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Aye, I've had a lot of success with defensive Ice teams, winning or losing based on skillful and less-than skillful plays. I do also agree that the fact if only taunt ape was just a little less bulky, it would be something to plan around in the battle, rather than plan my team comp for, given...

I'd like to reserve Cloyster. With the Meta-shift, I think it might have a place on some OU teams, and I accidentally wrote the whole thing already as a self-analysis. Jordy: no