Tournament National Dex Same Trios: Round 8

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Welcome to my National Dex Same Trios Tournament!
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Hello everyone! In this double elimination tournament, players participate in teams of three (trios) with each teammate playing one of the following formats: Same Solo/Same Duo/Same Six. Same Solos and Same Duos will be best-of-three each while Same Six will be best-of-one. Each round has different sets of Pokemon while each set in Solo and Duo within a round have different Pokemon. These formats are popularly played as roomtours in the Tours Minigames room on PS! The Trios winning two battles will proceed to the next round!

Sets of Pokemon:
Same Solo: :kleavor::basculegion::shedinja:
Same Duo: :mew::cursola: / :thundurus-therian::amoonguss: / :marowak-alola::xurkitree:
Same Six: :abomasnow::golduck::rhyperior::linoone::hitmonlee::deoxys-speed:
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Same Solo: Everyone will battle using the same single Pokemon in a singles battle.
/challenge gen9nationaldex@@@terastalclause,zmoveclause,maxteamsize=1,sleepmovesclause,accuracymovesclause,!sleepclausemod,-moody,-focusband,-focussash,-kingsrock,-quickclaw,-acupressure,-perishsong,-hiddenpower,-allpokemon,+kleavor,+basculegion,+basculegion-F,+shedinja
Same Duo: Everyone will battle using the same duo of Pokemon in a doubles battle.
/challenge gen9nationaldexdoubles@@@terastalclause,zmoveclause,maxteamsize=2,accuracymovesclause,sleepclausemod,evasionitemsclause,-moody,-focussash,-kingsrock,-allyswitch,-finalgambit,-perishsong,-hiddenpower,-swagger,-allpokemon,+mew,+cursola,+thundurus-therian,+amoonguss,+marowak-alola,+xurkitree,+marowak
Same Six: Everyone will battle using the same team of Pokemon in a singles battle.
/challenge gen9nationaldex@@@terastalclause,-allpokemon, -hiddenpower,+rhyperior,+abomasnow,+abomasnow-mega,+golduck,+rhyperior,+linoone,+linoone-galar,+deoxys,+deoxys-speed,+deoxys-defense,+deoxys-attack

Winners Bracket:

the plaza plebeians vs Españoles
Same Solo: HugeNoobLmao vs Wonter
Same Duo: shadowmaster6789 vs Dorron
Same Six: Lechen vs Docutel​

Losers Bracket:

tbd vs Vortex Vanguards
Same Solo: LoSconosciuto vs Jadinobambino
Same Duo: procorphish vs Celestia74
Same Six: AtraX Madara vs pratik2007​

Rules to be followed:
  • Players can use a different variant of the same species of mentioned Pokemon (eg. Persian-alola for Persian/Ampharos-mega for Ampharos) but not a different species of Pokemon that evolve from the same species (eg, Perrserker!=Persian)​
  • Mega-Evolutions can be used in all formats, Z-moves can only be used in Same Six (banned in Solo and Duo) and Terastalization is banned in all.
  • Hidden Power is also banned in all game modes.
  • Read and use the challenge codes for better understanding of bans/unbans and to prevent mess-ups.
  • Same Solos and Same Duos are best-of-threes and linear sequence should be followed in between sets meanwhile Same Sixes are best-of-ones.
  • Tournament Battles are to be played on Pokemon Showdown.
  • Follow all applicable Smogon Tournament Rules and General Guidelines, including but not limited to rules against ghosting, timer/disconnect clauses, and activity calls.
  • You must upload and post replays when claiming wins.
  • The Trio winning two battles proceeds to the next round.
Round 8 deadline is Sunday, 6th August 11:59PM GMT!
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pEace.
 
Calling act, my opp told me (on tuesday) to play on thurs since i told him i was busy on weekends. He hasnt been on since tues and i can't play any later today.
 
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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9nationaldexdoubles-1916861360
won in the easiest two games of my life

sundays said:
Your opponent has provided ample proof that they were online during your scheduled time but you didn't challenge. So here I would not give an act win.
Instead you both can reschedule and even get an extension if necessary.
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I had waited half an hour (which is double the time in tours where you can't sub) and got no response. I've cancelled plans today with a friend cuz I had to play this game and I had done none by the scheduled time because a guy who is playing a tournament in Smogon didn't bother to check Smogon at the scheduled time. Ridiculous. Fortunately I won but damn.
 
sundays said:
It's not too serious of a tour anyway, plus rescheduling/extension hurt no one
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It might not be a serious tour but you declined an actwin when it most definitely was by the rules quoted in the OP of the tour and it's extremely disrespectful to miss the scheduled time after someone avoided plans to make the time they agreed to :tyke:
 
sundays said:
Also well, your opponent did message you before 30 mins had passed. But somehow coincidentally you went offline soon after then.
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doesnt matter, 15min is the minimum for act win. saying this as a bystander fwiw

that being said wtf happened here
 
Clas said:
doesnt matter, 15min is the minimum for act win. saying this as a bystander fwiw
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I agree. Still I don't understand how that matters at this low of a scale when rescheduling did no harm. I'm not saying I'm factually right for doing this, I just think it helped both parties and the people who actually wanted to see the game happen
 
I didn't have any intentions to start any beef, I still don't. But I can not sit back and watch someone just say that stuff, and then actually show it to people without at least giving my side of the story as well.
First of all, I'd be objective but I just can't obviously and also keep in mind that I don't host any tours and might not even be right rules wise completely but as sundays has stated this isn't grands of spl or something, it's a userhosted tour mostly for fun so take that into account when you look at this story just morals wise first and see if his reaction was at all warranted.
So obviously the facts are that we scheduled for 11pm my time friday (I'm just gonna use my time for this sry), and that I forgot about the time, I am not disputing that whatsoever. What he fails to point out obviously is that he fails to challenge or dm me at all during that time despite having played me before in a smogon tour, this year's tpc, so he should remember my name, if he doesn't remember that you'd think he'd at least try the smogon name which is the same as my ps one, or at the VERY VERY least he should remember I'm a tours/tp room mod as he hangs out there from time to time, plays tp smogon tours, even is in the discord AND it's also mentioned in my signature. why does it matter? I have definitive chatlog proof that he was in the room the entire time he was on from when it was our scheduled time so could he not just take 5 seconds out and check if I was online, which I was btw and active at that? would that not have even saved him time if he really had to leave right as I messaged him which wasn't quite 30 minutes yet which is completely fine but don't you think it's a bit telling he left right afterwards as well?
Giving him the benefit of the doubt and not assuming he's act fishing, he really thinks he has the moral high grounds not only to be so mad at me but even tell other people about it. I ask you again is this warranted? To clarify, again I don't want to start any beef with anyone, I don't think I'm completely in the right on this, I don't need or want an apology or even a response of any kind, I just want to not be potrayed wrongly, the thing I want most right now is simply for everything to go back to normal, hopefully dorron to change his view though idt that'll happen honestly and most importantly for me to be able to sleep cause it's almost 3:30
 
shadowmaster6789 said:
I didn't have any intentions to start any beef, I still don't. But I can not sit back and watch someone just say that stuff, and then actually show it to people without at least giving my side of the story as well.

First of all, I'd be objective but I just can't obviously and also keep in mind that I don't host any tours and might not even be right rules wise completely but as sundays has stated this isn't grands of spl or something, it's a userhosted tour mostly for fun so take that into account when you look at this story just morals wise first and see if his reaction was at all warranted.

So obviously the facts are that we scheduled for 11pm my time friday (I'm just gonna use my time for this sry), and that I forgot about the time, I am not disputing that whatsoever. What he fails to point out obviously is that he fails to challenge or dm me at all during that time despite having played me before in a smogon tour, this year's tpc, so he should remember my name, if he doesn't remember that you'd think he'd at least try the smogon name which is the same as my ps one, or at the VERY VERY least he should remember I'm a tours/tp room mod as he hangs out there from time to time, plays tp smogon tours, even is in the discord AND it's also mentioned in my signature. why does it matter? I have definitive chatlog proof that he was in the room the entire time he was on from when it was our scheduled time so could he not just take 5 seconds out and check if I was online, which I was btw and active at that? would that not have even saved him time if he really had to leave right as I messaged him which wasn't quite 30 minutes yet which is completely fine but don't you think it's a bit telling he left right afterwards as well?

Giving him the benefit of the doubt and not assuming he's act fishing, he really thinks he has the moral high grounds not only to be so mad at me but even tell other people about it. I ask you again is this warranted? To clarify, again I don't want to start any beef with anyone, I don't think I'm completely in the right on this, I don't need or want an apology or even a response of any kind, I just want to not be potrayed wrongly, the thing I want most right now is simply for everything to go back to normal, hopefully dorron to change his view though idt that'll happen honestly and most importantly for me to be able to sleep cause it's almost 3:30
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Again a bystander perspective; seems a bit off to be this militant about a usertour when rescheduling or extension wouldn't have been stressful exactly, think Sundays made the right call. It's only 30 mins, if the time was so crucial to you it should've been mentioned or you shouldn't have scheduled at a time when you needed to be leaving soon, obv Shadow is not in the right either. Hence, could've just said the wait was too long and couldn't wait more, reschedule and then, if it was not possible, claim act.

It's poor form imo to be vocally disrespectful to someone about something like this, he didn't go out of his way to wrong you or cause distress, was just a minor error. I'm sure he would've apologised and you would've found a time that works better, he's a nice guy
 
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