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  1. llucas

    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    However because porygon z has a turn of setup and cannot be switched out it it means that tipically it's worn out by priority moves, focus sash, scarves, bulky mons that haven't got a weakness, leech seed or poison damage so pain split can bring the opponent within reach of an OHKO by Porygon's...
  2. llucas

    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    Now that pokebank is close to opening, is pain split a good third move? Sure recover is more reliable, but pain split can deal damage and recover HP at the same time especially since on of the ways to stop a porygon z is poisoning him.
  3. llucas

    Porygon-Z

    By not having a chance to setup, i mean that one turn you use to nasty plot yourself can be enough to cripple you or get you killed, since the second you activate z-conversion the opponent throws everything it has at you. Mind you, even before conversion porygon-z has enough speed to be able to...
  4. llucas

    Porygon-Z

    Some of my experiences with electric z-conversion porygon Z: I understand not mentioning thunder because of the reduced accuracy, but i think discharge deserves a mention: it's slightly weaker than thunderbolt, but if the enemy pokemon survived discharge it probably would survive thunderbolt...
  5. llucas

    Porygon-Z

    Just call the electric z-conversion "electric soldier porygon". What, it's relevant
  6. llucas

    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    Some calcs for comparison between hidden power and adaptability thunderbolt, using standard sets, with a modest porygon z after electric z-conversion. (mega scizor bulky swords dance) +1 252 SpA Adaptability Porygon-Z Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 200 SpD Scizor-Mega: 250-296 (72.8 - 86.2%) --...
  7. llucas

    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    I think gobln is being a playful troll though, considering his post has meme and smogon-children in the same sentence. The only time when we'll see bug type porygon is if the meta is overrun with dark and psychics, and even then there are plenty of strong bug types like mega scizor, genesect...
  8. llucas

    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    actually no, thunderbolt and thunder are redirected but discharge still hits everyone, so not even an A-marowak switch in from the opponent would stop porygon z, and unlike tapu koko and xurkitree, porygon has acess to shadow ball to OHKO it or other ghost types immune to fake out.
  9. llucas

    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    Or maybe a volt absorb pachirisu with follow me, or a lightning rod togedemaru with fake out to keep porygon z alive. Would that be the return of the meme vgc final?
  10. llucas

    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    If you look at the vgc that's happening now, you'll se quite a few porygon 2's, and they all carry toxic. Doubles is fast paced, but on the other hand it's much harder to keep pokemon from waiting out and not suffer from poison damage, and in the end of the matches a poisoned pokemon may have...
  11. llucas

    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    So I did some doubles pokebank OU testing, and so far i'm finding that porygon there behaves much like he does in singles with protect as the third move, working well with both electric and ghost conversions, benefiting a lot from support moves like stealth rocks, aurora veil, sticky web. The...
  12. llucas

    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    As i've finished singles testing for now, i've been trying out Porygon-Z in doubles. Having a great movepool and a strong special attack means it's dangerous by itself, but as i think someone else already pointed out Porygon-Z and Porygon 2 compliment each other near perfectly...
  13. llucas

    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    Pushinguplillacs, i think I mentioned running shadow ball or dark pulse on an electric porygon-z is not strictly necessary but only there as an option for maximum coverage. Indeed, adaptability means that hitting for neutral damage with electric or ghost is like hitting for 2X damage with an...
  14. llucas

    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    So i reckon i finished singles testing for now, so i'm going to sum up some conclusions. Offensively, the attacks worth having are: ice beam/blizzard (ice) - super effective coverage against dragon, flying, grass, ground, ineffective against fire, ice, steel, water, can cause freezing...
  15. llucas

    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    The point of bulkier EV's is because I instead raise Porygon-Z's speed with Scolipede's Speed boost + baton pass. Even at max speed after conversion it doesn't outspeed a few specialized ataquers like Pheromosa or Mega Alakazam, not to mention scarfed garshomp and the like, while even at zero...
  16. llucas

    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    So i've tried out both protect and magic coat, and i think neither are good ideas. Protect just makes you waste a turn, and magic coat as a move is useless unless your a mind reader. Recover didn't do much for me, but since even after conversion porygon Z still doesn't outspeed everything, what...
  17. llucas

    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    If your problem is priority moves, a better solution would be tapu lele's psychic field since it negates them.
  18. llucas

    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    I think pushing up lillacs is right, z power hyperbeam isn't as great as I thought because it's not strong enough to take down special walls, and you can't take advantage of super effective damage. thunderbolt ice beam shadow ball/dark pulse conversion allows you to cover as many types as...
  19. llucas

    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    The problem with adaptability is that ice beam isn't then strong enough to take on threats at neutral damage, like elecvire. What about support moves? For example Tailwind or agility + baton pass should be enough to allow it to outspeed most scarfers, it also benefits greatly from electric...
  20. llucas

    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    So I'm not very good at this, but I tried out a few porygon-z conversion sets. The first and less conventional was Charge beam ice beam HP Ground conversion The idea was to make what was a setup sweeper even stronger over time, with electric type since it has the best defensive typing (no...
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