RU RU Generations Playoffs: Round 1

Mavis

Banned deucer.
RU Generations Playoffs
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Welcome to the RU Generations Playoffs! The top 16 placing competitors from the previously hosted SM Cup, ORAS Cup, and BW Cup will be competing here to see who takes home the RU Generations trophy.​
Specific Rules:

  • Matches are to be played on PS!, preferably on the smogtours server.
  • All rounds will be a best of three, single elimination.
  • Game 1 will be played in SM, and after that, the format is chosen by the loser, either BW or ORAS.
  • Saving and posting replays is mandatory for this round.

Standard Rules and Clauses:

  • Species Clause: A player cannot have two Pokemon with the same PokeDex number on his team.
  • Sleep Clause: You cannot inflict sleep upon more than one member of the opposing team.
  • Evasion Clause: The moves Double Team and Minimize are banned.
  • OHKO Clause: The moves Horn Drill, Guillotine, Sheer Cold, and Fissure are banned.
  • Endless Battle Clause: Anything capable of intentionally creating an endless battle is banned.

General Tournament Rules:
Identity: I expect many battles to be completed under alts. This can be bad for tournament security, and thus I will make this clear: If I hear any whispers of identity theft (battling as someone you are not) or proxy battling (helping someone else battle through pm) I will not be pleased and I will take severe actions.
Scouting: Next, I do not want to hear anything about counterteaming, at all. Do not complain about it. I also don't want to hear about any blatant scouting. There is a difference between "[user] is known for using stall" and "let me follow [user] around all day to watch all his battles since I am his opponent". I expect a lot of the former and none of the latter. I give permission to all battlers to ask any person spectating their battle to leave if they do not want them watching. Everyone will have access to your replays from earlier rounds though.
Timer Clause: As for taking long between moves, if your opponent asks you to hurry up, please oblige. If you are doing a damage calc for a key turn that is one thing, but prolonging every move is suspicious and annoying. Don't do it. Furthermore, Battle Timeout is a rule for a reason. If you run out of time, you lose, simple as that. It does not matter what your opponent says. Do not battle if you think you will have to leave mid battle, and instead reschedule for a better time.
Disconnections: Finally, in the case of a disconnect, the decision is in the hands of the player who did not disconnect. The options are: redo the battle move for move, redo the battle with the same teams but different moves, or redo the battle with completely different teams. If the battle was without a doubt over, they may also take the win. Any suspicion that a disconnect was committed on purpose to redo a match may be appealed to me, and if I feel this happened there will be severe consequences, don't do it.

Scheduling:
Use VMs to schedule with your opponent to make it easier for me to track activity calls when needed. If you use other methods to contact your opponent outside of VMs, then post in this thread confirming you're in contact with your opponent; otherwise, it's not necessary. Extensions for those with time conflicts will only be given when proof is provided of scheduling with their opponent in the beginning of the round (first 2-3 days). Do not schedule last minute expecting to be compensated in case of timezone conflicts or be given an activity win over your opponent.

PAIRINGS
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1. eifo vs 16. Feliburn
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2. esche vs 15. Randomnick
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3. Xiri vs 14. Spl4sh
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4. Bouff vs 13. Real FV13
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5. Bebo vs 12. Luthier
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6. Pohjis vs 11. Raichy
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7. Cam vs 10. EviGaro
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8. Yggdrasil60 vs 9. Averardo
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Get games done by Sunday, March 15, 12:00 PM Gmt -6!
 
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bkpredicts no bias

(1) Eifo vs (16) Feliburn: yes, yes, I'm bolding against feli, first time in ages, I know. However, at least this time around, eifo has demonstrated these last few tours he's no slouch in any of RU's older generations, whereas the self-proclaimed "top 5 oras battler" fell flat on his face round 1 and failed to make a mark in BW. take his losses with a grain of salt as you will, but for once in my lifetime, my faith is in Feli's opponent rather than Feli himself.
(2) esche vs (15) Randomnick: esche is just the better player, plain and solid, and I see no reason why he shouldn't easily win this. Not taking anything away from Nick, but esche should have this one in the bag.
(3) Xiri vs (14) Spl4sh: similarly to above, Xiri should more or less be the better player here.
(4) Bouff vs (13) Real FV13: fv13 didn't get too terribly far in any one given tour, and I'm a fan of watching Bouff play in general, and think his playing skill and metagame knowledge should prove him the victor.
(5) Bebo vs (12) Luthier: letting a little bit of my personal bias slip into this one, as choosing between two friends when it comes to predicts is always a bit hard. That being said, I'm throwing seeding to the wind and going with my gut feeling that Luthier wins this one. The last time I covered him in playoffs, it was RU circuit playoffs, where he defied the odds and went all the way to the finals. Give me some good games.
(6) Pohjis vs (11) Raichy: Raichy's got a bit of an uphill battle to climb if he wants to unseat the two-time RU circuit winner, and perhaps the only reason Pohjis isn't higher on the seeding is because he got matched vs Evi r1 in SM Cup. Either way, this should be a dub for Pohjis.
(7) Cam vs (10) EviGaro: Similarly to Feli, you won't catch me bolding against Evi often. Her play rarely leaves room for easily exploitable weaknesses, and despite her lower seeding, I see no reason she doesn't win this. Cam is definitely good, but my faith still lies in the tier leader.
(8) Yggdrasil60 vs (9) Averardo: With the power of the mafia on his side, I think Ave is superior to Yggdrasil in ORAS and on even footing in SM. I'm not counting BW, since that tier throws skill fuckall out the window half the time.
 
Ok, for old times sake lets do some predicts and see how it goes.

eifo vs Feliburn

Do not let the seeding position confuse you on this one, this matchup is hell to predict properly. Eifo has been on literal fire this ru generations tour being very profficient on all cups but motivated Feliburn is a different version of himself capable of many things so it is really hard to surefire a winner here. I believe Eifo is favored on BW, even tho Feliburn does play BW pretty often, eifo has looked extremely clean on BW, and on ORAS Feliburn is favored due to his extensive experience and knowing what to pull off on this meta, SM is a tossup and I believe will be the decisive moment since whoever wins that take the whole series imo, both being pretty good at it means it is super hard to pinpoint a winner right here so we will see. Really damn great matchup for the start, Jesus. Will be an exciting one to catch live for sure.

esche vs Randomnick

This is a pretty great matchup too! From what I have seen from both players they are both pretty solid on SM all things considered and ORAS isnt too shabby from both and I have been seen Randomnick play ORAS pretty well. The clincher will be the BW game, which can always be a toss up mind you, but esche has more practice and have moved further into it so I believe he is slightly favored on this series given his consistent run in all the cups. No doubt Randomnick can pull off some cool stuff in BW with some brazilian help and give the surprise given how, again, the BW metagame is a big toss up where you can lose right on the spot by having the correct mon to get fucked over so we will have to see. Another neat series that should be an entertaining one.

Xiri vs Spl4sh

Cool one again! Spl4sh should have a solid advantage on BW given general performance and for beating some big names playing very solid, and Xiri is the ORAS cup champion so I have to favor him on that metagame. SM is the one that will decide the series and I believe whoever wins that will be the winner, Xiri has been pretty profficient in SM before with solid showcasing in previous RUPLs and generally solid builds and playing but Spl4sh knows his SM pretty well too so cant say it is going to be easy for Xiri to win that unless an abysmal matchup shows up for Spl4sh. Solid matchup too, 3/3 so far! Slight advantage to Xiri on this.

Bouff vs Real FV13

Not highlighting Bouff?! I have very objective reasons for this. I really like Bouff as a player but on the general concept of things I think Real FV13 is being rather underestimated in this matchup. No doubt that Bouff has an inmense advantage in SM given that he plays the meta and knows the deal about it very well and is just more profficient at it so RFV13 will have to patch this shortcoming somehow, and I think he can, but I would be lying to myself if the SM game isnt a mountain to climb for RFV13. ORAS and BW however... it gets interesting from here. Real FV13 plays ORAS RU very well from what I have seen, same from Bouff so I think that game will be pretty even, and for BW I think Real FV13 has a better handle of this broken meta as a whole giving his BW Cup run. Gonna favor Real FV13 a bit given previous showcases, but this is pretty even overall tbh. Very neat matchup too. 4/4.

Bebo vs Luthier

Peoples Champ Bebo vs LC Superstar Luthier. Now this is another complicated matchup to predict! ORAS I give Luthier the advantage given his ORAS RU Cup (even tho Bebo got haxed on it, sad) and I believe Bebo has the advantage on the BW department so this is pretty hard to pinpoint since from what I saw Luthier hasnt signed up for SM to do a comparison run in all cups and from what I remember of Luthier playing SM he was very solid all around. I think both being solid is one thing on SM but Bebo has more general meta knowledge to build his own stuff all things considered so I give him an slight advantage here over Luthier but if Luthier is provided with a good team and good advice against Bebo on the SM matchup this could easily go either way. Exciting matchup!

Pohjis vs Raichy

Let it be known, had both players during 2 RUPLs so I can testify how both are very damn good at the game. Pohjis BW Run is nothing short of impressive which shows the profficiency this guy has at lower tiers which is phenomenal, and Raichy isnt slouch on getting the hang of metagames very quick and at being very creative with the builds he has showcased. This matchup is very interesting since both players have different strengths to take into account. Pohjis is a perfect pilot, given it a plane and he will land it with 5 stars and no aircraft monitoring, if given a good team it is a pretty certified win but his builds can be very shaky pretty often, as shown on other tournaments while Raichy has that creative factor with the twists and builds he can generate, especially on BW, and playing is no slouch but certainly no Pohjis here so seeing how these 2 capitalize on their strengths is going to be very interesting. Pohjis is heavily favored on SM given previous showcases, ORAS is a toss up but I think Raichy can gain better support for this one than Pohjis, and BW is FAR closer than you think but Pohjis won BW Cup so, immediate favor for him. I think this is the most interesting matchup without looking like one, watch out for this one. Favoring Pohjis given the general balance.

Cam VS EviGaro

Cam certainly got the worse possible matchup in my eyes, but he is still gonna be a challenge for our prestigious RUTL for sure. EviGaro needs no introduction, she is an incredible player that can pull off somewhat outlandish but pretty effective builds on her main metagames, those being ORAS and SM, while BW isnt too shabby even though she may not be a fan of this meta as a whole (which is very understandable, seriously). Very uphill battle for Cam but this will come down to motivation. ORAS Cup was pretty impressive and I firmly believe he is more than capable to pull off a surprise on SM, and his BW isnt bad at all but again, and I will repeat very often, this metagame is a toss up and you can get moltres´d, sceptile´d, durant´d and choose your poison so it is hard to pinpoint unless you play this meta often or had good previous cup runs. Again, it comes all down to motivation. If EviGaro wants this, she can win all of this easily and I certainly favor her a lot on this assumption, but if Cam wants it more he can pull off this upset. We shall see.

Yggdrasil60 vs Averardo

Yggdrasil has been the most pleasant surprise of this tournament, gathering an 8th seed against a bunch of powerful names during different cups which is always great to watch. This guy has gotten a pretty difficult matchup that if he can overcome then I firmly believe he has a great chance of getting to the end honestly. Averardo is a phenomenal fighter that overall has a great package of knowledge for the 3 metagames at play here. Really good at SM, pretty convincing at ORAS seeing his previous cup run, and really solid at BW too given he has played that to incredible effect before. Averardo is heavily favored here given experience and general metagame knowledge so this is going to be an humongous test for Yggdrasil, we shall see if he can pull this off. Can be an interesting watch.

Best of luck everybody. Have fun. Cheers!
 
These games look super exciting, congrats & good luck to all playoff participants!

I'd love to see some of these games live, so one request: can participants post the time in the thread after scheduling the match? Tysm :)
 
ay i can do predicts for once

1) Eifo vs (16) Feliburn |
i think feli has a pretty clear advantage in oras and sm, especially oras. as long as feli brings solid teams i think he'll come out on top. bw is w/e; i'm not too high on feli in bw, but im also not too high on eifo in general (seeding aside). hopefully eifo proves me wrong and we get a great series

(2) esche vs (15) Randomnick |
i feel like randomnick is a name i've seen around for forever, but that's about it. this is the first time im seeing him play in a decently high level game, so i've gotta go with esche, regardless of consistency issues. best of luck to both, hopefully randomnick can show some high level gameplay

(3) Xiri vs (14) Spl4sh |
weaponized timezone is the clear favorite here imo just based off of raw skill level and experience. xiri has much better tour results, but don't get me wrong, spl4sh is pretty decent. i'm looking forward to this series

(4) Bouff vs (13) Real FV13
going with bouff, i guess? love bouff as a person, but i've never been high on his playing ability; he's often too afraid to pull the trigger, and he has trouble recognizing win cons early game. that being said, he will pull up with solid teams, and i think that he'll win because of that. i've never been impressed by real fv13, but once again, i hope he proves me wrong

(5) Bebo vs (12) Luthier |
definitely excited for this one. i think luthier has the advantage in raw skill, which is why i'm bolding him, but bebo is the better builder. this series will come down to if luthier gets/brings good teams or not. i have luthier taking sm, but oras and bw are toss ups

(6) Pohjis vs (11) Raichy |
pohjis is the better player, and i think he'll bring better teams. pretty clear cut, but hopefully raichy impresses

(7) Cam vs (10) EviGaro |
resident tug hero cam will be bested by resident tug villain evi. evi has the clear advantage in every tier, but im hoping for a fun series

(8) Yggdrasil60 vs (9) Averardo
in the most respectful way possible, i have no idea who yggdrasil60 is, so by default i have to go with ave. that said, best of luck to both
 
Contributive mainstay col49 back at it with piercing commentary (these look cool and I've been rather impressed by the development of newer or otherwise slightly below radar players in the tours leading up to this, and thought it would be neat to try to follow it a bit more avidly and provide what little commentary I can here). Hope to have enough info made public to try to catch a couple of these live!

1. eifo vs 16. Feliburn - I see both players at a similar median of play, with Feliburn for better or worse having a higher ceiling undercut by instinct-based plays that reflect a routine of stunting on the ladder (for the fans, of course). eifo has, by contrast, never struck me as a player with any inclination for flashy plays, but his self-sufficiency in the builder is a stand-out to me; from what I've observed at least, there seems to be no readily identifiable alt source to his past gen teams, which in an environment where basically 0 'modern' RU players are willing to invest time into BW is striking to me. This, coupled with a workman-like drive in preparation is to me what will (if anything) push him above and beyond in this matchup, which I see as coming down to the SM in most cases. Feliburn's play in ORAS feels more nuanced to me, whereas the BW from both has felt very much like going through the motions, at which point the advantage boils down to prep. Hoping to see Feliburn make use of Fire resists and no Chip Away Snorlaxes, as this is liable to be a cool series.

2. esche vs 15. Randomnick - An entirely unfettered esche is, to me, one of the most difficult players to prep for. Perhaps in saying this I am moreso projecting my own building deficiencies, but going into a tour game with something mercurially solid and moderately paced was my best assessment two Snake Drafts back and I feel that very little has changed in that now. Bearing all this is mind, Randomnick has struck me as a player with a good eye for teams and an adaptive attitude going into games that I like a lot. My rough guess for all this would be that Randomnick takes ORAS (where, love or hate the tier, is where free spirited builders go to have their dreams crushed by well-executed, tried-and-true balances), while esche pulls it out in the remaining two. BW looks to be the point of contention here, I would slightly favour esche mostly on the basis that he brings something no-nonsense.

3. Xiri vs 14. Spl4sh - Admittedly, I observed Xiri's circuit success circa 2018 or so with a healthy skepticism, primarily because I did not much care for his team selection anywhere I could claim tier literacy. That said, I could hardly begrudge him his success throughout, and have since been able to confidently group him with users like Pohjis and peak Kushalos in the pantheon of tour collectors, as he's expected nothing shy of a workmanlike ability to churn out wins in environments such as this. Spl4sh, I have observed either in offhand games or what replays haven't been privated, strikes me very much as one of many hailing from that Eternal Spirit-esque school of thought; belying 'proper' risk v reward assessments with seemingly more instinct-based, aggressive predictions to rattle the opponent and carrying that momentum to a win. Clearly, not only by his admittance here but also by the present success of so many of that ilk, this is a valid enough approach to the game, but it has historically felt like a poor match-up with players such as Xiri, to leave well enough alone the perceived gap in tournament play. While I can't in good conscious favour Spl4sh in any singular game as it stands, I do feel every game here is contested ground to some extent.

4. Bouff vs 13. Real FV13 - The deciding factor in this game will be entirely in the mental, as strangely this is a matchup of what I feel to be very similar players. Both Bouff and FV are off similar playing ability imo, functioning more as a jack of all trades than any kind of specialist in one tier (making it hard to identify who takes what here), picking teams slightly left of centre either from a bin or occasionally their own works in team selection, and oftentimes failing to see the forest for the trees in-game, playing turn-per-turn without taking a step back to assess what sequences need to be followed in order to ensure a win with the best odds possible. To that end, I am favouring Bouff in a way that perhaps interjects a smidge of personal bias, knowing him better and being able to evaluate his pre-game as solid and his recent win in the SM Cup telegraphing a better control of his nerves at this time, but really this to me seems like the most up-in-the-air of these series.

5. Bebo vs 12. Luthier - I think both players have made great strides in a short amount of time, but for my money Luthier is favoured here; not only has his stock rose with an increased number of gg's in losses, but I feel his games of late have reflected more targeted aggressive play that is channeled towards a greater longterm goal. While Bebo has progressed in his building (or simply what he selects to bring to games) and maintains a greater familiarity with the tier at large, I can't help but feel there are still yet unpolished aspects to his play, particularly in longer sequences (ex: the earlier turns to this game of SM RU Cup v.Bouff, wherein a no-win sequence against a revealed Ice Beam + Refresh Milotic is taken with Gastrodon, only to bemoan the basically inevitable freeze). Fundamentally, I do think Bebo absolutely has the tools to take this set, but to do so might require some restraint when it comes to what I interpret as very ladder grinder-esque plays, which speaking from experience can be a major to-do. My broader expectations are that Bebo takes BW while Luthier ekes it out in ORAS / SM.

Addendum 1: I have been informed that the game referenced here was played under the influence of alcohol. I apologize for misleading the reader, and would like to clarify that in spite of this revelation, this standard of play seems to remain consistent in a sobered state. Ergo, no changes will be made to the player favoured.

6. Pohjis vs 11. Raichy - Another game of two similar types of players, and while I like Raichy, Pohjis is the Circuit farmer. If I were to sift through this subforum and find the finals to the latest ADV LC Ubers Cup, Pohjis would be in it if not won the thing. Moreover, RU has always been kind to Pohjis (with the exception of an SPL we choose to ignore), as it tends to befit his playstyle and he remains buddy-buddy with some of the better builders in these tiers, namely Kushalos and Rabbit. To not give him the nod here feels unfair, though Raichy is surely a competitor, albeit not one particularly native to RU. I see ORAS as basically a lock for Pohjis, and while he is still favored in either BW or SM, Kush's BW building lacks the finesse of his ORAS and Pohjis has a habit of loading up basically the worst Rabbit teams for SM at times, and upsets have come from less. Looking forward to it regardless.

7. Cam vs 10. EviGaro - I'm willing to admit I had to do some research for the next two, as while I've certainly seen Cam's name show up before, I could make no real connection to tier, play, anything really. Doing some modicum of research left me reasonably impressed with the baseline talent displayed over a wide variety of tiers, and while there's always room for polish I found his ability to pick something up and run with it admirable. Be that as it may, a constant in what I observed with this was a bit too much of a willingness to let the opponent set the pace of the game, perhaps deriving from a lack of hands-on experience with each particular tier, and I do think Evi is rather good at punishing such players when they're on their A game. I will have to side with the community at large here as much as I do love me a good underdog, and to that end I do still very much feel Cam can upset if his time messing with these tiers has allowed him to grasp some of the nuances of it all, as I do retain the feeling that Evi is very much tilt-prone. Odd as it may sound, I see a scenario wherein Cam takes ORAS early and rides the momentum out on this one, but really my only desire of this set personally is to see a full three games.

8. Yggdrasil60 vs 9. Averardo - Going to go against the grain here for a minute, bear with me. Averardo has gotten pretty dang good since the Snake Draft debut, being largely self-sufficient, and his play isn't flashy but it gets the job done. I respect the tenure and he deserves to be here for sure. Bearing that all in mind, in doing my diligence as a prediction maker, I've come to realize I like how Yggdrasil plays a lot lol; there's proactivity exhibited in his switching, conditioning and calculated risks taken well, lots of little things that put him ahead of the curve to me. My biggest qualms with him lie in the builder, which lends itself to shortcomings that don't quite reveal themselves until actually applied, and from what I can tell 0 observable ORAS experience. For my money, Averardo is an above-average builder that should be favoured in ORAS purely off what information (or lack thereof) is offered at this time, with a perfectly reasonable chance to take SM to boot. Be that as it may, I'm perfectly content to root for Yggdrasil here, as I think he is perfectly capable of taking this from what I've seen, hardly befitting a clean sweep of predictions against him.
 
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I'll join in with some predicts since I'm not playing in this tour

(1) eifo vs (16) Feliburn - This is by far the best looking matchup. Both these players are very good and this one can definitely go either way. I love my man Feli but he tends to just click rather than fully think through his games, which is where I think eifo has an advantage. I'm sure Feli will make some aggressive plays and the games will come down to whether or not eifo is able to make those reads and punish them.

(2) esche vs (15) Randomnick - I'm not too familiar with Randomnick but I know esche is solid. He is another player who takes their time and thinks through their plays, and has really solid teams. I think he's the clear favorite here but i really hope to see some exciting games.

(3) Xiri vs (14) Spl4sh - Xiri should have the edge here in terms of playing ability, however I've noticed he often tends to bring teams with major flaws in them. I think as long as he doesn't run into a matchup where any of these flaws can be exploited he should be able to play himself into a win, but Spl4sh definitely has a good shot if he pulls the right matchups.

(4) Bouff vs (13) Real FV13 - Bouff has impressed me a lot lately so I'll give him the edge here. After winning SM Cup I'd say he's at the top of his game and has a lot of confidence in his play, and he should be able to keep up that momentum and take the victory here.

(5) Bebo vs (12) Luthier - This should be a very good series. Bebo has more experience playing RU but Luthier is definitely no slouch. Gonna have to favor Bebo just based on the fact that he has more metagame knowledge and that he always smashes me when I play him. Luthier has a great mind for the game though and it good at thinking through a full gameplan. This should be a very interesting series and I definitely look forward to it.

(6) Pohjis vs (11) Raichy - I admittedly and not very familiar with Raichy but I am familiar with Pohjis, and even though I know he won't be building a single one of his teams, I'm confident he should be able to pilot whatever gets passed to him with ease and should be able to play himself into a winning position in any tier.

(7) Cam vs (10) EviGaro - This is actually a tougher bold than many would assume. While Cam doesn't specialize in RU, he is a very solid player and I expect him to bring solid teams. Evi has more metagame knowledge in all 3 tiers than probably anyone else in this tournament, but she is prone to getting tilted. If things don't go her way in the SM game Cam should be able to take advantage, but assuming no bullshit I still think Evi should be able to take this one.

(8) Yggdrasil60 vs (9) Averardo - I honestly have no idea who Yggdrasil60 is so I'm just gonna bold the pizza. I hope to see an exciting series as always though.

Good luck to all players and have fun! I'm looking forward to seeing some great games!
 
(1) Eifo vs (16) Feliburn - i think eifo is capable of taking this series convincingly however from what ive seen feliburn seems motivated and this goes a long way to win this type of tour esp since he definitely has access to good enough teams, just gotta not feli it up too much
(2) esche vs (15) Randomnick - since this is an individual esche becomes 142% better, look out for this guy winning the whole thing into 0-9 rupl
(3) Xiri vs (14) Spl4sh - i havent watched much of spl4sh but xiri is on a streak of doing well without getting lucky and by playing well so gonna bold him
(4) Bouff vs (13) Real FV13 - real fv13's the kind of guy that can win any given game but also can lose any given game, so ill trust the grand slam winner in this one lol
(5) Bebo vs (12) Luthier - imo this is a really close one, luthier demonstrated more results in general but bebo i think cares more about this
(6) Pohjis vs (11) Raichy - i think pohjis is an obvious favorite to take this tour home if feli/evi get knocked out early, raichy can take at least a game though if he preps
(7) Cam vs (10) EviGaro - rooting for my buddy camden but i think evi will take it
(8) Yggdrasil60 vs (9) Averardo - no clue who the other dude is, my bad dude, i saw 49 thinks ull win so this predict is by default of what i know cuz im not gonna go back and watch non-playoffs games
 
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