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2025 tier list update: No changes. Everything I said here continues to be perfectly accurate, no surprises here. My ability to reach top 20 on the ladder without Snorlax continues to not be a nothingburger accomplishment. If you're reading this post, then statistically, my accomplishments prove...

I wouldn't go that far. You do absolutely need a plan for Snorlax, because it's a very powerful and immediate threat, especially if you don't have one of your own. My only point of contention (that was ridiculed, and now suddenly people are claiming it's always been believed, which is absolutely...

FYI, I didn't just hit 1500, I reached top 20 on the ladder without using Snorlax (ImJustSamu is highlighted because I DM'd this to him after he told me I'd never surpass him, which I was of course able to do with the greatest of ease). I didn't even use Cloyster. I ran Gar/Mie/Zam/Don and made...

Stop being wrong about the children's video game, and I won't have to

Well, tell that to Amaranth and everyone who raked me over the fucking coals for DARING to suggest that you could build a tournament-winningly good team without Snorlax. In fact, don't just tell them that—harass them with it for eternity, because that is what they deserve.

I just don't understand how anyone could rank Chansey this low when spreading status is pretty much THE win condition of the meta, and Chansey is THE #1 status absorber in the game. Going without Chansey puts your whole team in danger of status, since nothing else can tolerate getting paralyzed...

Eeveeto would disagree with you + Chansey is the most necessary. She is the ultimate special wall and status absorber. Her role is indispensable. Tauros is also indispensable, but if indispensability can be expressed in degrees, Chansey is more indispensable. Snorlax is not indispensable.

Considering the entire reason this "Ladder Jank" thread even exists is because I dared to post "Snorlax is the least necessary of the big 3" in the VR thread, which made the regulars clutch their pearls in shock and terror? No, I do not think you have known that "for a while," or at least not...

Imagine my complete lack of surprise that Laxless teams have proven to be perfectly functional in both ladder and RBY Cup this year. No—the only surprising thing is how long it took you fucking people to realize it when I've been saying this shit (with hard evidence and perfectly reasonable...

2024 update: Still no changes. The tier list I created back in 2022 is still perfectly accurate.

End of 2023 (non)update on my Ladder VR: No changes necessary. This is still perfectly accurate.

I have an update for this ladder tier list—but it's not an "update" in the sense that I'm changing any of my stated opinions or tier placements. I'm actually just here to reaffirm that everything I posted here is still 100% accurate for ladder play. In fact, the more I learn about the game, the...

Hey! Did you ever figure out that Jolteon is weak to Ground-type moves like Earthquake?

Recently reached 1500 elo with a team that doesn't use Snorlax, so I think I have a unique perspective on this. (Proof: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen1ou-1671958287) S: :chansey::tauros: A: :snorlax::exeggutor: B: :alakazam::starmie: C1: :rhydon::zapdos::jynx::cloyster...