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  1. Metagame SS Monotype Metagame Discussion [Crown Tundra]

    What about lets say being an alternative to Ferrothorn? Same Water resist, can soak up Fire hits better for the team in general, but has a Ground/Electric weakness instead. Also, can act as a Stealth Rocker, also gets Knock Off. Can also fish for Scald burns, or run Toxic. Also has Roar to act...
  2. Metagame SS Monotype Metagame Discussion [Crown Tundra]

    I wonder how Empoleon will fare on Steel. It's one of my favourite starters but Steel's core just feels so important that it feels hard to give up any for Empoleon
  3. Metagame SS Monotype Metagame Discussion [Crown Tundra]

    For me the thing about Melmetal compared to many other recently banned mons is that it isn't as oppressive. Sure it does well to synergize with the Steel immunity core but being how slow it is it's a matter of time before it's taken down. Most of the time even after taking down a mon (like for...
  4. Metagame SS Monotype Metagame Discussion [Crown Tundra]

    But doesn't that apply for a lot of matches as well in general and not just Melmetal? 1 wrong predict opponents can set up once or twice. For example, +2 Hydreigon after Nasty Plot OHKOs Melmetal with Flamethrower, 2HKOs Corviknight/Celeesteela, OHKO Excadril, OHKO Ferrothorn, chance to OHKO...
  5. Metagame SS Monotype Metagame Discussion [Crown Tundra]

    I thought it was only just me, if all the Calcs are based on CB then shouldn't it be more about doing the right prediction. Literally majority of the calcs are based of Super Effective hits of course they are going to OHKO/2KHO.
  6. Metagame SS Monotype Metagame Discussion [Crown Tundra]

    If anything, I feel Flying core is on par or maybe even better than Steel. Ice weakness? Corviknight/Celesteela/SkarmoryMantine. Electric weakness? Landorus-T/Thundurus/Thundurus-T. Rock weakness? The Steel Trio/Zapdos-G. Those I mentioned all make super effective hits neutral or immune. Not...
  7. Metagame SS Monotype Metagame Discussion [Crown Tundra]

    Might seem like a dumb question but Melmetal isn't even S/A rank on the viability ranking. If it was so oppressing shouldn't it be at least A?
  8. Metagame SS Monotype Metagame Discussion [Crown Tundra]

    The last part about Melmetal, it is literally why I use it because it can handle some of Steel's most threatening mons. But I have to use an Assault Vest variant to be able to and come in at full HP. One of my biggest threats playing Steel are Nidoking/Moltres-G/Hydreigon/Thundurus-T all which...
  9. Metagame SS Monotype Metagame Discussion [Crown Tundra]

    This mon is literally why I use an Assault Vest Melmetal, so that I can tank an Earth Power and OHKO. Literally all my other Steel types get either OHKO'ed or 2HKO'ed, and most of them are slower than Nidoking unless it's a Excadril (a lot of times scarfed so choice locked walled by Amoonguss...
  10. Metagame SS Monotype Metagame Discussion [Crown Tundra]

    The thing about Steel is that it has an amazing immunity core, but eventually it is all about really predicting, and there is a lot of 50/50 that can go wrong. Like If I'm facing a Urshifu - R, do I go to Ferrothorn predicting Banded Surging Strikes, or Aegislash predicting Banded Close...
  11. Metagame SS Monotype Metagame Discussion [Crown Tundra]

    I suppose in this case it's more of like Skarmory replacing Ferrothorn as the role of a Physical Wall and also Spikes Setter? Also, what do you think of Calm Mind Jirachi? Calm Mind + Psychic + Thunder/Thunderbolt is probably a must, but the 4th option? Hard to choose between Energy Ball (helps...
  12. Metagame SS Monotype Metagame Discussion [Crown Tundra]

    That's the thing I face most about Steel when trying to build my own team, it boils down to Heatran+Aegislash+Ferrothorn+Excadril. The only mon that is variable is which of the 3 Flying/Steel I want, and my 6th mon. Thing about Jirachi is that it works wonders against some teams, like having...
  13. Metagame SS Monotype Metagame Discussion [Crown Tundra]

    I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask. Since you mentioned about Steel I have a few questions which maybe you can help. I've used the sample team and also tried to make my own team with slight variations to the sample team. A lot of time, if not most of the time it boils down to...
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