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wellspring is the lynchpin of why you see huge consolidation around ting lu bo where most of the other mons, apart from blanket physical check like moltres, ghold, and pech, are all mons faster than 350 (or have priority) and can switch into wellspring once like zama, pult, bolt, dnite, gambit...

thinking we should ban kyurem

Been playing a lot more recently and DD Kyurem is nearly as ridiculous as Gouging Fire was. +1 5 hit Icicle Spear has damage that's on par with +1 Protosynthesis Roaring Moon Knock Off and +2 Tera Normal Gliscor Facade. For most "counters", you don't even need Tera Blast and just a defensive...

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weezing

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wellspring next

wait til u hear about tera

Anyone with with a brain (or even eyes) can tell you Smogon's tiering philosophy is pretty agnostic to raw power creep. Statistically Baxcalibur doesn't look like any better of a sweeper than Haxorus. The obvious difference between the two is the functional tools available to us in Gen 9...

the pragmatic thing to save this metagame is to ban weather abilities

The only reasonable solutions are to either A) ban darkrai or B) ban sleep entirely. banning hypnosis and sleep powder don't pass the smell test of reasonable tiering action.

Presented without comment | 3 | Gliscor | 47 | 31.33% | 46.81% | | 8 | Sneasler | 37 | 24.67% | 64.86% | | 21 | Ribombee | 14 | 9.33% | 64.29% |

don't really feel like writing something long but i strongly disagree with lily's sentiment that the addition of defog corv and weezing wouldn't be massive differences in terms of alleviating the stress of hazards on the metagame, or that they, especially corviknight with ID, are incredibly...

Ice beam clef has been a staple for multiple generations. Ghold definitely suppresses clef in general as it can't really hinder it with any of it's utility moves and the opportunity cost of constantly letting in a hard hitting setup mon freely is extremely high.

Gliscor can definitely be annoying and unfun but I really think it would be a poor tiering choice to target it first. If hazards are the biggest issue, while Gliscor is the best spiker, it's also a hazard resistant mon that you don't have to run boots on, and can force progress with sd and...

It's hard to argue Roaring Moon is broken when the litmus test we've decided to use Kingambit not being broken, and I think for the most part Kingambit is still a much stronger mon in general than Roaring Moon. However, Finch did make some really good points re: the meta being better than ever...

That's just the nature of staggered releases like Home, DLC etc. that come with modern games. Making adjustments to the metagame via the community with suspect tests is literally what makes the game sustainable.

gliscor contributes towards funneling gameplay towards an unideal route but I've hard time believing it's actually suspect worth. While it's the best hazard setter atm, it's also pretty much the only hazard resistant mon outside of corv, and with the ubiquity of knock off now I'm not sure...

It has nothing to do with whether you're 1700s or 1900s, you can't just can extrapolate it's high ladder success based on just your own games, especially if you're using structures/certain mons that are overcompensating for the fact that the bear is so oppressive in the builder and centralizing...