20 hours of work brings you this RMT

Ninjarabian

Now nearly 25 hours brings you this!

So after my last RMT was phail, I started working on this one. After all the calculations, searches, etc. I found that it had taken me nearly 20 hours. So here's to hoping it was worth my time!
The Team​

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Twinkle @ Expert Belt
Timid
Natural Cure
252 SpA/252 Spe/6 HP

Thunder Bolt
Ice Beam
Psychic
Surf

A fairly decent lead defeater. If Gyarados, T-bolt, if Gengar, non scarf, OHKO with Psychic, if it's scarfed, get sleeped and switch out, healing with natural cure. If Ninjask, switch out to Weavile for the Ice Shard OHKO. Bronzong is a little bit of a problem, as Starmie can only do about 25% health, but it could do that damage and then absorb the hypnosis.


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Manimal @ Life Orb
Jolly
Pressure
252 Atk/216 Spe/40 HP

Ice Shard
Swords Dance
Brick Break
Night Slash

Your everyday Weavile. I chose the Swords Dance set, but even if he doesn't get a Swords Dance off, he loses very little coverage from the other option of attacking. Mostly used for killing Dragons, Blissey, and everything else:naughty:.


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Bubbles @ Choice Scarf
Mild
Blaze
252 SpA/36 Atk/220 Spe

Overheat
Grass Knot
Hidden Power [Ice]
Close Combat

So I know it looks kinda funky, an Infernape with a Choice Scarf. I think it's my only way to even revenge kill a scarfchomp, other than adding choice Band to my Weavile. Will try this for a while, but I'm always open to suggestions.

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Ho Punch @ Toxic Orb
Adamant
Poison Heal
44 HP/252 Atk/212 Spe

Focus Punch
Spore
Substitute
Seed Bomb

Kind of a mix between the Sub-seed and Spore Punch sets. Hopefully it will work. If anyone knows that it won't please tell me. Will (hopefully) be my counter for Swampert.

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Immune @ Bright Powder
Impish
Sand Veil
252 HP/68 Atk/188 Def

Earth Quake
Ice Fang
Stealth Rock
Roost

My Physical Tank. Ice Fang deals with the Dragons, Stealth Rock is for being awesome, and Earthquake does what it can with STAB. Roost is, of course, for recovery.


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Mallard @ Leftovers
Bold
Levitate
252 HP/108 Def/148 SpD

Rest
Sleep Talk
Charge Beam
Ice Beam

My Special Tank, although it can take a physical hit too. Sleep Talk Charge until (hopefully) +6 and can deal with most things easily. Also, absorbs Status YAY.
The Weaknesses​
***2xWeaks/Weaks/Resists/2xResists/Immunities***​
Normal: 0/0/1/0/0
Fire: 0/2/1/0/0
Water: 0/2/1/0/0
Electric: 0/0/2/0/1
Grass: 0/0/2/0/0
Ice: 1/1/2/0/0
Fighting: 1/0/2/0/0
Poison: 0/1/1/0/0
Ground: 0/2/1/0/2
Flying: 1/1/1/0/0
Psychic: 0/2/1/0/1
Bug: 0/2/1/1/0
Rock: 0/1/1/0/0
Ghost: 0/1/1/0/0
Dragon: 0/0/0/0/0
Dark: 0/1/3/0/0
Steel: 0/1/2/0/0

**NOTE: this chart is only viable with Abilities included. CURRENTLY INCORRECT

Threat List
NOT RIGHT ATM​



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Garchomp: Cresselia or Gliscor could switch in, depending on which move was coming.
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Blissey: Weavile handles well, and probably Breloom if it was switched in at the right time. Also Infernape.​
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Gengar: Raikou kills all leading Gengars:pimp:. Weavile might beable to take non-leading ones. Not sure.
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Gyarados: Raikou takes all leads. Cresselia can counter.
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Tyranitar: Weavile and Breloom are all I got
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Lucario: Gliscor? Maybe? Cresselia can beat ones without Crunch... but that's never seen.
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Heatran: Gliscor should handle him well. If he doesn't then I don't really have a counter.
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Metagross: Gliscor might counter. Infernape can easily revenge kill without a switchout from the opponent.
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Salamence: If it's a specsmence I'll have to read the attack and switch in the corresponding pokemon. If it's a DDmence, I'll have to Iceshard it with Weavile.
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Bronzong: Infernape gets it easily. Raikou can somewhat deal with opening Bronzongs.
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Infernape: Gliscor is the closest thing to a counter I have o.0.
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Swampert: Specially put Breloom in for this gay
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Weavile: Umm... MAYBE Infernape?
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Skarmory: Infernape is "teh 1337 pwnage" of Skarmory.
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Forretress: See Skarmory
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Gliscor: Umm... I don't know... maybe Cresselia?
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Cresselia: Weavile.
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Starmie: Don't know that I have a counter... If I do someone tell me please :heart:
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Breloom: Was debating whether I should put a lum berry on Gliscor for this guy. Other than that... Cresselia could absorb the sleep.
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Heracross: Gliscor, deh
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Togekiss: Cresselia shrugs off the damage and sleep talks for SE.
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Celebi: Gliscor? Maybe? Infernape Revenge Kills if it's not a CM Celebi
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Hippowdon: Cresselia should beable to handle it.
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Azelf: Weavile if he can get it... maybe just revenge kill. Cresselia counters too I think.
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Dusknoir: Raikou should do decently well.
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Snorlax: Same as Blissey, only slightly easier.
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Jirachi: Infernape can handle it I think.
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Suicune: Yeah... Nothing good I think. Maybe Cresselia. Maybe Breloom.
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Vaporeon: Cresselia might beable to handle.
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Porygon Z: Nothing good. Infernape can revenge .
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Electrivire: Nothing can switch into Electivire -.-
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Machamp: Gliscor... I hope.
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Zapdos: Umm...
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Yanmega: Ice Shard is all I got.
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Ninjask: Ice Shard if I can, other than that I don't have much.
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Alakazam: Weavile off a psychic read. other than that Cresselia is all I got
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Aerodactyl: Hmm... Maybe Cresselia can handle
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Rhyperior: Gliscor is the closest I've got
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Tangrowth: Infernape should handle




Post you're comments, thoughts, questions, whatever.

Biggest Concern: 3 Bug Weaks!
 
I could see how roar would be helpful against bliss and all but other than that Raikou might jsut be too frail to carry it. You could try running a sub calm minder Raikou or jsut give it thunderwave. That way bliss can't do much to you and you can just set up some boosts. Another prblem is that everyone on your teM BUT mILOTIC CAN'T stand status conditions. You could try running a rest talk snorlax. That way you can absorb status and handle blissey just fine.
 
I like to keep Item Clause obeyed, it's just kinda my thing. And I'll try this Raikou out for a while first, and then go to Sub CM if I need to.
 
Raikou: Oh wow, so you managed to force Blissey out. Whoop-de-doo, now it'll just switch back in. And hey, while you're wasting time with Roar, it will just paralyze you.

HP Fire? In those 20 hours, I'm surprised you haven't realized that a STABed Thunderbolt does more damage than a supereffective Hidden Power.
 
You should definitely opt for Hidden Power Ice over Hidden Power Fire on Raikou. All of a sudden, you find yourself being able to take out Garchomp, Salamence, Dragonite, Gliscor etc. without losing out too much, as the only Steel-types you'll be damaging less are Forretress and Scizor. What's the point in forcing Blissey out if it can just come back and annoy you? Calm Mind would give you a better chance against Blissey, while Substitute over Shadow Ball will allow you to block status and snag some boosts against some special attackers.

I noticed you don't have a way of taking status reliably. On Milotic, I'd recommend replacing Recover with Rest and Ice Beam with Sleep Talk. You can still stop Gyarados that way (and your Defense is boosted by Marvel Scale while sleeping), and you don't lose out too badly since you have so many other ways of taking out Dragon-types and the like.
 
THanks for all the input dudes, and for the Roar thing, It's because I'm retarded.

as for all the other stuff, I'll look through it later, gtg for now
 
Swapped Milotic for a Sleep Talking Cresselia, which was pretty solid last time I used. If any other improvements can be made to the team please don't be afraid to post them
 
OK, I'm not really getting the point of the berries on Gliscor and Rhyperior. They aren't taking on bulky waters anyway, Leftovers would be the better choice. I guess you have the surprise factor, but.....

Your team might have issues with Heatran. Cress is the only thing that can take a hit, but she can't do much back. I guess that's the downside of removing Milotic. You kind of have an issue with Water/Grounds as well.

Your type chart is missing an ice weak, unless you don't count Rhyperior. Solid Rock drops it to 1.3x rather than 2x.
 
Your Rhyperior as is doesn't pose a real "threat" with Swords Dance. I'd personally replace Aerial Ace with SR on Gliscor and give Rhyperior Swords Dance over SR.
 
I might have to just swallow my pride and break the item clause.
Any suggestion on like swapping out Gliscor for a different wall or something? to fix the other problems

And the Ice Weak comes from Rhyperior, who only takes nuetral damage thanks to Solid Rock

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made changes
 
Shadow Ball may be neutral, but Thunderbolt will do about as much most of the time. HP Ice will give you much more milage, being able to revengekill Garchomp and all that. I'd also recommend Salac over Petaya, or rather, Leftovers over both.

Gliscor should just tank with Brightpowder or Leftovers, and not bother staying in on an Ice Beam to use Yache.

Put some speed on Rhyperior to outspace Hippowdon if you're gonna Swords Dance, otherwise you should try Substitute.

Calm Mind Celebi spells doom, and so does Ice Beam Tyranitar to be honest. Magmortar, Raikou and Rhyperior don't produce a lot of coverage and tend to be dead weight against a lot of common threats.
 
HP Ice isn't really realistic in game, but I suppose I could do it on Shoddy.

Forgot about Bright Powder, thanks!

I will probably replace rhyperior because of my problems with Water/Ground... I just got completely owned by a mudkipz

Any suggestions on replacing Rhyperior? Raikou kills Gengar and Gyrados, 2 of the most common leads, every time. And Magmortar is just kinda fun... I suppose he COULD be replaced...
 
If I were you I would invest in a spinner or at least a wish passer.

SR is in just about every battle and your weaville if it switches in will already be at a loss of 25% of it's health... whats that! Your opponent switched in a wall, and now you have to switch out?

Well since you most likely attacked on the switch you now only have 65% of your health left. When you come back in minus another 25%.

So your weaville is not going to last very long without wish/spin support... same with Infernape.
 
Kira said:
If I were you I would invest in a spinner or at least a wish passer.

SR is in just about every battle and your weaville if it switches in will already be at a loss of 25% of it's health... whats that! Your opponent switched in a wall, and now you have to switch out?

Well since you most likely attacked on the switch you now only have 65% of your health left. When you come back in minus another 25%.

So your weaville is not going to last very long without wish/spin support... same with Infernape.
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While that's a good input, and I thank you for it, what exactly am I supposed to switch out for a rapid spinner? Gliscor is physical wall I have, so I suppose I could try finding a good alternative for him.
 
Well I dont know who you would drop... but as long as your opponent has SR, and a counter to weaville/infernape they will be completely useless and will die after just a few switches... this is also assuming that the opponent is not attacking you on the switch.

Just test the team out, and figure out which pokemon is holding you back the most, or doing the least.
 
hmm... How about this... Maybe...

Forretress @ Macho Brace
252 Atk/ 84 spA/168 def
Stealth Rock
Rapid Spin
Gyro Ball
Hp [Ice]

Stealth Rock to replace Stealth Rock on Gliscor
Rapid spin due to suggestion.
Gyro Ball to pump out as much damage as possible
and HP Ice 2HKOs all OU dragons like 90% of the time.
 
Well I would not replace Gliscor unless you want Heracross, and SD Luke to rape you...

Personally I find Raikou too hard to ever set up.
 
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