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  1. SpeedShuffling: A Discussion of Swift Destruction (+1 example set!)

    That's not true. A third gen Granbull can have Reflect via egg move, learn Roar at level 28, and be taught Counter via Emerald/LG/FR tutor. This is the only example I've found, though.
  2. SpeedShuffling: A Discussion of Swift Destruction (+1 example set!)

    The primary reason I came to the conclusion that Toxic Spikes were not worth the 7.3% drop is that only 7/8 of the top 30 OU pokemon are effectively hindered by toxic spikes. (Machamp depends if its using a guts set) Reflect is also a decent idea, but I can see a few problems. First, there...
  3. SpeedShuffling: A Discussion of Swift Destruction (+1 example set!)

    Assist does not work properly on Shoddy, unfortunately. I forgot why you can only select sleep talk once when using a choice scarf. Refresh me? I do understand that Switcheroo is a viable move, especially since it can muck up the "lone curselax" or whichever last stat-upper pokemon the foe...
  4. SpeedShuffling: A Discussion of Swift Destruction (+1 example set!)

    That Smeargle is a great idea, and can certainly be swapped with Blastoise without loosing team synergy. I considered Switcheroo and Protect literally a minute before reading your post. But I realized that Sleep Talk can still select them, unlike Assist. So you loose your 100% Roar chance when...
  5. SpeedShuffling: A Discussion of Swift Destruction (+1 example set!)

    Here's my take on an AssistShuffle team: Skarmory @ Focus Sash Keen Eye Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk) 252 HP | 4 Def | 252 Spe - Stealth Rock - Spikes - Whirlwind - Roar Persian @ Choice Scarf Limber Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk) 252 HP | 4 Def | 252 spe - Assist - Roar - Sleep Talk Purugly @...
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