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Imo None is our best option here, I agree with it fitting into the same realm as skarmary or drudigon

Are you accounting for dex cuts.

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Many of the things said on this thread I agree with, and many more I disagree with but think are valuable. In particular, I agree that our defensive spread isn't too important and either physical, special, or mixed spreads would work well. In particular, I think something high overall mixed like...

I would love that. This is one of my favs, but the flat artstyle is making it hard for me to imagine what e.g. a 3d model or detailed sprite or something would look like. Supporting art would probably help.

Amamama's post made most of the points I wanted to, but I would like to add that fire coverage might be interesting for hitting ghold and gambit a bit harder. Neither of them are particularly good against us anyway, so it's probably not a great idea, but if we were to add coverage I think fire...

Going to make a longer post later responding to the other questions, but Emphatically no. The Mlati and talonflame sets we're emulating are not the booster sets, and boosting would vastly complicate our build if we try to avoid making this thing a fast and bulky sweeper (which we should). Just...

Something underrated I'd like to bring up (without even being fully sure if it is a good idea): whirlpool. Whirlpool sets are useful even to non-whirlpool sets because it means you have to play more careful around them. Tapu Fini in particular really appreciated whirlpool even on calm mind sets...

Seconding Brambane's typology. A mon that can only switch in on its major counters when at 100% health and no less will end up very inconsistent. Multiscale should be used to give conditionally safer switchins to mons we would normally not switch well in to but want to check.

Ribombee is a great sticky webs user, I've found. Fast, decent special attack, and a host of nice utility like stun spore. Slap a mental herb or focus sash on him and you're cooking. Pairs well with hoopa.

counterpoint: 252+ Atk Sneasler Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 204+ Def Hatterene: 336-396 (105.6 - 124.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ Atk Sneasler Dire Claw vs. 252 HP / 204+ Def Hatterene: 224-266 (70.4 - 83.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Hoopa pairs really nicely with cornerstone, I'm still crafting a team around them but I've climed to like 1600 thus far with a web+hoopa+cornerstone offensive team that has been a lot of fun. It's objectively quite a bit weaker than hearthflame but has a few key matchups against fliers and also...

A gut gebentsht yor to baxcalibur, who is fucking gone from this tier.

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