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  1. Doubles National Dex Doubles OU - Metagame Discussion - Shadow Tag Banned!

    Mega Camerupt is very gimmicky overall and has better non-mega options for its role. For example, Torkoal maxes out better on damage without a mega slot: 252+ SpA Camerupt-Mega Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Kangaskhan: 349-412 (84.2 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (note Torkoal maintains an...
  2. Doubles National Dex Doubles OU - Metagame Discussion - Shadow Tag Banned!

    Have some updated thoughts after playing more and looking at underutilized options, there might be some minor changes from my previous list. :Iron-Hands: Tier 3 -> Tier 1 Yeah I just think this thing is really good, it tanks almost every hit possible, helps you setup pins or sweepers, OHKOs a...
  3. Doubles National Dex Doubles OU - Metagame Discussion - Shadow Tag Banned!

    I've just gotten one of my accounts to top 5 and another to top 50 rotating between different teams. Open to trying more teams just wanted to give my thoughts on the meta and some issues I have with the banlist. :Tapu-Fini: TIER 2 -> TIER 1 Probably the best mon in the format if I had to pick...
  4. SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

    Oh and wait 24 hours after catching all the regis because what you listed was too easy :\
  5. SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

    why would you give expected value including a crit
  6. SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

    Tachyon Cutter is single target, the description would be different if it were like Pult
  7. SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

    Idk if it's been said but Incineroar now learns Helping Hand, Temper Flare, and somehow... kept Knock Off and Parting Shot too. VGC's Biggest Protagonist is at it again.
  8. SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

    gyarados(and great tusk) get(s) temper fire, so it finally has physical fire coverage. Metagross with Knock Off is nice too but idk if that's going to bring it back to the glory days of it's viability.
  9. SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

    Supercell Slam is going to be inconsistent(having a miss chance is not good when you want to guarantee a win) in singles even moreso with the dominance of ground types, and an even bigger risk in doubles where everyone has protect. I'm with Zetalz on this one, Wild Charge is on average better.
  10. SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

    There are movepool updates under tms, we don't know everything yet. Don't be an idiot just check there.
  11. SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c_322MP70wk__Jcf7AlMP9q1JA_M9szifAt06DPDwww/htmlview# if anything is confirmed it's in the doc, stop asking and start looking https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c_322MP70wk__Jcf7AlMP9q1JA_M9szifAt06DPDwww/htmlview# if anything is confirmed it's in...
  12. SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

    With Knock Off already becoming more limited the chances of that are near 0
  13. SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

    High Jump Kick: 130bp 90 accuracy, Axe Kick: 120bp 90 accuracy + 30% confusion chance, Jump Kick: 100bp 95 accuracy Supercell Slam is exactly as strong and accurate as Jump Kick
  14. SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

    Viable chance this is in a direct tomorrow so who cares lol? Regardless Winter 2023 is so soon that it's like, why even bother?
  15. SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

    anyone know about the new abilities? how much does hospitality heal for? toxic chain proc %? is supersweet syrup one stage lowered?
  16. SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

    as they should(?) Also 90bp Double Kick + Tail Slap/Beat Up, but no recovery and Poison Jab/Play Rough as STABs seem... rough pun intended. I have no clue what that thing is supposed to do, it can't even really fish for/get the most out of toxic chain procs either without recovery. It just...
  17. SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

    soft rules like pokemon can't have their abilities changed over generations, no stat buffs/nerfs, no new mons during a generation. Soft rules we came to accept as a community in earlier generations, but we saw change overtime. My point is there's no real rule to follow here.
  18. SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

    there used to be rules like no new mons during a generation, or pokemon like this shouldn't be able to learn X move or have this BST. Idk but anything can happen most of these rules are arbitrary.
  19. SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics

    they must've nerfed Breloom because of Loaded Dice + Technician Bullet Seed + Tera or smth idk
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