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Ok so maybe I'm missing something about Gholdengo but I can't see the logic in banning it. Yes Good as Gold is an amazing ability but it's power is somewhat neutered on Gholdengo. It's slow enough that thunderwave isn't hugely impactful, it's already immune to toxic and I'd argue it doesn't have...

I haven't played OU in a few months and since I last played Rillaboom and Washtom have exploded. Apparently bulky Rillaboom is a thing now? What stat spreads do either of these run. Particularly trying to work out what speed tiers I should be trying to hit

I agree with the general sentiment about not voting for banned mons. In particular Magearna and CInderace. However I think Kyurem deserved to be an exception as it wasn't overwhelming for a huge part of its time in OU. This separates it from Cinderace and co who were never truly balanced (as the...

Ferrothorn

Ferrothrorn

Heatran

Should be obvious. Kyurem

If it's not Kyurem I will lose it

Kyurem

Dragapult

Clefable

Whilst I've only played DLC-2 meta I've tried to consider what those have said about the pre-Tundra meta in my list. 1. :Clefable:So I'm entirely basing this off of the opinions of people who say how defining it was pre-Tundra. If it's been this consistent across the generation, living with the...

Well it's a super interesting point. I hadn't thought about just how defining they've been. Obviously freeze dry and HDB has boosted them hugely. Freeze dry feels like an excellent evolution on the classic bolt beam whilst HDB has given a new consistency and ease of use to the ice types. But it...

Ooo I have a list of reasons :landorus-therian: :corviknight: :Garchomp: :Buzzwole: :Kartana: :Urshifu: And I could probably keep going. It's outclassed as a physical sweeper, has bad defensive typing for the meta and struggles against common defensive and offensive mons right now. It might...

Ok question about the next gen of OU. There are many things have had complex bans or debate before being inevitably banned each generation. Things like arena trap, shadow tag and baton pass are continuously problematic and have been blanket banned this generation. Assuming these continuously...

Ahhh thanks for changing the discussion on the OU metagame thread. I really was considering asking a mod to blacklist QC/QD discussion.

Ok whilst I am fully aware that this post is just adding to the mess in the thread I have to ask. What is the policy regarding an individual consistently making poor and somewhat rage-bait posts? If someone is consistently making frustrating posts (that are frankly kind of spam) that get deleted...

Multiple interesting parts to this. First off, your point about Victini and Strike/Bolt. The one situation I do see them having any use is on a Urshifu hoping to eat a v create. I often find myself swapping out to avoid specifically that. I feel like any pivot mon can benefit from taunt. And...

I hadn't considered how it freed up space for other rain threats like Volcanion. I do often run into problems of raw power and opposing weather. Volcanion is much more difficult to swap in on for opposing weather setters whilst also operating very well without rain. The one note I have to give...

Thundurus T has one major glaring weakness next to Zapdos, particularly on rain. No hurricane. Zapdos thunder + weather ball is nice but is only made truly perfect when you add hurricane to hit neutral targets such as ferrothorn. It also means you don't need weather ball to do decent damage on...