it can ohko armaldo. Which inspired us to look...
  13. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    Low palace Mega post Fair warning: this was a 15 page document in word ahahahaha So originally this was a study of the low palace in order to yield fast but reliable early round teams because in a facility with such high variance, the palace record holder will likely be whoever makes the most...
  14. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    I want to point out a second similar question that is "what is the possibility the lead pokemon is a certain set", as based on the pret disassembly it's possible the lead pokemon is also the one that is chosen first and therefore the odds are not affected by species or item clause. Though it...
  15. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    Battles 49 and Lower documents (palace focus) During the first seven rounds trainers with limited sets and weaker iv's are used and ramp up (not to be seen again until you beat battle number 256*7=1792). Normally these can be ignored as a weaker subset of the challenges that come after. In any...
  16. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    Frontier threats, a Battle Palace perspective This is going to be a breakdown and classification of the frontier threats (lvl 50) with respect to what makes them tough in the palace, comparing solutions to them and their frequency. This should be a description of threats I start to worry about...
  17. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    This is definitely the best team we have so far, and now it is better optimized and we know the plan for various matchups in higher detail and with more confidence. We have run it over and over against hard trainers like dragon tamers, black belts, and swimmers. Funnily enough I think swimmers...
  18. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    Maybe this has been talked about but I tried searching the thread and couldn't find anything. In the past I have brushed off this little bit of information as maybe poorly written since it was from a very old site (ultimate pokemon center) and it wouldn't change that much. But as our...
  19. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    If you start a new thread I will follow you there. The sets are known https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Orre_Colosseum/Lv._100_Battle_Mode_Single It's just gen 3 doubles 3v3 with no restictions. So explosion next to gengar or an endure/protect pokemon is going to be strong as well as...
  20. dgice

    Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records

    I didn't have them at first but I went in and changed them for the recording because I just had to pay my respects for how you came in and solved problems I described and problems I didn't describe. Seeing your improvements to the team was an awesome feeling. They're both great nicknames too...
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