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Agree with a lot of these points. I think the council/high levels player often leave behind newer/mid tier players trying to improve. The meta is not friendly to anyone but experienced players right now or people who heavily lean into HO/offense. There are so many threats it feels very difficult...

Guys, for the past 4 weeks this forum has discussed how broken rain is. We finally ban the Pokémon that abuses rain like no other and we are now making up priority moves that Breloom and Scizor don’t have to try and justify bringing another infamous rain abuser back to OU?

Thanks for the reply. That definitely makes sense. I guess my logic was 4 of the pokemon Finchinator mentioned in his “potentially problematic” post were weather based. I guess my logic is with Tera+proto weather isn’t really comparable to previous generations. I figured that the weather rock...

Yeah I don’t want to speculate too much, the meta definitely needs it reset. I’ve just noticed weather, and the Pokémon that benefit from it, has been problematic multiple times through out the meta.

I asked this in the metagame thread but didn’t get many replies. Have the weather rocks has not been seriously considered to be banned in some way? I think that with rain gone, sun’s dominance will become clear again. The combination of Tera+weather+the new tools this gen has give mons (proto...

Yeah I am just very very doubtful broken things get banned after the Kyurem suspect. CTC or some other high level player will make a long post about how everyone but the top 25 players are garbage and should just learn to play around a threat lol. Which is maybe fair, but I think a weather rock...

Can someone explain to me why the weather rocks/weather has not been seriously considered to be banned in some way? Sun and rain have been broken multiple times this generation, especially with the introduction of protosynthesis and it’s power is exacerbated by Tera. I have a feeling once...

I think the meta is diverse for the playstyles it heavily favors. There’s a lot of ways to build offense right now, and I’ve seen some interesting stall teams. Balance and BO only have narrow builds available because of threat saturation.

Big if true. You’re really on the cutting edge here.

If you count UU as “near the OU” threshold then it’s where it belongs. There are too many good dark types in the tier right now. Knock is nice but it’s generally outclassed by Ting Lu on the SpD side. It also doesn’t benefit from Tera at all as it loses its SpD boost and gets chipped. Really...

thanks I appreciate you team building posts. This meta is extremely unwelcoming to mid level players. It feels like sort of “the good get better, everyone else gets worse”

how do these teams deal with set up sweepers? I find that even Skarm takes 40% from Gambit on switch in. HO gives me a huge amount of trouble when I play balance

Is it possible to build balance right now? I saw Finch say spike stack balance was at it worst. Will that change after Arch is gone or are there just too many strong pokemon to make it worthwhile?