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  1. vayu

    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    most BP battles are literally decided on the team preview.
  2. vayu

    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    The point isn' that BP isn't unbeatable. Specific anecdotes against mediocre players using BP isn't what is important. Every team has weakness, but they can be worked around, for BP, most of the teams that are viable against the standard ladder, cannot overcome a BP team through superior...
  3. vayu

    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    In the heat of the debate you are specifically choosing multiple BP counters in your team. The point isn' that BP isn't unbeatable. The subset of viable teams against normal opponents, that also don't auto lose to BP teams is very restricted. That is the end all of the debate. Either way...
  4. vayu

    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    10 If i ever want to dabble with BP is because i don't want the stress of playing with skill or not, as matches are decided the moment you look at the team previews. Maybe you have 1-2 50/50 choices against certain teams, or you are hard countered from the get go, but other than that it's is a...
  5. vayu

    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    A BP player is not stupid, if you do indeed have one of those threats, you can sack the least important member of your chain based on team previews and sash smeargle your only win condition. Having several bp counters is generally bad teambuilding against everything else.
  6. vayu

    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    Obviously if you know your going to face a bp team you can hard counter it, but for laddering in general, you are facing huge restrictions to make teams that don't auto lose on the team preview. I also do not see how you can say that bp relies on prediction when it is realy a set of 100%...
  7. vayu

    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    It is uncompetitive merely because you must have one of half a dozen pokes that somewhat autowins you the game at the team preview, or you autolose the game at the team preview, rarely is their any in-between. Playing as a BP player means that w/l depends on what teams you face, not really how...
  8. vayu

    Baton Pass - its role in the metagame and possible solutions to nerf full Baton Pass chains

    i believe that a complex ban where no more than 3 pokemon can have baton pass in one team is a good solution Is Baton Pass (with specific reference to full Baton Pass teams) a problem for the development of the metagame? Yes, matches that are practically 100% decided at the team previews are...
  9. vayu

    The decision to base UU off of 1760 stats

    is there a rough glicko/elo to percentiles list out there?
  10. vayu

    Other Current Metagame trends

    doesnt quite work like that, no one cares about the meta in bronze league in sc2 or LoL, same goes for the low ladder on PS. The only meta that matters is the top 1%
  11. vayu

    SwagPlay, evaluating potential bans (basic definition of "uncompetitive" in OP)

    http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-91893757 http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-91888839 Sure you have a slightly higher chance of failing with swagster than succeeding but no amount of skill easily get you out of a hole should u happen to hit yourself twice in a row Prankster + swagger has...
  12. vayu

    Aegislash

    Granted I pretty much never saw an SD aegis since the very beginning of pokebankbeta since it was more or less entirely replaced by a shadow ball nuker in the higher ladders. Problem is, anything you would consider switching into a mixed aegis( buzz, megasaur, sdef hippo, etc) still hard trolls...
  13. vayu

    Aegislash

    Why is the SD set still relavant?
  14. vayu

    Pokémon Venusaur

    genesect cannot damage megasuar at all
  15. vayu

    Entei Testing (2507+) Want Suggestions

    The Megaswap seems like a good idea, though something still has to set up rocks though its its not the biggest priority for this team. To be fair, you could replace entei with a spec keldeo or something and the team would likely achieve the same results. While the novelty is nice, it needs a...
  16. vayu

    Entei Testing (2507+) Want Suggestions

    Pretty much entei got sacred fire i wanted to use him. This is my first RMT so bear with me. this team was used on acc's: aayuu, and vayuu, you can go /rank if you wish my alt aayuu currently sits at 2507 at 22-7 for the latter, my conversation acc had 1-3 starting shinenegans from fooling...
  17. vayu

    Pokémon Entei

    got to 2.5k pretty quickly on a alt, lots of games hinge on the bulldoze/heatran prediction. I believe its fringe ou worthy at least.
  18. vayu

    Pokémon Lucario

    If you do this a few times you'll be down 2-3 mons while only tickling a rotom, relying a scarfer to only check luc is asking for trouble.
  19. vayu

    Pokémon Lucario

    Only relying on checks ( not that you can counter this thing without making some very uncertain assumptions) is dangerous at best. It hard to say really, scarfers took quite a big hit this gen without any direct nerfs. The only one i would comfortable using is genesect and you risk far too much...
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