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  1. Free will

    *sigh* like I said, I didn't want to, but it looks like we're going to have to visit the dictionary: il·log·i·cal not logical; contrary to or disregardful of the rules of logic; unreasoning: an illogical reply. Since a word and a its definition mean the same thing, we can simply substitute...
  2. Free will

    That's nice, I'll take a good look at that. It was just a lighthearted comment with me remembering how painful that course was. Jesus fucking christ. How did you even take that as a 'personal' comment anyway? Yes, except that you brought up the parallel postulate while referencing Euclidean...
  3. Free will

    Right, and finding a general solution to equations of the 5th order or higher, and certain functions for which an exact integral cannot be found, etc, etc... The odd perfect number problem is still a conjecture though. Anyway. Back to connecting this to logic: none of this shows that there...
  4. Free will

    Obviously it's the connotation of "illogical" that teekay doesn't like, but that doesn't change the fact that not logical and illogical mean the same exact thing, and you'd have to be incredibly stupid to suggest otherwise. Connotation is also why certain people think that being an atheist is...
  5. Free will

    I gave you a challenge -- to give your logic behind believing in a god -- and all you did was cop out of it by saying "oh well you won't accept my argument nevermind goodbye." I've been in debates before and this always turns out the same way, there's a flaw in your reasoning and you refuse to...
  6. Free will

    Umm, ok. You were the one who gave the halting theorem as an example. I don't think this is true. The theorem states: For any consistent formal, computably enumerabletheory that proves basic arithmetical truths, an arithmetical statement that is true, but not provable in the theory, can be...
  7. CCD

    To elaborate: that 'four years' quote is indeed snopes material, though European bees are extremely important to the economy. Unlike most bees which are picky, European bees will pollinate everything. Bees were not originally native to North America, they were brought by colonists. They were the...
  8. Another Virus Thread

    If nothing else works, maybe a System Restore back to a date before it was downloaded. But Google says http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic55148.html
  9. Free will

    Of course, claiming that I'm not going to be satisfied with your reasoning is a not-so-subtle hint that your reasoning is flawed and won't stand up to scrutiny. === Umm... "it's illogical to believe in gods" is pretty much the definition of soft atheism. Or are you seriously suggesting that...
  10. Free will

    A theorem is by definition proven. Perhaps you mean an axiom? If so, that doesn't mean that logic is incomplete, since we don't pick axioms just because we feel like them being true, they need to be logical. I don't see how the halting problem shows that logic is incomplete. In order to claim...
  11. Question about Christianity and God

    Open your eyes and look around. Of course we have. a) You quoted Answers in Genesis 3 times. b) I responded to your quoting of Yockey by quoting an article that shows that he/you are wrong about the probability being too low for life to happen, yet you mock me for quoting an article. c) You...
  12. Question about Christianity and God

    I'm not entirely clear on the point you're trying to make (can you clarify?), but it sounds like you're agreeing with me; a universe fit for life VS life fit for the universe is a cause/effect problem.
  13. Test your vocabulary; Donate rice

    Interesting. Is there anything stopping people from just going to dictionary.com though and looking up the words?
  14. Question about Christianity and God

    You've got it completely backwards. The universe is not fine-tuned to fit life, life is fine-tuned to fit the universe. If the laws of the universe are so perfect for life, why is life -- as seen throughout the universe -- so rare? Bullshit. Evolution is trial-and-error. Mutations emerge...
  15. Free will

    Which theorems would those be?
  16. Free will

    Logic is not an optional system through which the universe may or may not want to work. It's the five-letter way that means "the way things exist/work." You can see this by substituting the phrase for the word. There is no logical reason to believe in gods, that there is exactly one god, that...
  17. I am about to embark on a magical journey through time.

    In 10 years from now, you will be dead, replaced by a similar but quite different you with only some memories left of your previous self. Your letter should include anything you find important now and want to preserve in some form. You can include this message from me to you if you want: there...
  18. Free will

    Another problem with free will is: is there free will in heaven? If no, why on earth but not in heaven? If yes, how is that possible? Heaven is supposed to be free from sin/imperfection, but free will is what keeps getting blamed for sin.
  19. Question about Christianity and God

    You don't think the creation story should be taken literally, but is that how its original writers felt? That's the thing about the Bible, if you start with the premise that it's somehow divine truth, you can hammer it to your own beliefs any way you want to. Does it? Hell is not mentioned at...
  20. Question about Christianity and God

    **double-posting to try and avoid walls of text** That's not an argument, that's a copout. If god exists and is omnipotent, he could easily present himself as not coming off as insane (death for picking up sticks on the sabbath, anyone?) or having his must-follow-or-suffer-eternal-torment words...
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