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I think Garchomp was just banned in a vote, but I don't think any of the voters explained their reasons. Why was he banned? Also, how do they pick the pokemon to vote on? It doesn't look like it has to do with usage since Garchomp is 4th and the rest of the suspect list is even lower.

In the forth gen metagame, endeavor smeargle was a monster in Ubers. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72321 name: Level 1 Endeavor Lead move 1: Spore move 2: Endeavor move 3: Trick Room/Protect move 4: Dragon rage/Extreme Speed item: focus sash nature: brave evs: 252 attack, 0...

The thing is that I'm dealing with a couple of different types of guys. On the one hand, I've seen a lot of people that are into fighting games. Those guys hate bans, and disagree with the logic smogon uses when it initiates a ban. If they started from scratch, Kyogre would be borderline at...

Oh, I know it doesn't. I'm more interested in the mechanics of creating a server in shoddy, and expect nothing from smogon in the way of agreement with the method. I'm mostly adding the extra information because the server needs to use different rules than smogon, and I'm not sure how to...

Actually, I think I would like to start that server simply using all the Ubers, and eliminating them as they overcentralize. Kyogre, Groudon, Palkia, Dialga, and Rayquaza would be autobanned, and maybe Deoxys-e, as their usages are already above the threshold. I'm not sure if that changes the...

Suppose I wanted to test a bunch of Uber pokemon at once. I don't think the tiering of a particular grouping of Ubers is still justified, and that they could balance eachother's usage out in the OU tier (Latias, Latios, Shaymin-S, Deoxys-D, Deoxys-S, Garchomp, Salamence, Ho-oh, Manaphy, Wynaut)...

If I burn myself with a burn orb, will my syncronize ability pass the burn to the opponent? I can think of a lot of fun things I can do with Mew if I can burn like that. Edit: I don't think I can, but I just came up with a ton of fun psycho shift ideas. Edit2: Spite 252HP/124SpD/120Def...

I pulled this out of a Latias ban discussion: "Actually it does, at least more so than generic "I think this pokemon is broke" statements that Smogon seems to be running off of. Latias being banned raises a huge question to me and that's WHY is something that's legitimately and easily...

Bolded is a blatant lie. The best (no longer Shoddy) players I know always run Garchomp. They didn't get over it; they gave up on Shoddy. There are some truely remarkable pokemon players on smashboards that you won't see around here much, but they still use the service for tournaments with...

Actually, it is in practice a one-way arguement. The pro-ban side is already active and recognizes the current metagame as legitimate while not content with every aspect of it. The anti-ban side will often refuse to recognize a new metagame as legitimate and stay with the old, more traditional...

Because people like me are convinced Salamence is OU, and refuse to recognize a standard metagame where Salamence is banned. We also refuse to recognize a standard metagame if Kyogre and Mewtwo are in it, which is why Ubers is the least popular tier in shoddy. If it was just one pokemon, I...

Thanks! I don't mind needing to update two peer edit threads. The analysis would be too long if they weren't seperated. Also, I love that trick room dialga you're working on. It's a great safety net for when I mispredict, and makes a great revenge killer when trick room remains in play, as...

I want an AU tier. A place where no one can complain about my Tyranitar/Metagross/Garchomp/Salamence/Latios/Wobbuffet (if it's allowed) team without anyone complaining and without having to worry about bans. I vote for AU tier (I should point out that I have not regretted my decision to...

When I call it the most dangerous lead in Ubers, I mean it. OU leads are built differently, and Ubers tends to be very vulnerable to things like spore and trick room. You shouldn't have any problems wrecking some stuff in ubers. Unfortunately, I found out first hand that dragon rage off of...

As someone with a smeargle on this page, I can think of a few things it's weak to. Smeargle hates flich (Jirachi) and fake out leads. Priority users that are slower than it (metagross, scizor) can, but probably won't, cause it problems. Lum berry leads aren't terrified of spore and can respond...

Yeah, that would definitely do my wobbuffet in. Although I have to ask, why do you differ from your own set?

Nice, thanks for the info! As a Wobbuffet user, I am curious as to whether Wobbuffet can be two-hit KO'd by a singly boosted surf, as if it's a three hit KO, I can safely encore the manaphy into mirror coat. If it's a two hit KO, then encore has quite a few risks attached. Other than that...

I found a guide to bans that most video game communities use. http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/what-should-be-banned.html

Fair point about wobbuffet and even Mewtwo. But I am curious about Palkia and Dialga; they both seem to wall this set pretty well and Dialga has some powerful physical STAB. Yet neither are mentioned in the analysis as a weakness of this set. Mind you, I like Mewtwo, Wobbuffet, and Dialga a...

That's true, but the logic you use, that stealth rock + LO are necessary to KO zapdos, suicune, etc. assumes a super effective hit. Do you have any pokemon in mind that can be 2hKO'd with Life orb but become a 3hKO with expert belt? If you're still walled by your counters with Life Orb, it...