OU GSC OU Speed Tiers

Fear

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Long overdue a topic for players convenience regarding the most relevant GSC OU speeds. The format is as follows: Speed + Pokemon + Explanation(Modifier if it exists) and further categorized in Tiers. Not every single speed / pokemon is accounted for but all the OU Viability Ranking were included. Additionally, I only included standard / expected Curse & Paralysis(common found paralysis targets) speeds in Tier 5 and where applicable in order to keep the list as ordered as possible (without unnecessary information). Without further ado I present:
GSC OU Speed Tiers​

Tier 1 Agility + Up to base 105

716 :Jolteon: (Agility)
596 :Charizard: (Agility Recipient)
496 :Smeargle: (Agility)
456 :Scizor: (Agility)
416 :Machamp: (Agility Recipient)
376 :Marowak: (Agility Recipient)
358 :Aerodactyl: :Jolteon:(Base 130)
338 :Alakazam:(Base 120 )
336 :Quagsire: (Agility Recipient)
328 :Raikou: :Starmie:(Base 115)
319 :Raikou: :Jolteon: (Base 115 with 216 EVs & Base 130 with 100 EVs, -Speed EVs for priority Roar vs Raikou)
318 :Espeon: :Gengar: :Jumpluff: :Tauros: (Base 110 )
316 :Snorlax: (Agility Recipient)
308 :Electabuzz: :Scyther:(Base 105)

Tier 2 Base 100 - 75

298 :Charizard: :Entei: :Tentacruel: :Typhlosion: :Miltank: :Zapdos:(Base 100)
288 :Houndoom: :Jynx:(Base 95)
278 :Kangaskhan: :Moltres: :Pikachu:(Base 90)
272 :Hitmonlee: (Base 87)
268 :Articuno: :Heracross: :Kingdra: :Misdreavus: :Nidoking: :Suicune: :Gligar:(Base 85)
258 :Dragonite: :Meganium: :Venusaur:(Base 80)
250 :Nidoqueen:(Base 76)
248 :Smeargle:(Base 75)

Tier 3 Base 70 - 55

238 :Cloyster: :Skarmory:(Base 70)
228 :Scizor: :Umbreon: :Vaporeon: :Sandslash:(Base 65)
220 :Tyranitar: (Base 61)
218 :Clefable: :Lapras: :Porygon2:(Base 60)
208 :Ampharos: :Blissey: :Exeggutor: :Machamp: :Ursaring: :Omastar:(Base 55)

Tier 4 Base 50 - 30

198 :Donphan: :Muk: :Piloswine:(Base 50)
188 :Golem: :Marowak:(Base 45)
183 :Kangaskhan: (Curse-1)
178 :Forretress: :Rhydon:(Base 40)
176 :Heracross: :Nidoking:(Curse -1)
168 :Quagsire:(Base 35)
158 :Snorlax: :Steelix: (Base 30)
157 :Skarmory: (Curse-1)

Tier 5 Curse / Paralysis Territory

145 :Tyranitar: (Curse -1)
143 :Porygon2: (Curse-1)
139 :Kangaskhan: (Curse-2)
137 :Machamp: :Ursaring: (Curse -1)
134 :Heracross: :Nidoking: (Curse -2)
130 :Donphan: :Muk: :Piloswine: (Curse -1)
124 :Golem: (Curse -1)
119 :Skarmory: (Curse -2)
117 :Forretress: :Rhydon: (Curse -1)
110 :Tyranitar: (Curse -2)
109 :Porygon2: (Curse-2)
108 :Shuckle:(Base 5)
104 :Snorlax: :Steelix: (Curse -1) / :Machamp: :Ursaring: (Curse-2)
99 :Donphan: :Muk: :Piloswine: (Curse -2)
94 :Golem: (Curse -2)
89 :Forretress: :Rhydon: (Curse -2) / :Jolteon: (Base 130 Paralyzed)
82 :Raikou: :Starmie: (Base 115 Paralyzed)
79 :Snorlax: :Steelix: (Curse -2) / :Espeon: :Gengar: (Base 110 Paralyzed) / :Raikou: :Jolteon: (319 Reduced Speed Evs Paralyzed)
74 :Charizard: :Tentacruel: :Miltank: :Zapdos: (Base 100 Paralyzed)
67 :Heracross::Misdreavus: :Nidoking: :Suicune: (Base 85 Paralyzed)
63 :Snorlax: :Steelix: (Curse-3)
59 :Cloyster: :Skarmory: (Base 70 Paralyzed)
57 :Scizor: :Umbreon: :Vaporeon: (Base 65 Paralyzed)
55 :Tyranitar: (Base 61 Paralyzed)
52 :Blissey: :Exeggutor: :Machamp: (Base 55 Paralyzed) / :Snorlax: :Steelix: (Curse-4)
47 :Golem: (Base 45 Paralyzed)
44 :Forretress: :Rhydon: (Base 40 Paralyzed) / :Snorlax: :Steelix: (Curse-5)
39 :Snorlax: :Steelix: (Base 30 Paralyzed) / :Snorlax: :Steelix: (Curse-6)
 
Thanks for posting this, it's a fantastic resource - the Curse / paralysis stuff is incredibly valuable. My one suggestion is to add a 319 section for Roar Raikou which tries to out-slow other RoarKou while still outspeeding Gengar and co; it's specific, but relevant to know.
 
cherryb0ng said:
Does 319 priority Raikou still outspeed Gengar if the two are paralysed? Tagging Diophantine because I feel pretty sure he knows and I don't remember how the mechanic for rounding up and down is treated.
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They speed-tie due to how rounding down is the norm in Pokemon.
Fear I think it might be worth cleaning up the modifiers part where you detail how paralysis and stat drops lower speed.
Instead of [base stat] [modifier], perhaps mentioning at the top the modifiers and how they affect the pokemon.
You can then just write [speed][pokemon] [modifer name].

Many thanks for this btw.
 
I'd like to suggest +2 Quagsire as an Agility Recipient. It's a very specific BP target, but at least it outpaces almost every threat (bar Alakazam), which is awesome. +2 Charizard is probably worthy of a mention for similiar reasons (some of the "classic" Agility Pass frameworks are quite weak against Heracross), so I think it's a legimitate pick too. Nice thread, thanks for sharing it
 
:gs/Rapidash:
I believe you may have forgotten to include Rapidash in the (Base 105) speed tier. While it is technically an NU pokemon it does have access to Hypnosis and Charm amongst other really neat tricks in its arsenal and I have seen plenty of great players make good use of it on the OU ladder.

Something to consider since you took the time to include Ampharos and Shuckle who is NU itself as well as other lower tier pokemon that are by no means considered "speedsters".

On a side note; here's me actually using Rapidash in tour & winning with it against an actual legit opponent (Vani) so all those leaving puffy koffings under this post didn't actually get the last laugh in the end hehe >:)

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-1588660874-ey26hk05l2x7miy3glabivoriwbxqn4pw
 
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Maybe add 54 speed for -6 Porygon2 (for the people who still actually use this mon) just to show that it's still faster than -5 (or even -4) Lax and you can go all the way in a Curse war? Thank you
 
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