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How does getting surf/grass spots work exactly? Do you just use a repel, and then move around and hope for a whirlpool to appear before the frame advances after 128 steps or less?

Are gift Pokemon Standard Seed or PIDRNG? Gonna get that fossil turtle.

Can the gift Eevee still be shiny? And the gift turtle/archeopteryx too? And are there NPCs that make getting a shiny really difficult in any of these buildings?

My bad, but thanks. Sigh... my first Celebi took me forever, I'm not feeling up to going through all that again...

I haven't touched Diamond in ages, but I still have a Celebi to be picked up from the delivery bro. Last I remember for GenIV Wondercards, you had to keep on resetting until you got the nature you wanted by pure chance. Is it still like this, or can the nature of a Wondercard Poke be calculated...

Do I need to know my ID/SID to get shiny Pokes? And if it helps a lot or is necessary, what's the easiest way to find out either of those things?

So you empty the room, save, then you RNG when in the groto? And that generates what you want?

Oh, so you CAN RNG the IV and nature upon encounter; cool. How hard is it to RNG the species you want? Also, is the gift Evee RNG-able, or do the CPUs screw you up?

Wait, for Hidden Groto the IVs and Pokemon are set ahead of time so you can't RNG them? Then what is the point of RNGing in the Hidden Groto at all?

Wow, I didn't even know this. Being in a different fraction of your target second can offset Timer0s or something? Will keep in mind for the future.

Cool, haven't played around with it much so I wouldn't know yet. Still curious if keeping track of turns, and letting repels keep track of steps would work though.

Using repels continuously won't get you exact steps? I was hoping if a shiny is on a PID frame of 1000+ I could just let super repels do the counting for me until the final stretch? (Or does turning and moving at the same time count as 4 instead of 2, thus forcing me to keep track of how...

Ah, forgot shininess is a PIDRNG thing. When you say about 2, are you saying about because of your memory, or because each step isn't always a set number? Because if each step is not a set number, then that method is all luck based. Also, does turning count as a step/advance, or can you turn as...

What exactly is a shiny frame? Is it the exact same thing as the "walk 128 steps", because for frame it says 23, but for shiny it says 76 on one of the searches I did. Also, can you repel while walking the steps without messing anything up? I might for a shiny Volcarona if I feel up to it...

Just that it took me 7 hours to get nothing the proper way, and 35 minutes to get 2 things my half-assed luck way (no sarcasm or exaggeration, this pretty much is an accurate description of what happened). I won't argue that it's better, but if you suck as horridly as I apparently do and lost...

That's why you calibrate per save and per seed once to three times ahead of time to know the general frame advancements of the NPCs. I just bred another Pokemon, took me 20 minutes. Took me over 7 goddamn hours of not getting my first one with the other method - now THAT felt like sheer dumb...

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW HEEEEEEEEEEELLS YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES. I think I got my Nidoran! Need to level it up to confirm IVs, but it's a boy, it has Hustle, and he's a Timid little sucker; this should be mah crown prince! If I've been trolled this is going to break my pokeheart. EDIT: I GOT IT...

Bearsfan doesn't go into "Ok, here is pitch 10, 20 30... 90" That's what would be super nice for me. I don't know what I searched, I don't save them. Timer0s tend to stay between two values for the most part, so don't let that sway you. Just make sure you know it IS timer0 and not you missing...

BW2 has apparently, what, 12 Timer0s that it is capable of shifting between? Way more than BW1. And while it tends to go back and forth between only 2 (at least it did with me), it does occasionally stray farther. Mix that with the occasional mistiming at the title screen, or chatot screw-ups if...

Picking up from the daycare man counts as 1 frame advancement too right? Well damn, my most recent attempt I heard the low low low high and then picked it up, and did indeed miss my mark by one frame. Geez, the three low low low in a row right before my frame does not help me much at all. But...