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  1. New and 'creative' moveset/EV spread thread Mk. 5

    sorry i think you misunderstand, i was referring to the substitue + thunderwave set when i said "standard" jirachi can beat flygon behind a sub with ice punch, which isn't even listed as an option you also make it sound like dp will always miss, its 50/50 so you could argue either way. if...
  2. New and 'creative' moveset/EV spread thread Mk. 5

    the same argument also applies to iron head as hippodon and even bulky water types like suicune and swampert can tank hits all day long. and the common steels in ou are brozong, empoleon, forretress, heatran, jirachi, magnezone, metagross, scizor and skarmory. vs bronzong it usually has...
  3. New and 'creative' moveset/EV spread thread Mk. 5

    i totally agree with everything you've just said but this jirachi was meant to cripple the opponents team and not actually meant to sweep. heatran is actually your friend since kingdra and gyarados likes switching in on it and setting up. you could also try to dp instead of tw behind a sub, if...
  4. New and 'creative' moveset/EV spread thread Mk. 5

    now that i think about it the extra hit points might prove more useful when going against gyarados so i think your first ev spread is good enough
  5. New and 'creative' moveset/EV spread thread Mk. 5

    is that set meant to be used as a lead? i think maximizing spdef. is more important since tyrannitar will die to fighting attacks anyways i.e. machamps dynamic punch, infernapes close combat and scizors bullet punch. Also, most of the things you want to trap with pursuit are special based like...
  6. New and 'creative' moveset/EV spread thread Mk. 5

    I've got a new jirachi set that i've been using on shoddy for a while now. It works wonders and i've decided to register just to post this set. Jirachi @ Leftovers Ability: Serene Grace EVs 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe Jolly nature(+Spe, -SpA) -Substitute -Thunder Wave -Dynamic Punch/Drain Punch...
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