Tournament NDFL II - Week Two

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:regigigas: Refined Regigigases (1) vs Porto Alegre Poliwhirls (9) :poliwhirl:
SV OU: HoodedZack vs ySagaz_
SV OU: Nish the Great vs Longestbanana
SV OU: sh0shin vs bodi
SS OU: Wildfiree vs Slowpoke Fan
SS OU: ComputerWhiz vs Zerotwo.
SV UU: Blazing vs Iride
SV RU: Chris Chien Pao vs A plague doc
SV Ubers: AM vs Sami
SV Monotype: Serise vs Seo.
SV DOU: NinjaSnapple vs tyo

:seismitoad: SeismiSaucers (6) vs Brexit Bibarels (4) :bibarel:
SV OU: NoName6293 vs RTM
SV OU: Cow vs olivia
SV OU: Swaay vs haxlolo
SS OU: Javi vs igiveuponaname
SS OU: Ryu vs Zcarlett
SV UU: TakingNotesKinda vs Baddy
SV RU: BloodAce vs Lizzie
SV Ubers: Rei vs plznostep
SV Monotype: jeza.p vs Don Bork
SV DOU: Terekusai vs Daepiquejt

:deoxys: Demon Psycho Deoxys (4) vs Pokerich Clique (6) :venusaur-mega:
SV OU: veti vs Wellhell
SV OU: themonkeydidit vs Evie
SV OU: Envy1 vs Fleance
SS OU: V-Creating Victory vs Frixel
SS OU: Maarck vs SHSP
SV UU: Dabman1069 vs starbitstorm
SV RU: Kinzo vs Estragos
SV Ubers: Dahness vs 0.5Mirror
SV Monotype: Bouki vs Dunes
SV DOU: ChainlessJoe vs Test Bots

:sceptile-mega: The Sceptile Syndicate (5) vs Kingly Kyurems (5) :kyurem:
SV OU: Fragments vs Beleth
SV OU: jzplr vs Slikkles
SV OU: Pokemonrainer vs Aso
SS OU: gamer but swag vs JeoZ
SS OU: DarmanitanDLuffy vs Miyoko
SV UU: Razorgliscor vs Maia
SV RU: Caesarr vs Fluore
SV Ubers: BananaTimeZ vs cyclonez_
SV Monotype: Hyjinks vs TTTech
SV DOU: SeaLife vs sundays

Deadline is Sunday, September 29th at 11:59 GMT -5.
Refined Regigigases (0) vs Porto Alegre Poliwhirls (0)
SV OU: HoodedZack vs ySagaz_
SV OU: Nish the Great vs Longestbanana
SV OU: sh0shin vs bodi
SS OU: Wildfiree vs Slowpoke Fan
SS OU: ComputerWhiz vs sayyonara
SV UU: Blazing vs Iride
SV RU: Chris Chien Pao vs a plague doc
SV Ubers: AM vs Sami
SV Monotype: Serise vs Seo.
SV DOU: NinjaSnapple vs tyo

SeismiSaucers (0) vs Brexit Bibarels (0)
SV OU: NoName6293 vs RTM
SV OU: Cow vs olivia
SV OU: Swaay vs haxlolo
SS OU: Javi vs igiveuponaname
SS OU: Ryu vs Zcarlett
SV UU: TakingNotesKinda vs Baddy
SV RU: BloodAce vs Lizzie
SV Ubers: Rei vs plznostep
SV Monotype: jeza.p vs Don Bork
SV DOU: Terekusai vs Daepiquejt

Demon Psycho Deoxys (0) vs Pokerich Clique (0)
SV OU: veti vs Wellhell
SV OU: themonkeydidit vs Evie
SV OU: Envy1 vs Fleance
SS OU: Elvira vs Frixel
SS OU: Maarck vs SHSP
SV UU: Dabman1069 vs starbitstorm
SV RU: Kinzo vs Estragos
SV Ubers: Dahness vs 0.5Mirror
SV Monotype: Bouki vs Dunes
SV DOU: ChainlessJoe vs Test Bots

The Sceptile Syndicate (0) vs Kingly Kyurems (0)
SV OU: Fragments vs Beleth
SV OU: jzplr vs Slikkles
SV OU: Pokemonrainer vs Aso
SS OU: gamer but swag vs JeoZ
SS OU: DarmanitanDLuffy vs Miyoko
SV UU: Razorgliscor vs Maia
SV RU: Caesarr vs Fluore
SV Ubers: BananaTimeZ vs cyclonez_
SV Monotype: Hyjinks vs TTTech
SV DOU: SeaLife vs sundays
 
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I don't know lower tiers, so I will predict OU only.

PREDICTIONS:
Refined Regigigases vs Porto Alegre Poliwhirls
SV OU: HoodedZack vs xdRudi.exe - This guy is the goat, seriously underrated. Just a proper baller, the way he utilized Medicham back in the day, it's something to be seen! You gotta pick this guy to win.
SV OU: Nish the Great vs Longestbanana - I've never seen this guy play, but his name is absolutely tremendously shiesty. Nish the great, very blatantly doesn't know Nish so I'd have a hard time choosing him to win.
SV OU: sh0shin vs bodi - Bodi can be shaky, so sh0shin should take this comfortably. Should be a wipe, easy dub GG xqcL.
SS OU: Wildfiree vs Slowpoke Fan - If this guy brings Slowpoke, watch out Wildfiree. He'll put out your fire in an ich bin ein heartbeat and you'll never know what hit you.
SS OU: ComputerWhiz vs sayyonara - This guy is very obviously a wiz with computers

SeismiSaucers vs Brexit Bibarels
SV OU: NoName6293 vs RTM - This guy.. let me tell you something about NoName. He's SHIEST. Seriously, check this guy play and he'll put you in Camden town. Honestly an absolute baller, no disrespect to RTM because he's also super shiesty but gah damn NoName is HEAT.
SV OU: Cow vs olivia - This person is quite literally named "cow" like come on bro. Cow, bring Miltank trust me, Olivia will never expect it. It'll be an easydub 6-0 hasl.
SV OU: Swaay vs haxlolo - I like both of these players, but Swaay just sways it for me. I think his super heat plays alongside their CTC influence will be a tough match for haxlolo. While haxlolo deserves respect, and is a tried and true veteran, Swaay just gives me so much confidence in their abilities that I have to pick them.
SS OU: Javi vs igiveuponaname - Javi baitly reminds me of Xavi Alonso, who is one of the best ballers of all time. As long as Javi eminates Alonso's ball control this will be a wipe. Major xqcW expected on this one.
SS OU: Ryu vs Zcarlett - I'm not familiar with either of these players, but Zcarlett has Z in their name, which reminds me of a Z move. Z MOVE POWER!!!
SV Monotype: jeza.p vs Don Bork - I know I said I wouldn't do lower tier predicts, but this bloke is so evidently named after John Pork so I think he'll take this one.


Demon Psycho Deoxys vs Pokerich Clique
SV OU: veti vs Wellhell - OMG VETI. What a heatah fajiter player. Just so ich bin skillen in the natdex tier. Wellhell, while being a pretty decent player, will most likely lose to Veti; that is who I predict to win: Veti.
SV OU: themonkeydidit vs Evie - Themonkeydidit will undoubtedly outpace Evie in this competitive endeavor due to their unparalleled strategic foresight, meticulous attention to detail, and an innate ability to leverage nuanced opportunities with an exceptional understanding of the broader market landscape, which collectively positions them for an overwhelming triumph against their competitor, who, despite possessing admirable qualities, simply cannot match the comprehensive skill set and adaptive ingenuity that themonkeydidit brings to the table.
SV OU: Envy1 vs Fleance - Fleance reminds me of Flea from the band, the red hot chilli peppers. Let's hope Fleance can bring this heat to the teambuilder, and then bring it to the battle. Envy1, no disrespect, but your skills are yet to be proven. Check out my dual gallade RMT if you want some advice.
SS OU: Elvira vs Frixel - They have that Frixel aura, they have the badges, they have the respect. It's gonna be Frixel. This game is gonna be the must watch of this series I feel. You have to check it out, catch it live.
SS OU: Maarck vs SHSP - I have the utmost confidence that SHSP will win this game. A wipe will be expected here, however, Maarck is a phenominal player who I know when given the right team they'll turn into Sully Sullenberger. This game could be flown into the Hudson river, however I still favor SHSP.

The Sceptile Syndicate (0) vs Kingly Kyurems
SV OU: Fragments vs Beleth - Honestly, as soon as you saw my post you knew who I was choosing. Fragments is a goat, and is one of my favorite players, but Beleth has just been unmatched as of recent. Beleth will "rock the caspah" in this game, and will do the "walk of life" once they win.
SV OU: jzplr vs Slikkles - I'm not familiar with either, but Slikkles sounds like skittles, and I really like skittles. Have you had the crazy sour skittles? They're even better than the normal one, even though I don't have a particular sweet tooth. Anyway, Slikkles will win this, just watch this space.
SV OU: Pokemonrainer vs Aso - Literally has "pokemon" in their name, this is done on that alone. A wipe will ensue.
SS OU: gamer but swag vs JeoZ - Again, literally has "swag" in their name, unlucky pairing for Jeoz, but this absolute swag shiesty lord will run this one back to the 6.
SS OU: NeverX vs ibleachyourskin - ibleachyourskin has a particularly offensive username, so no way I can predict this person to win. NeverX, as long as you Neverx give up, you will win. Good luck.
 
I don't know lower tiers, so I will predict OU only.

PREDICTIONS:
Refined Regigigases vs Porto Alegre Poliwhirls
SV OU: HoodedZack vs xdRudi.exe - This guy is the goat, seriously underrated. Just a proper baller, the way he utilized Medicham back in the day, it's something to be seen! You gotta pick this guy to win.
SV OU: Nish the Great vs Longestbanana - I've never seen this guy play, but his name is absolutely tremendously shiesty. Nish the great, very blatantly doesn't know Nish so I'd have a hard time choosing him to win.
SV OU: sh0shin vs bodi - Bodi can be shaky, so sh0shin should take this comfortably. Should be a wipe, easy dub GG xqcL.
SS OU: Wildfiree vs Slowpoke Fan - If this guy brings Slowpoke, watch out Wildfiree. He'll put out your fire in an ich bin ein heartbeat and you'll never know what hit you.
SS OU: ComputerWhiz vs sayyonara - This guy is very obviously a wiz with computers

SeismiSaucers vs Brexit Bibarels
SV OU: NoName6293 vs RTM - This guy.. let me tell you something about NoName. He's SHIEST. Seriously, check this guy play and he'll put you in Camden town. Honestly an absolute baller, no disrespect to RTM because he's also super shiesty but gah damn NoName is HEAT.
SV OU: Cow vs olivia - This person is quite literally named "cow" like come on bro. Cow, bring Miltank trust me, Olivia will never expect it. It'll be an easydub 6-0 hasl.
SV OU: Swaay vs haxlolo - I like both of these players, but Swaay just sways it for me. I think his super heat plays alongside their CTC influence will be a tough match for haxlolo. While haxlolo deserves respect, and is a tried and true veteran, Swaay just gives me so much confidence in their abilities that I have to pick them.
SS OU: Javi vs igiveuponaname - Javi baitly reminds me of Xavi Alonso, who is one of the best ballers of all time. As long as Javi eminates Alonso's ball control this will be a wipe. Major xqcW expected on this one.
SS OU: Ryu vs Zcarlett - I'm not familiar with either of these players, but Zcarlett has Z in their name, which reminds me of a Z move. Z MOVE POWER!!!
SV Monotype: jeza.p vs Don Bork - I know I said I wouldn't do lower tier predicts, but this bloke is so evidently named after John Pork so I think he'll take this one.


Demon Psycho Deoxys vs Pokerich Clique
SV OU: veti vs Wellhell - OMG VETI. What a heatah fajiter player. Just so ich bin skillen in the natdex tier. Wellhell, while being a pretty decent player, will most likely lose to Veti; that is who I predict to win: Veti.
SV OU: themonkeydidit vs Evie - Themonkeydidit will undoubtedly outpace Evie in this competitive endeavor due to their unparalleled strategic foresight, meticulous attention to detail, and an innate ability to leverage nuanced opportunities with an exceptional understanding of the broader market landscape, which collectively positions them for an overwhelming triumph against their competitor, who, despite possessing admirable qualities, simply cannot match the comprehensive skill set and adaptive ingenuity that themonkeydidit brings to the table.
SV OU: Envy1 vs Fleance - Fleance reminds me of Flea from the band, the red hot chilli peppers. Let's hope Fleance can bring this heat to the teambuilder, and then bring it to the battle. Envy1, no disrespect, but your skills are yet to be proven. Check out my dual gallade RMT if you want some advice.
SS OU: Elvira vs Frixel - They have that Frixel aura, they have the badges, they have the respect. It's gonna be Frixel. This game is gonna be the must watch of this series I feel. You have to check it out, catch it live.
SS OU: Maarck vs SHSP - I have the utmost confidence that SHSP will win this game. A wipe will be expected here, however, Maarck is a phenominal player who I know when given the right team they'll turn into Sully Sullenberger. This game could be flown into the Hudson river, however I still favor SHSP.

The Sceptile Syndicate (0) vs Kingly Kyurems
SV OU: Fragments vs Beleth - Honestly, as soon as you saw my post you knew who I was choosing. Fragments is a goat, and is one of my favorite players, but Beleth has just been unmatched as of recent. Beleth will "rock the caspah" in this game, and will do the "walk of life" once they win.
SV OU: jzplr vs Slikkles - I'm not familiar with either, but Slikkles sounds like skittles, and I really like skittles. Have you had the crazy sour skittles? They're even better than the normal one, even though I don't have a particular sweet tooth. Anyway, Slikkles will win this, just watch this space.
SV OU: Pokemonrainer vs Aso - Literally has "pokemon" in their name, this is done on that alone. A wipe will ensue.
SS OU: gamer but swag vs JeoZ - Again, literally has "swag" in their name, unlucky pairing for Jeoz, but this absolute swag shiesty lord will run this one back to the 6.
SS OU: NeverX vs ibleachyourskin - ibleachyourskin has a particularly offensive username, so no way I can predict this person to win. NeverX, as long as you Neverx give up, you will win. Good luck.
can i predict whoever this guy is to lose for using twitch emotes on smogon
 
SV OU: jzplr vs Slikkles - I'm not familiar with either, but Slikkles sounds like skittles, and I really like skittles. Have you had the crazy sour skittles? They're even better than the normal one, even though I don't have a particular sweet tooth. Anyway, Slikkles will win this, just watch this space.
When you are called a sweet that's how you know you have 0 charisma
 
Doubles Predicts
SV DOU: (0-1) NinjaSnapple vs tyo (1-0) despite tyo not playing much natdex to date he had a pretty convincing win against test bots last week, so would be a fool to bold against him, should be a very interesting game though.

SV DOU: (1-0) Terekusai vs Daepiquejt (0-0) liked what I saw from Terekusai last week and I’m pretty sure jt had to be last minute subbed out so bolding them

SV DOU: (0-1) ChainlessJoe vs Test Bots (0-1) Joe lost last week in a nail biter with a little bit of rng involved, expecting him to cook this week.

SV DOU: (0-1) SeaLife vs sundays (1-0) the sealife that we saw in derby will make a return this week, I expect this to be game of the week.
 
Week 1 Retrospective - NDUbers

Game 1: Cyclonez_ v AM

:groudon-primal::giratina-origin::arceus-dark::alomomola::marshadow::zacian-crowned: v :deoxys-speed::groudon-primal::arceus-ground::necrozma-dusk-mane::kyurem-black::salamence-mega:

[Replay]

Team Preview

For our first game of the tour we have Mola BO v standardish HO. Starting with Cyclonez, Primal Groudon is most likely the Stealth Rocker, but beyond that it can be a lot of things. It is probably defensive, but one of the great things about Alomomola is how it enables Primal Groudon to run more offensive varients of defensive sets on teams that would not otherwise be able to fit them. Giratina-O should be a special set to handle Coil Zygarde, but physical is probably usable here to help a bit against DD. Mola is mixed as this team is not nearly weak enough to Zacian-C nor specially bulky to justify it. Marshadow is CB and Zacian-C is most likely Play Rough, though imo Zacian-C doesn't really fit well on Mola structures and this team is no exception. Cyclonez is quite lucky AM opted to not load stall as this team has an incredibly rough time against it.

AM's team is well not standard Deoxys-S HO, but not far from it. All of the sets are fairly evident, though what AM decided to opt for in certain moveslots will make a big difference. For example, Mega Salamence is DD, but the possibility of Facade makes Alomomola cautious about throwing out a Toxic. The big thing is whether Arceus-Ground has Healing Wish if it is a DD set. Recover is rare on HO and Taunt, whilst good, doesn't help much here. Imo the best Ky-B set is Tera Fairy Sub BoltBeam, but I don't know how many people are a fan of that.


Matchup [55-45 Cyclonez]

The matchup score is based on the assumption that this is the Ky-B set in the last section despite this not being the case, otherwise it'd be 90-10 or something. Although I'm not a fan of Zacian-C on Cyclonez's team, this is a matchup that you're very happy it came along. However, the biggest threat is the CB Marshadow which really enjoys seeing Arceus-Ground over Ekiller. Furthermore, the only issue Marshadow is going to have is a Ky-B behind a sub given it OHKOes Ultra Necrozma and Tera Ghost Shadow Sneak picks off everything else from a reasonable amount of health. Alomomola also appreciates Arceus-Ground over Ekiller as its Flip Turns will actually do meaningful damage and it is a good candidate to sac to Tectonic Rage if needed. Surprisingly, Primal Groudon is the least useful teammate here. It can set Stealth Rocks if needed, but its HP doesn't matter too much as long as it is kept healthy enough for Ky-B.

I wouldn't be surprised if AM had an audible groan when they saw what was staring them down. Immediately after they looked to heavens and prayed that Giratina-O is Tera Poison instead of Tera Steel. Tera Steel is harder to fit on Alomomola structures, but it definitely can be used on this team. If it is Tera Steel this is GG at preview. Primal Groudon Probably has Heat Crash to break through Ho-Oh for Arceus-Ground in case things go south with Ky-B. It is going to be incredibly difficult, if not impossible for AM to position their mons in a way that they can KO something without immediately being revenged by Shadow Sneak. If there is a way to win it probably involves Ky-B forcing a tera and Mence + Primal Groudon finding a way.

Game

NDFL opens up with an Alo lead against Deoxys-S. This is a good lead from Cyclonez to break a Focus Sash and scout for a Rocky Helmet as it Flip Turns out to Marshadow which limits Deoxys-S to just Stealth Rock. Mence comes in and AM doubles to Arceus-Ground and catches Primal Groudon. Giratina-O would be the better play here imo given that at some point Primal Groudon is likely to be tasked with facing down a +1 Ky-B, so its switchins are limited. Nothing immediately threatens the Giratina-O outside of Kyurem-B and Mola can heal it up on most of this team if needed. Primal Groudon is scared out as Earthquake does a decent chunk to Alomomola which Flip Turns on Taunt and gets a crit. The crit does suck, but Taunting there means that Arceus-Ground is likely going to find itself revenged by Marshadow before it can break this cycle.

Speaking of, it comes in and has a free Poltergeist and AM opts to sacrifice Mence. I don't calc much when writing these, but I did for this and Arceus-Ground should be out of Poltergeist range (tops out at 63.1%) so it is worth taking the only chance that Arceus-Ground is ever going to do something this game. Marshadow is likely to Tera Ghost at some point, but if it doesn't now the game becomes immensely easier.

Ky-B comes in and gets a free DD as Primal Groudon switches in and reveals Rock Tomb which is just another layer to this shit sandwich of a matchup for AM. Primal Groudon switches in to absorb the Spectral Thief and is then switches out as Marshadow Tera Ghosts and knocks out Ky-B. Necrozma-DM comes in and scares out Marshadow and Photon Geysers into Arceus-Dark. Not that it makes a difference at this point, but I think you DD there. Primal Groudon comes in as Cyclonez decides to Taunt. It then decides to trade most of its HP to ensure that Primal Groudon isn't doing anything. Arceus-Dark's Judgment puts Arceus-Ground in Shadow Sneak range as it goes down to +1 Earthquake. Cyclonez_ decides to let Giratina-O out of its ball instead of letting Marshadow get all 6 KOs and that is the ballgame.


Additional Thoughts

I caught some of this game live and didn't quite realize how much Marshadow deletes AM's team at the time. I'm sure that will leave an impression going forward. I don't know if AM has played this tier before, but starting a tournament off with an nearly unwinnable matchup is tough. I'm sure as AM eases into the tier things will start to tick. They're a good player and we've seen other good players go through much worse growing pains in NDPL.

As mentioned earlier, I'm really not a fan of Zacian-C on Cyclonez's team even if it had a good matchup. It didn't enter the field so no harm no foul. CB Marshadow struggles at best into stall and Zacian-C has a rough go of it. The other four (assuming Primal Groudon is overheat) are decent into stall, but with something like wallbreaker Eternatus you still have that fast very hard to switch into mon and Marshadow can Tera Ghost against Arceus-Fairy. Eternatus + CM Arceus-Dark can break through stall, but on its own Arceus-Dark is going to have a very tough time v Chansey + Ho-Oh.

Game 2: Rei v Dahness
:ferrothorn::ho-oh::diancie-mega::arceus-ground::kyogre-primal::marshadow: v :deoxys-speed::eternatus::arceus-ground::calyrex-ice::marshadow::zacian-crowned:

[Replay]

Team Preview

These teams are at least unique. Rei has loaded one of the wierder looking balances I've seen. You can drop Primal Groudon on balance if you really want to, but it locks you into a very limited amount of structures that nearly always feature Ferrothorn + Eternatus + some other soft Primal Kyogre check and this team does not have an Eternatus. Can't say I'm a fan of this team because it has a very rough time against far too many threats. The real wild cards are the fourth move on Arceus-Ground which could be anything, but its hard to imagine much else other than Tera Water Taunt Toxic because of the degree to which this team gets absolutely mauled by defensive Primal Kyogre. Mega Diancie has a dozen good moves it can run, but three of them on this team are likely to be Stealth Rock, Diamond Storm, and Moonblast with the fourth being anyones guess. Marshadow should be CB, but given the rest of the team who knows. The same applies to Ho-Oh and Primal Kyogre. CC Zacian-C is a huge issue so it could be that, but the team would really appreciate offensive Ho-Oh. Defensive Primal Kyogre feels like it makes a bit more sense here given this team is very anxious around defensive Primal Groudon until Rock Tomb or Overheat is revealed and it at least gives one switchin to that.

Dahness' team looks to be standardish except for the Calyrex-I. All of these are mons you expect to see on HO, just not all of them together. I'll be very surprised if Calyrex-I isn't OTR and Marshadow is likely Bulk Up. I want to say Zacian-C is CC because way too many mons are going to want to have access to tera that it will become inconsistent to the point of being a hindrance. Especially OTR Caly-I which is the type of mon that requires tera to do anything in most games and still often doesn't. It will be interesting to see if Marshadow is the Adamant Tera Stellar set that has been popular on the ladder recently.


Matchup [75-25 for Dahness]

When you decide to load Deoxys-S HO the last thing you want to see on the other side of the field is Mega Diancie. However, once you get past that the matchup actually looks pretty favourable for Dahness as their Marshadow threatens everything heavily and is likely going to be a Shadow Sneak speed tie away from sweeping at some point. Similarly, if Arceus-Ground or Eternatus can force Ho-Oh to tera things look quite bleak for Rei as it is the main thing stopping it Zacian-C from running roughshed on this team or vice versa. Caly-I shouldn't be doing shit and tbh looks like a great lead as it can force the Primal Kyogre in and the Glacial Lance damage can reveal whether it is offensive or defensive. It feels as though the game will already be won or lost by the time it comes out so may as well lead with it since the game should be able to won reasonably easily without entry hazards as Zacian-C + Marshadow + Eternatus threaten too much.

Rei can win this, but it will be difficult. It will involve carefully managing sacs and doing their best to prevent Zacian-C from getting an SD. It depends a lot on the sets, but Marshadow + Primal Kyogre (if defensive) seem like they can find a way.

Game

The game starts off with Mega Diancie v Eternatus. Rei was always going to lead Mega Diancie, but I'm not the biggest fan of Eternatus given the possibility of Earth Power and it can play a key role later on in forcing Ho-Oh to tera for the to help Zacian-C. For this reason Arceus-Ground is probably the best lead or Calyrex-I as mentioned above. It goes for a Meteor Beam right off the riff as Diancie stays in base forme and trades half its HP for Stealth Rock. If Ho-Oh is offensive this does put Zacian-C in range of Sacred Fire, but otherwise I'm not sure this is the play. Ho-Oh comes in and eats a Sludge Bomb and is poisoned which will make regenerating enough HP to handle Zacian-C near impossible.

Dahness then goes for a Fire Blast to attempt to catch a Ferrothorn switch and gets phased. However, I think Dynamax Cannon is the play. The Sludge Bomb damage revealed Ho-Oh is defensive so the worst that can happen is a Brave Bird. There is a low roll to KO with Dynamax Cannon and poison will finish it off anyways so there isn't any downside. If Diancie comes in so what? It is at half health and would be a sac anyways.

Marshadow is dragged in and Diancie is sacced. Marshadow then trades itself for half of Primal Kyogre's HP, revealing it is defensive. It then Scalds as Deoxys-S comes in to set up rocks as Rei takes an opportunity for Ho-Oh to regen, but Pyscho Boost comes out. It is nice to see the rarer, but still good moves come out. It then succumbs to its burn and Eternatus comes out. Rei again opts to try and Regen some health on Ho-Oh. This time I'm not a fan of the move this time around. Ho-Oh is at 16% and Poisoned, it is very hard to imagine it finding the switchins it needs to be healthy enough to take on Zacian-C at this point. Whirlwind would prevent what is about happen as Eternatus Meteor Beams and takes out Primal Kyogre. Additionally, Marshadow now can't come in because it drops to +1 Dynamax Cannon and Eternatus isn't it Sneak range.

However, Rei reveals Arceus-Ground to be Dragon Dance as it trades most of its health and kos Eternatus. Calyrex-Ice comes in to revenge but dies to a very unfortunate crit while Zacian-C comes in to revenge the Caly-I and is revenged itself by Marshadow. Dahness' own Arceus-Ground kills the Marshadow before dying to Ferrothorn and that is the game.

Additional Thoughts

Rei's DD Arceus-Ground came in clutch and did what it does against offense, as did Marshadow. I'll stand by this game being very winnable for Dahness. Leading Zacian-C and Clicking SD or even Blade -> Wild Charge if Ho-Oh comes in. It seems incredibly likely to me that Arceus-Ground + Eternatus + Marshadow would finish things off from there. Even if Arceus-Ground comes in Zacian-C is very likely to live Tectonic Rage after Stealth Rock and OHKOes with +3 CC. Congrats to Rei for finding a way to win a very tough matchup.


Game 3: BananaTimeZ v Plznostep

:dondozo::ho-oh::arceus-dark::giratina::eternatus::chansey: v :groudon-primal::ho-oh::zygarde-complete::kyogre-primal::yveltal::ditto:

Team Preview

Apparently I had an impact on Banana loading sample stall due to the predicts. I'm not 100% sure what he thought I meant, but I was talking about the teams that are 6-0d by LO Yveltal. Either way we have stall v a balance that doesn't have Arceus. Primal Groudon is defensive or utility SD. I'd like to say that Ho-Oh is offensive and Zygarde is DD, but looking at this team I have a gut feeling they're both defensive. Kyogre could be either but defensive works better here. CM Arceus-Dark works best here, but if Zygarde is DD Defensive is somewhat justifiable.

Matchup [depends on sets]

This is going to be focused on Plznostep's team as Banana's is known. So can it break stall? Yes, but it depends on the sets. Primal Groudon needs to be Overheat and Kyogre probably needs to be defensive. Ditto is great. CM Arceus Dark + Primal Kyogre is great v stall, though the faster Taunt from Arceus-Dark is very much appreciated.

Game

This one is definitely going to be longer than the other two. We start off with Giratina v Primal Groudon which switches out to let Ho-Oh absorb the Toxic. Maybe Zygarde would be better here as it doesn't let in Eternatus which Toxics Primal Groudon switching in. It then scares out Eternatus to lay a Spike as Giratina comes in to Defog. Ditto can find an opportunity to heal, but having Primal Groudon at 82% on Turn 5 with literally zero progress made is not a good start. Plznostep then makes a good double to get Primal Kyogre in on Arceus-Dark and Origin Pulse reveals that it is very much offensive as it takes a Foul Play and Chansey switches in on the follow up Origin Pulse. I think that this was a time for the double to Yveltal as Arceus-Dark is definitely being preserved here given how important rocks are to limit Yveltal.

After some more switching and Primal Groudon being whittled down to 64% Arceus-Dark finds itself in front of Eternatus and allows it to get Toxic'd as it reveals itself to be defensive by setting up Stealth Rock. Assuming this is Tera Poison I'm not sure why it wasn't used unless Ditto is Tera Ghost and that is being saved. Yveltal doesn't need it and having a Toxic Spikes absorber that can also set up Stealth Rock while preserving progress with Taunt sounds pretty great v stall. Ho-Oh then comes into Defog and it will win this war, but keeping the Toxic Spike and attempting to phase in Primal Kyogre or Ditto seems like a safer move.

Another double and we find Primal Kyogre in front of Eternatus which is scared out. I'm not so sure why as landing a Toxic on Primal Kyogre is really going to narrow any window Plznostep has to break and Eternatus can always heal on Arceus-Dark or Ho-Oh later. Chansey comes in and in what is a massive blunder Zygarde is sent in on the Softboiled instead of Ditto to heal everyone and give Plsnostep a chance. Not that it matters because this is against stall, but Zygarde subs revealing itself to be offensive as Ho-Oh comes in and phases it out and brings in Primal Kyogre which brings in Chansey.

Finally we see Ditto come in v Chansey...and it takes a toss and switches out for some reason? Finally on Turn 39 we see a Calm Mind as Primal Kyogre forces in Chansey. If this had been done previously things may be looking slightly different. Eventually Plznostep forfeits on Turn 79.

Additional Thoughts

Plznostep definitely had the tools to win this. Sure things got off to a rocky start, but Ditto was not utilized in the slightest. I'll be rooting for Plznostep often going forward because flittle is awesome, but this game looks like they need to put in more time acclimating to the tier. Banana is a friend and I'm happy to see him and look forward to what he brings next week v Cyclonez.

Game 4: Sami v 0.5Mirror
:groudon-primal::giratina-origin::arceus-fairy::eternatus::alomomola::ditto: v :groudon-primal::ho-oh::arceus::zygarde-complete::necrozma-dusk-mane::yveltal:
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Team Preview

Sami has a fairly standard Alomomola balance, but most mons could be a couple of different sets. Either Arceus-Fairy or Primal Groudon is the rocker while the other is likely setup though this could be a hazard stacking team. Either Wallbreaker Eternatus or Choice Specs makes the most sense here. Ditto is Ditto. I seem to be alone in my disdain for physical Tina-O so maybe it is, but special works better here.

Mirror seems to have taken inspiration from the random ass Arceus on balance. My gut tells me this is some DD Normalium Z stuff but it could be standard Ekiller. Defensive Primal Groudon and Solgz DD Necrozma-DM seem most likely given how weak this team is to LO Yveltal (usually why CM Arceus-Dark or Arceus-Fairy is in this spot). Zygarde should probably be defensive given this is a mono Ho-Oh plus weak to Low Kick team, but DD can work. Yveltal is likely either Scarf for speed control or LO Sucker.

Matchup [idk]

A lot of this comes down to the sets. DD Zygarde and LO Yveltal are massive threats to Sami's Team and DD Necrozma-DM can be annoying, but is dissuaded by Ditto. Managing to land a Toxic on Alomomola instead of burning it with Ho-Oh will also open up this game quite a bit. On Sami's end if the Eternatus is offensive it is going to be a huge threat, especially if Choice Specs. If Eternatus is defensive, Yveltal is opened up and probably 6-0s if it is Tera Flying.

Again, it really depends on the sets. If Sami can remove Necrozma-DM early, Arceus-Fairy opens up a lot especially if it is CM. Mola teams, especially one with Ditto do not tend to have issues with Ho-Oh. For Sami it will be a game of positioning.

Game

We start off with Sami's Primal Groudon against Mirror's Ho-Oh. Mirror switches out to Zygarde to scout for coverage as Stealth Rock are set and then Alomomola comes in and gets Glared and Primal Groudon comes in to nullify Alomomola's Flip Turn. I think Toxic was the play here and Sami agrees and Toxics Mirror's Primal Groudon as it sets rocks. It then gets the Flip Turn right as Ho-Oh comes in and is scared out as Zygarde absorbs a Stone Edge. A double switch doesn't reveal an item on Necrozma-DM suggesting it is indeed likely Solg Z. However it ends up knocking Alomomola's boots. Knock isn't really seen on DD Necrozma-DM and although I see the point, I don't on this team.

Anyways Sami Flip Turns to Ditto so at least he knows what move was dropped for it. Sami switches back to Alo to absorb Knock Off and Mirror DDs on the flip turn into Primal Groudon. Zygarde switches in and leftover leave it just out of range of transforming and a double goes Mirror's way as Yveltal is in v Alo and reveals Substitute. After the game Emoxu9 messaged me and said it was for stall. We didn't discuss it past that, but it is beyond me how it is better than Taunt or Knock Off. Anyways Arceus-Fairy comes in and reveals itself to be Calm Mind which brings in Necrozma-DM which reveals Moonlight.

Unless it is EQ last it isn't getting past Primal Groudon and Sami knows the set so he uses this opportunity to pass a Wish as Primal Groudon reveals SD as an incoming Zygarde is sent scurrying into Yveltal. We repeat the same cycle again and Mirror punishes a Greedy SD and down goes Primal Groudon. A few turns later Ho-Oh switches into Giratina-O which reveals itself to be physical. Ho-Oh then uses this opportunity to Defog and things have gone from smooth sailing for Sami to choppy waters.

A few cycles later Eternatus enters the field for the first time and leftovers reveal it is a defensive set. Finally on Turn 58 Toxic Spikes are set against a resting Zygarde. Sami switches to Arceus-Fairy and Taunts but gets greedy and tries to set up Calm Minds and is punished with a Glare on the second one. I'm not sure why this was done. Zygarde is only at +1 and can easily be stalled out of Thousand Arrows and letting Arceus-Fairy getting para'd seems like asking for the yellow magic to strike against this Substitute Yveltal. This also lets Zygarde get a second Coil and down goes Arceus-Fairy. Eternatus comes in and forces a Rest, but Zygarde burns both turns of sleep as Giratina-O comes in and phases it which brings in Arceus. Zygarde Glares Giratina-O and it is hard to imagine at this point anyway Sami can claw it back. A bunch of stuff happens and the 6-0 eventually comes.

Addtional Comments

We see the opposite of the previous game where aggression cost Sami a very easy win against what is frankly a bad and cheesy team. I am really not a fan of Toxic Spikes Eternatus on this team as Mola teams really want some fast, immediately powerful mon that deals with the midspeed mons. Specs can even fit Toxic Spikes on it if you really want that. Ditto does that v HO, but it does not work nearly as well against balance teams without support. I hope Sami finds a good middleground going forward. As for Mirrors team, if you're going to fish v stall Tera Poison works and Tera Flying is still good and absolutely shits on teams like this. Emoxu9 happened to get back to literally 2 minutes before I was going to post this and said that Mirror just really wanted to use ekiller and thought Marshadow was weak. The former is whatever, the latter is baffling, especially when you bring a team that gets deleted by CB Marshadow.
 
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Week 1 Retrospective - NDUbers

Game 1: Cyclonez_ v AM

:groudon-primal::giratina-origin::arceus-dark::alomomola::marshadow::zacian-crowned: v :deoxys-speed::groudon-primal::arceus-ground::necrozma-dusk-mane::kyurem-black::salamence-mega:

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Team Preview

For our first game of the tour we have Mola BO v standardish HO. Starting with Cyclonez, Primal Groudon is most likely the Stealth Rocker, but beyond that it can be a lot of things. It is probably defensive, but one of the great things about Alomomola is how it enables Primal Groudon to run more offensive varients of defensive sets on teams that would not otherwise be able to fit them. Giratina-O should be a special set to handle Coil Zygarde, but physical is probably usable here to help a bit against DD. Mola is mixed as this team is not nearly weak enough to Zacian-C nor specially bulky to justify it. Marshadow is CB and Zacian-C is most likely Play Rough, though imo Zacian-C doesn't really fit well on Mola structures and this team is no exception. Cyclonez is quite lucky AM opted to not load stall as this team has an incredibly rough time against it.

AM's team is well not standard Deoxys-S HO, but not far from it. All of the sets are fairly evident, though what AM decided to opt for in certain moveslots will make a big difference. For example, Mega Salamence is DD, but the possibility of Facade makes Alomomola cautious about throwing out a Toxic. The big thing is whether Arceus-Ground has Healing Wish if it is a DD set. Recover is rare on HO and Taunt, whilst good, doesn't help much here. Imo the best Ky-B set is Tera Fairy Sub BoltBeam, but I don't know how many people are a fan of that.


Matchup [55-45 Cyclonez]

The matchup score is based on the assumption that this is the Ky-B set in the last section despite this not being the case, otherwise it'd be 90-10 or something. Although I'm not a fan of Zacian-C on Cyclonez's team, this is a matchup that you're very happy it came along. However, the biggest threat is the CB Marshadow which really enjoys seeing Arceus-Ground over Ekiller. Furthermore, the only issue Marshadow is going to have is a Ky-B behind a sub given it OHKOes Ultra Necrozma and Tera Ghost Shadow Sneak picks off everything else from a reasonable amount of health. Alomomola also appreciates Arceus-Ground over Ekiller as its Flip Turns will actually do meaningful damage and it is a good candidate to sac to Tectonic Rage if needed. Surprisingly, Primal Groudon is the least useful teammate here. It can set Stealth Rocks if needed, but its HP doesn't matter too much as long as it is kept healthy enough for Ky-B.

I wouldn't be surprised if AM had an audible groan when they saw what was staring them down. Immediately after they looked to heavens and prayed that Giratina-O is Tera Poison instead of Tera Steel. Tera Steel is harder to fit on Alomomola structures, but it definitely can be used on this team. If it is Tera Steel this is GG at preview. Primal Groudon Probably has Heat Crash to break through Ho-Oh for Arceus-Ground in case things go south with Ky-B. It is going to be incredibly difficult, if not impossible for AM to position their mons in a way that they can KO something without immediately being revenged by Shadow Sneak. If there is a way to win it probably involves Ky-B forcing a tera and Mence + Primal Groudon finding a way.

Game

NDFL opens up with an Alo lead against Deoxys-S. This is a good lead from Cyclonez to break a Focus Sash and scout for a Rocky Helmet as it Flip Turns out to Marshadow which limits Deoxys-S to just Stealth Rock. Mence comes in and AM doubles to Arceus-Ground and catches Primal Groudon. Giratina-O would be the better play here imo given that at some point Primal Groudon is likely to be tasked with facing down a +1 Ky-B, so its switchins are limited. Nothing immediately threatens the Giratina-O outside of Kyurem-B and Mola can heal it up on most of this team if needed. Primal Groudon is scared out as Earthquake does a decent chunk to Alomomola which Flip Turns on Taunt and gets a crit. The crit does suck, but Taunting there means that Arceus-Ground is likely going to find itself revenged by Marshadow before it can break this cycle.

Speaking of, it comes in and has a free Poltergeist and AM opts to sacrifice Mence. I don't calc much when writing these, but I did for this and Arceus-Ground should be out of Poltergeist range (tops out at 63.1%) so it is worth taking the only chance that Arceus-Ground is ever going to do something this game. Marshadow is likely to Tera Ghost at some point, but if it doesn't now the game becomes immensely easier.

Ky-B comes in and gets a free DD as Primal Groudon switches in and reveals Rock Tomb which is just another layer to this shit sandwich of a matchup for AM. Primal Groudon switches in to absorb the Spectral Thief and is then switches out as Marshadow Tera Ghosts and knocks out Ky-B. Necrozma-DM comes in and scares out Marshadow and Photon Geysers into Arceus-Dark. Not that it makes a difference at this point, but I think you DD there. Primal Groudon comes in as Cyclonez decides to Taunt. It then decides to trade most of its HP to ensure that Primal Groudon isn't doing anything. Arceus-Dark's Judgment puts Arceus-Ground in Shadow Sneak range as it goes down to +1 Earthquake. Cyclonez_ decides to let Giratina-O out of its ball instead of letting Marshadow get all 6 KOs and that is the ballgame.


Additional Thoughts

I caught some of this game live and didn't quite realize how much Marshadow deletes AM's team at the time. I'm sure that will leave an impression going forward. I don't know if AM has played this tier before, but starting a tournament off with an nearly unwinnable matchup is tough. I'm sure as AM eases into the tier things will start to tick. They're a good player and we've seen other good players go through much worse growing pains in NDPL.

As mentioned earlier, I'm really not a fan of Zacian-C on Cyclonez's team even if it had a good matchup. It didn't enter the field so no harm no foul. CB Marshadow struggles at best into stall and Zacian-C has a rough go of it. The other four (assuming Primal Groudon is overheat) are decent into stall, but with something like wallbreaker Eternatus you still have that fast very hard to switch into mon and Marshadow can Tera Ghost against Arceus-Fairy. Eternatus + CM Arceus-Dark can break through stall, but on its own Arceus-Dark is going to have a very tough time v Chansey + Ho-Oh.

Game 2: Rei v Dahness
:ferrothorn::ho-oh::diancie-mega::arceus-ground::kyogre-primal::marshadow: v :deoxys-speed::eternatus::arceus-ground::calyrex-ice::marshadow::zacian-crowned:

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Team Preview

These teams are at least unique. Rei has loaded one of the wierder looking balances I've seen. You can drop Primal Groudon on balance if you really want to, but it locks you into a very limited amount of structures that nearly always feature Ferrothorn + Eternatus + some other soft Primal Kyogre check and this team does not have an Eternatus. Can't say I'm a fan of this team because it has a very rough time against far too many threats. The real wild cards are the fourth move on Arceus-Ground which could be anything, but its hard to imagine much else other than Tera Water Taunt Toxic because of the degree to which this team gets absolutely mauled by defensive Primal Kyogre. Mega Diancie has a dozen good moves it can run, but three of them on this team are likely to be Stealth Rock, Diamond Storm, and Moonblast with the fourth being anyones guess. Marshadow should be CB, but given the rest of the team who knows. The same applies to Ho-Oh and Primal Kyogre. CC Zacian-C is a huge issue so it could be that, but the team would really appreciate offensive Ho-Oh. Defensive Primal Kyogre feels like it makes a bit more sense here given this team is very anxious around defensive Primal Groudon until Rock Tomb or Overheat is revealed and it at least gives one switchin to that.

Dahness' team looks to be standardish except for the Calyrex-I. All of these are mons you expect to see on HO, just not all of them together. I'll be very surprised if Calyrex-I isn't OTR and Marshadow is likely Bulk Up. I want to say Zacian-C is CC because way too many mons are going to want to have access to tera that it will become inconsistent to the point of being a hindrance. Especially OTR Caly-I which is the type of mon that requires tera to do anything in most games and still often doesn't. It will be interesting to see if Marshadow is the Adamant Tera Stellar set that has been popular on the ladder recently.


Matchup [75-25 for Dahness]

When you decide to load Deoxys-S HO the last thing you want to see on the other side of the field is Mega Diancie. However, once you get past that the matchup actually looks pretty favourable for Dahness as their Marshadow threatens everything heavily and is likely going to be a Shadow Sneak speed tie away from sweeping at some point. Similarly, if Arceus-Ground or Eternatus can force Ho-Oh to tera things look quite bleak for Rei as it is the main thing stopping it Zacian-C from running roughshed on this team or vice versa. Caly-I shouldn't be doing shit and tbh looks like a great lead as it can force the Primal Kyogre in and the Glacial Lance damage can reveal whether it is offensive or defensive. It feels as though the game will already be won or lost by the time it comes out so may as well lead with it since the game should be able to won reasonably easily without entry hazards as Zacian-C + Marshadow + Eternatus threaten too much.

Rei can win this, but it will be difficult. It will involve carefully managing sacs and doing their best to prevent Zacian-C from getting an SD. It depends a lot on the sets, but Marshadow + Primal Kyogre (if defensive) seem like they can find a way.

Game

The game starts off with Mega Diancie v Eternatus. Rei was always going to lead Mega Diancie, but I'm not the biggest fan of Eternatus given the possibility of Earth Power and it can play a key role later on in forcing Ho-Oh to tera for the to help Zacian-C. For this reason Arceus-Ground is probably the best lead or Calyrex-I as mentioned above. It goes for a Meteor Beam right off the riff as Diancie stays in base forme and trades half its HP for Stealth Rock. If Ho-Oh is offensive this does put Zacian-C in range of Sacred Fire, but otherwise I'm not sure this is the play. Ho-Oh comes in and eats a Sludge Bomb and is poisoned which will make regenerating enough HP to handle Zacian-C near impossible.

Dahness then goes for a Fire Blast to attempt to catch a Ferrothorn switch and gets phased. However, I think Dynamax Cannon is the play. The Sludge Bomb damage revealed Ho-Oh is defensive so the worst that can happen is a Brave Bird. There is a low roll to KO with Dynamax Cannon and poison will finish it off anyways so there isn't any downside. If Diancie comes in so what? It is at half health and would be a sac anyways.

Marshadow is dragged in and Diancie is sacced. Marshadow then trades itself for half of Primal Kyogre's HP, revealing it is defensive. It then Scalds as Deoxys-S comes in to set up rocks as Rei takes an opportunity for Ho-Oh to regen, but Pyscho Boost comes out. It is nice to see the rarer, but still good moves come out. It then succumbs to its burn and Eternatus comes out. Rei again opts to try and Regen some health on Ho-Oh. This time I'm not a fan of the move this time around. Ho-Oh is at 16% and Poisoned, it is very hard to imagine it finding the switchins it needs to be healthy enough to take on Zacian-C at this point. Whirlwind would prevent what is about happen as Eternatus Meteor Beams and takes out Primal Kyogre. Additionally, Marshadow now can't come in because it drops to +1 Dynamax Cannon and Eternatus isn't it Sneak range.

However, Rei reveals Arceus-Ground to be Dragon Dance as it trades most of its health and kos Eternatus. Calyrex-Ice comes in to revenge but dies to a very unfortunate crit while Zacian-C comes in to revenge the Caly-I and is revenged itself by Marshadow. Dahness' own Arceus-Ground kills the Marshadow before dying to Ferrothorn and that is the game.

Additional Thoughts

Rei's DD Arceus-Ground came in clutch and did what it does against offense, as did Marshadow. I'll stand by this game being very winnable for Dahness. Leading Zacian-C and Clicking SD or even Blade -> Wild Charge if Ho-Oh comes in. It seems incredibly likely to me that Arceus-Ground + Eternatus + Marshadow would finish things off from there. Even if Arceus-Ground comes in Zacian-C is very likely to live Tectonic Rage after Stealth Rock and OHKOes with +3 CC. Congrats to Rei for finding a way to win a very tough matchup.


Game 3: BananaTimeZ v Plznostep

:dondozo::ho-oh::arceus-dark::giratina::eternatus::chansey: v :groudon-primal::ho-oh::zygarde-complete::kyogre-primal::yveltal::ditto:

Team Preview

Apparently I had an impact on Banana loading sample stall due to the predicts. I'm not 100% sure what he thought I meant, but I was talking about the teams that are 6-0d by LO Yveltal. Either way we have stall v a balance that doesn't have Arceus. Primal Groudon is defensive or utility SD. I'd like to say that Ho-Oh is offensive and Zygarde is DD, but looking at this team I have a gut feeling they're both defensive. Kyogre could be either but defensive works better here. CM Arceus-Dark works best here, but if Zygarde is DD Defensive is somewhat justifiable.

Matchup [depends on sets]

This is going to be focused on Plznostep's team as Banana's is known. So can it break stall? Yes, but it depends on the sets. Primal Groudon needs to be Overheat and Kyogre probably needs to be defensive. Ditto is great. CM Arceus Dark + Primal Kyogre is great v stall, though the faster Taunt from Arceus-Dark is very much appreciated.

Game

This one is definitely going to be longer than the other two. We start off with Giratina v Primal Groudon which switches out to let Ho-Oh absorb the Toxic. Maybe Zygarde would be better here as it doesn't let in Eternatus which Toxics Primal Groudon switching in. It then scares out Eternatus to lay a Spike as Giratina comes in to Defog. Ditto can find an opportunity to heal, but having Primal Groudon at 82% on Turn 5 with literally zero progress made is not a good start. Plznostep then makes a good double to get Primal Kyogre in on Arceus-Dark and Origin Pulse reveals that it is very much offensive as it takes a Foul Play and Chansey switches in on the follow up Origin Pulse. I think that this was a time for the double to Yveltal as Arceus-Dark is definitely being preserved here given how important rocks are to limit Yveltal.

After some more switching and Primal Groudon being whittled down to 64% Arceus-Dark finds itself in front of Eternatus and allows it to get Toxic'd as it reveals itself to be defensive by setting up Stealth Rock. Assuming this is Tera Poison I'm not sure why it wasn't used unless Ditto is Tera Ghost and that is being saved. Yveltal doesn't need it and having a Toxic Spikes absorber that can also set up Stealth Rock while preserving progress with Taunt sounds pretty great v stall. Ho-Oh then comes into Defog and it will win this war, but keeping the Toxic Spike and attempting to phase in Primal Kyogre or Ditto seems like a safer move.

Another double and we find Primal Kyogre in front of Eternatus which is scared out. I'm not so sure why as landing a Toxic on Primal Kyogre is really going to narrow any window Plznostep has to break and Eternatus can always heal on Arceus-Dark or Ho-Oh later. Chansey comes in and in what is a massive blunder Zygarde is sent in on the Softboiled instead of Ditto to heal everyone and give Plsnostep a chance. Not that it matters because this is against stall, but Zygarde subs revealing itself to be offensive as Ho-Oh comes in and phases it out and brings in Primal Kyogre which brings in Chansey.

Finally we see Ditto come in v Chansey...and it takes a toss and switches out for some reason? Finally on Turn 39 we see a Calm Mind as Primal Kyogre forces in Chansey. If this had been done previously things may be looking slightly different. Eventually Plznostep forfeits on Turn 79.

Additional Thoughts

Plznostep definitely had the tools to win this. Sure things got off to a rocky start, but Ditto was not utilized in the slightest. I'll be rooting for Plznostep often going forward because flittle is awesome, but this game looks like they need to put in more time acclimating to the tier. Banana is a friend and I'm happy to see him and look forward to what he brings next week v Cyclonez.

Game 4: Sami v 0.5Mirror
:groudon-primal::giratina-origin::arceus-fairy::eternatus::alomomola::ditto: v :groudon-primal::ho-oh::arceus::zygarde-complete::necrozma-dusk-mane::yveltal:
[Replay]
Team Preview

Sami has a fairly standard Alomomola balance, but most mons could be a couple of different sets. Either Arceus-Fairy or Primal Groudon is the rocker while the other is likely setup though this could be a hazard stacking team. Either Wallbreaker Eternatus or Choice Specs makes the most sense here. Ditto is Ditto. I seem to be alone in my disdain for physical Tina-O so maybe it is, but special works better here.

Mirror seems to have taken inspiration from the random ass Arceus on balance. My gut tells me this is some DD Normalium Z stuff but it could be standard Ekiller. Defensive Primal Groudon and Solgz DD Necrozma-DM seem most likely given how weak this team is to LO Yveltal (usually why CM Arceus-Dark or Arceus-Fairy is in this spot). Zygarde should probably be defensive given this is a mono Ho-Oh plus weak to Low Kick team, but DD can work. Yveltal is likely either Scarf for speed control or LO Sucker.

Matchup [idk]

A lot of this comes down to the sets. DD Zygarde and LO Yveltal are massive threats to Sami's Team and DD Necrozma-DM can be annoying, but is dissuaded by Ditto. Managing to land a Toxic on Alomomola instead of burning it with Ho-Oh will also open up this game quite a bit. On Sami's end if the Eternatus is offensive it is going to be a huge threat, especially if Choice Specs. If Eternatus is defensive, Yveltal is opened up and probably 6-0s if it is Tera Flying.

Again, it really depends on the sets. If Sami can remove Necrozma-DM early, Arceus-Fairy opens up a lot especially if it is CM. Mola teams, especially one with Ditto do not tend to have issues with Ho-Oh. For Sami it will be a game of positioning.

Game

We start off with Sami's Primal Groudon against Mirror's Ho-Oh. Mirror switches out to Zygarde to scout for coverage as Stealth Rock are set and then Alomomola comes in and gets Glared and Primal Groudon comes in to nullify Alomomola's Flip Turn. I think Toxic was the play here and Sami agrees and Toxics Mirror's Primal Groudon as it sets rocks. It then gets the Flip Turn right as Ho-Oh comes in and is scared out as Zygarde absorbs a Stone Edge. A double switch doesn't reveal an item on Necrozma-DM suggesting it is indeed likely Solg Z. However it ends up knocking Alomomola's boots. Knock isn't really seen on DD Necrozma-DM and although I see the point, I don't on this team.

Anyways Sami Flip Turns to Ditto so at least he knows what move was dropped for it. Sami switches back to Alo to absorb Knock Off and Mirror DDs on the flip turn into Primal Groudon. Zygarde switches in and leftover leave it just out of range of transforming and a double goes Mirror's way as Yveltal is in v Alo and reveals Substitute. After the game Emoxu9 messaged me and said it was for stall. We didn't discuss it past that, but it is beyond me how it is better than Taunt or Knock Off. Anyways Arceus-Fairy comes in and reveals itself to be Calm Mind which brings in Necrozma-DM which reveals Moonlight.

Unless it is EQ last it isn't getting past Primal Groudon and Sami knows the set so he uses this opportunity to pass a Wish as Primal Groudon reveals SD as an incoming Zygarde is sent scurrying into Yveltal. We repeat the same cycle again and Mirror punishes a Greedy SD and down goes Primal Groudon. A few turns later Ho-Oh switches into Giratina-O which reveals itself to be physical. Ho-Oh then uses this opportunity to Defog and things have gone from smooth sailing for Sami to choppy waters.

A few cycles later Eternatus enters the field for the first time and leftovers reveal it is a defensive set. Finally on Turn 58 Toxic Spikes are set against a resting Zygarde. Sami switches to Arceus-Fairy and Taunts but gets greedy and tries to set up Calm Minds and is punished with a Glare on the second one. I'm not sure why this was done. Zygarde is only at +1 and can easily be stalled out of Thousand Arrows and letting Arceus-Fairy getting para'd seems like asking for the yellow magic to strike against this Substitute Yveltal. This also lets Zygarde get a second Coil and down goes Arceus-Fairy. Eternatus comes in and forces a Rest, but Zygarde burns both turns of sleep as Giratina-O comes in and phases it which brings in Arceus. Zygarde Glares Giratina-O and it is hard to imagine at this point anyway Sami can claw it back. A bunch of stuff happens and the 6-0 eventually comes.

Addtional Comments

We see the opposite of the previous game where aggression cost Sami a very easy win against what is frankly a bad and cheesy team. I am really not a fan of Toxic Spikes Eternatus on this team as Mola teams really want some fast, immediately powerful mon that deals hard with the midspeed mons. Specs can even fit Toxic Spikes on it if you really want that. Ditto does that v HO, but it does not work nearly as well against balance teams without support. I hope Sami finds a good middleground going forward. As for Mirrors team, if you're going to fish v stall Tera Poison works and Tera Flying is still good and absolutely shits on teams like this. Emoxu9 happened to get back to literally 2 minutes before I was going to post this and said that Mirror just really wanted to use ekiller and thought Marshadow was weak. The former is whatever, the latter is baffling, especially when you bring a team that gets deleted by CB Marshadow.
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Some RU predicts, because why not.


SV RU: Chris Chien Pao vs a plague doc
A plague doc played reasonably well last week and sorry to Chris Chien Pao but while your team was ok last week the way it was utilised was woeful. Thus I am forced to bold a plague doc.

SV RU: BloodAce vs Lizzie
Blood Ace beat Kinzo and is up against someone that brought explosion Cloyster. Meaning that they have no good support for the tier nor do they know it themselves. Thus giving Blood Ace a distinct advantage, he also brought a team that I would not be ashamed of last week, thus warranting praise.

SV RU: Kinzo vs Estragos
Kinzo has experience in the tier and I don't know this Estragos fellow. Also last week the Pokerich clique lost while bringing Iron Jugulis and a Maggron with no wish support, which does not bode well for their teambuilding in the tier.

SV RU: Caesarr vs Fluore
I'm bolding Ceasarr not because I have massive faith in them, but instead because Fluore's playstyle last week did not fill me with confidence. Some plays worked out only because they were up against a novice of the tier, a veteran would not have let them slide.
 
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