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  1. OU Should Snorlax count as Uber in GSC?

    I'm sure a lot of offensive options will open up without Snorlax (who shut them down offensively and defensively). Stalls are not the enemy. This seems to be the common misconception about GSC. And I guess I haven't done too much to propagate any thoughts that would dismiss that idea. But the...
  2. I redid the GSC tiers

    If anyone can clarify: Some time in my absence (end of '04 to about beginning of '06), both Celebi and HP legends were banned (along with DT and the other luck items, but that's irrelevant). My question is: which came first?
  3. I redid the GSC tiers

    Thunderpunch. I don't understand that move. Anyway, it's not important. Typhlosion isn't UU. Kanga should probably have BS for most sets. Paraing Miltank means it takes a +1 everytime. DE should always be considered before Return tbh. I don't mind Aero being in either. Try asking? UU...
  4. I redid the GSC tiers

    For years, I've given you nothing but respect in the past in every regard. And just for the record, I didn't call you stupid, I called your ideas stupid. This is how I prefer to be on the interweb anyway. Deadpan doesn't convey well through text, nor sarcasm. But point taken. Apologies. Not...
  5. I redid the GSC tiers

    And the problem is? It wouldn't be accurate? Wrong. For all intents and purposes, it'd be very accurate because these "select few people" are a very good representation of what's best combined with what's most current. Even if it wasn't, then it could still be changed. That's the point. We're...
  6. I redid the GSC tiers

    It bugs me when these newer players come out with arguments like "raw data". What? Fuck that. I don't need an in-depth statistical analysis of inferior players and what they use to tell me what's overpowered and what's not. Plus, there would probably be a gross ratio of bad players to good...
  7. I redid the GSC tiers

    Touching back on a few arguments made earlier in this topic: Yes, I would say that today. "Isn't as profound" is a comparative phrase, such as in "your accomplishment 'isn't as profound' as if a real UU defeating standards". Would you disagree with that statement? I doubt it. Players like...
  8. I redid the GSC tiers

    There were definitely less than a handful of "intelligent" GSC players, they were all followers. I'd cap that number at 2-3 max. GSC's "prime" was pathetic. These are all pretty simple answers IF we had a definitive definition for what a uber is. And most of those resisting change are doing it...
  9. I redid the GSC tiers

    Wait, so you're still sticking with 3 tiers, but instead of a 2/3 being usable (OU/UU, with BL a mess), you end up with essentially 1 usable tier (OU). UU is a mess, and what the hell is NU? Why would you have one if you don't aim to make a balanced UU tier? And let's be fair, your list is very...
  10. Gen 1 OU for a reason.

    Cool, time to explain some elementary statistics to some very egotistical minds. Lucky for us, we have nice values to work with. Starmie hits Tauros for between 163 ~ 192, with an average of 177.5, which is 50.3%. Round down to 50% (which is AGAINST starmie btw) for the sake of insanity. 50% is...
  11. I redid the GSC tiers

    I disagree. You have OU and UU, what purpose does that serve? Why not just eliminate UU as well? There's ubers and "others", the banned and the not banned. That would make more sense wouldn't it? Why does it matter to a "standard" player the popularity of pokemon? This brings me to my next...
  12. I redid the GSC tiers

    If that's true, why make changes? Beating a standard with a team of BL/UU is great. But there's a clear-cut advantage for BL over UU, just like OU over BL. Using a team of BL against UU is about as fair and as "accomplishing" as standards beating BL/UU. Therefore, in the context of a "UU...
  13. I redid the GSC tiers

    I retract some of my choices (Chansey, Venusaur) seeing as they won't limit the use of UUs as much as the others. // Flareon wouldn't be used, nor Arcanine/Magmar given the option of Typhlosion. Without typhlosion, Arcanine/Magmar probably shares the spot. Flareon was a bad example. // Octillery...
  14. I redid the GSC tiers

    A tier list based strictly on useage should only be split up into OU and UU. So I'm assuming "power" holds significant weight in your decision. Stuff like Ampharos, Clefable, and Typhlosion eliminate a good portion of useable pokemon in a UU meta. If the "true" UU pokemon are ever going to see...
  15. Gen 2 Something that works. Maybe. Haven't tried.

    Alakazam does NOT take special hits at all. Both Zapdos and Raikou hit in the neighborhood of 50% with either attack, and threatens to KO with Thunder. Considering these two are the only true special attackers in GSC, that just about sums the list. To humor you, let's continue. Starmie does...
  16. Gen 2 Something that works. Maybe. Haven't tried.

    I'm the only one here who bashes it. havoc here is one of the biggest advocaters of zam. Skarmory/Steelix/Forretress/Starmie/Suicune/Egg are all optional switches to alakazam, either forcing it out, statusing it, or to "reset encore". What exactly does Alakazam switch in on anyway? Nothing...
  17. Ask a simple question, get a simple answer. (RoA Version + resource links)

    Yes. Suicune/Raikou makes for one of the most formidable one-two punches in GSC. As far as physical walls go, Forretress is BETTER than Skarmory, except it's lack of phazing abilities kinda hinder it. However, you still have Reflect to work with. And Blissey's worthless on stall teams. Any and...
  18. OU As promised, thisisBob. Think of it as my guide part 2 (long)

    http://www.oocities.com/thelegendarydogs/downloads/downloads.htm The RMT program is definitely awesome. Albeit, the "effectiveness" tab is the only thing that's truly imperative, the rest of the program makes you think twice about your team. I'm in the process of asking the publisher for the...
  19. Gen 2 Something that works. Maybe. Haven't tried.

    Unless Raikou STs, not even he can switch into Zapdos/Raikou constantly, especially if it can't afford being asleep (say a looming Joltwak or something). And should you have spikes, some prediction goes a LONG WAY in dealing with the Raikou/Snorlax combo. 2-3 predictions is all it takes to swing...
  20. Gen 2 BellyZard Team

    A stall team is easier to play and will probably give you consistent wins if you want to go that route.
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