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Trick room teams imo have to be very offensive. You should lead off with amon that knows trick room and explosion so that way you start off with a bang to lead into a heavy hitting sweeper with slow speed for four turns. Preferably the sweeper knows explosion. From there switch in similar mons...

No offense intended Ginganinja, that was me trying to rush cause I was supposed to go to an amusement park in half an hour at the time of the post. That got canceled soz, here I am again But thanks for giving suggestions the second time around. Change of pace is nice :D Well I realize taunt...

I was just letting you know I wasn't being so naive. That's a hunch. Not just throwing shit at a wall, if that was the case I would've just been putting in and out as many pokes as possible 'til it works. I can't exactly argue with that argument. When you have a good argument you have...

You didn't catch I was just toying with your words. You said no one builds a team~ I'm not naive enough to think that I'm the first doing this. Hell I'm not naive enough to think this is the first time someone's made this argument. Forcing innovation is always the best way to go with all...

@Chris- I know this. Nobody built a team with this intent until five months ago when I did. ;-) Seriously tho' it's a team built on putting on pressure on what pokes I can't toxicstall out. A buffed vespiquen will typically be able to pp stall out anything that doesn't die to poison. It's...

Oh right I forgot to put reasoning behind the whole toxic. Rotom forms/zapdos/usedtobemence/gyarados and pokemon similar to that usually break me otherwise. Hence having a couple pokes with the move toxic despite having toxic spikes. That was my whole gameplan. Vespiquens movepool isn't...

Alright well, there's no like forum on smogon that goes "Hey I'm trying to build this team, can somebody help me out so I can get some outside advice" instead I have to post it straight to a rate my team. Whatever. Anyways I got tired of playing balanced teams forever and before I stopped...

I think the decline of rest talking isn't necessarily that people don't know how effective they can be. Anybody who looked at a suicune or snorlax would quickly learn just how powerful and effective it can be. I think, rather, the decline can be because of the amount of trick users on some...

A couple things! The only working format for a trickroom team I find is Lead does this Trick rooms first turn It can either attack, status or explode. For reasons that are not competitive I had a exeggutor lead that has leaf storm/sleep powder/explode/trickroom with a focus sash I usually...

Rule 3 is a definite. But I just want to point out that your Scizor is Timid...

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Hi! First off I'd like to thank you for the dugtrio idea. I might try one out on my team, would allow me to use omastar again and just generally deal with pokemon after rain has gone down and i lose a poke. Regardless I've been experimenting with a lot of leads and Joe would normally have...

It's 99 degrees in Beloit Wisconsin. Friggen Wisconsin! Well I guess it is a little understandable given where in Wisconsin I am in but, 99 degrees is very unusual. Luckily our air conditioning is working again and I can be a basement dweller all I want. But man it's like a wave of death...

Scarf breloom is outsped only by Aero who you can seed bomb as they taunt then kill as they set up rocks. Not the best but it's acceptable. Any other situation against a none scarf lead (and some of them will try to trick a scarf thinking you're a sub puncher) you can spore, prevent the...

Windbrisk are ten dollars? I've got plethoras of those iirc. I stopped playing shortly after morningtide. The game lost every control aspect possible. The closest to control you could get would be spamming terror and that one creature, wow I forgot it's name. I'm waiting for all of lorwyn...

That, and CHing any walls like skarmory will happen.

I'm not going to go all into it but I would like to just suggest two quick things. If you find swamperts to be a pest as far as leads go, try grass knot over eq. It's been theory mon for a few weeks in my head but first turn grass knotting a swampert should kill it, right? I didn't run any...

Oh wow this is pretty fucking cool knowing. One game I barely got a opponent down and finally got it in range to kill, it landed a second protect then I missed with a second draco meteor. In that same game I missed WoW two times. Odds of hax this bad: 1 in 320 (or 0.3125%) AHSUM I do love...

Basically the required bands for listing. I can understand liking, and even disliking, metallica, megadeth, black sabbath, and Slayer, but it feels a little redundant to list them. In general they're just the core of metal and have been accepted by most metal fans everywhere. Y'know? So...

Between the Buried and Me, Darkest Hour, and Nevermore here. Edit: Protest The Hero. This thread needs less mainstream.