3v3 austrailian connection tour team [lv50]

after being knocked out in the first round in 07 (due to lack of knowledge about what was good and EVs etc.) i want to make amends and go far this time round

the pokemon allowed list is the same as the one used in the battle tower, all pokemon can be lv 50 max, no 2 of the same item can be used in the battles, soul dew is banned


Here is my lineup:

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Garchomp @ Choice Scarf/Life Orb
Sand Veil
Naive
252 Atk/6 SpA/252 Spe
- Outrage
I chose Outrage as it is a Powerful STAB move, it should be able to do enormous damage to any non steel types
- Earthquake
I chose Earthquake as it is also is a powerful STAB move, which can do Super Effective Damage to a wide range of types and sizable damage to everything else
- Stone Edge
Stone Edge is here to take care of any flying types i come across (mainly gyarados) and it should be able to OHKO them fairly easily
- Fire Blast
Fire Blast is for Ice and steel types that are usually weaker in the SpD area, it also helps against grass types and can take care of Scizor no problems, i feel this is a must as i wont be carrying any other fire attacks on the team
Garchomp is going to lead off. I have 2 options for the item as i don't want to have 2 choice users in the team so when scizor comes in i can switch garchomp to Life Orb, but other than that it will always be using choice scarf to guaranty first attack unless beaten by a priority move

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Porygon2 @ Leftovers
Trace
Bold
192 HP/216 Def/100 SpA
- Thunderbolt
Thunderbolt is here to OHKO gyarados, and to do decent damage to other water and flying types. i chose thunderbolt over discharge so i could get the guarantied OHKO on gyarados, it will also do at least 75% damage to starmie
- Ice Beam
Ice Beam is here to OHKO the likes of garchomp, salamence and flygon. It will also do good SE damage to Ground, Grass and Flying Types
- Recover
Recover is here for whenever my health gets low, which is generally after i take a hit from gyarados or dragons before i OHKO them
- Thunder Wave
Thunder Wave is here to slow down the opponent to give me a better chance of taking it out before it takes me out
Since Dragons and Gyarados are most likely to be running wild at the event as they were in 07, Porygon2 can survive a hit from them and then OHKO them. Also having the BoltBeam combo will help me with general coverage if i come up against something i cant do SE damage to

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Lucario @ Life Orb
Inner Focus
Adamant
252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
- Swords Dance
Swords Dance is to give big attack boost so i can OHKO or do massive damage with the other 3 attacks
- Close Combat
STAB attack as well as high base power will help me deal big damage to anything that doesnt resist it and will almost certainly OHKO anything it does SE damage to
- Crunch
Crunch is here to deal with psychics and ghosts like Starmie and Gengar that were fairly common last time
- Bullet Punch
Bullet Punch is here because i cant use Extremespeed as it is learnt at lv 51, Bullet Punch gets STAB and will do some decent damage after a Swords dance, however there are alot more resistances with bullet punch so more than 1 swords dance may be needed for bullet punch to do lots of damage to pokemon that resist it
Lucario is going to be my end of game sweaper, after he gets a swords dance off there isnt much that can stop it from winning, i do have concerns with bullet punch not being as effective as extremespeed would be though


Reserves:


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Scizor @ Choice Band
Technician
Adamant
240 HP/252 Atk/16 Spe
- Bullet Punch
Bullet Punch gets STAB and priority, with the choice band boost, Bullet Punch will do good damage to anything that doesnt resist it
- Superpower
Superpower is here to take care of normals, steels and the ever so common weavile
- Pursuit
Pursuit is good for when i detect a switch, it also is for doing good damage to starmie, other psychics and ghost types
- U-Turn
U-turn helps against psychics and the occasional grass type, however its main purpose is for scouting
Scizor will be used as a revenge killer and should hopefully serve as a good pokemon to clean up at the end of the match, standard CB scizor EV spread but i decided to move some EVs from HP to Speed to ensure i get the first attack if i come up against another CB scizor

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Azelf @ Focus Sash
Levitate
Hasty
4 Atk/252 SpA/252 Spe
- Psychic
Powerful STAB move, can kill off Gengar as well as most fighting types easily, will do a good amount of damage to others
- Fire Blast
I chose fire blast as it was a powerful attack that could hit whatever psychic cant for at least neutral damage, will help me against the likes of bronzong, weavile, metagross, scizor and lucario who are sure to be fairly common this year
- Grass Knot
Grass Knot is sure to help me against any bulky waters and ground types i could come across, there were quite a few rhyperior last time so this can OHKO it with its 4x SE damage
- Explosion
When Azelfs focus sash activates or when it looks like it is going to go down after 1 more hit, i have explosion which should take the pokemon with me
If Garchomp isnt doing too well at leading, i can move it to somewhere else in the lineup and put azelf in as my lead, this is the standard azelf lead set however due to stealth rock not being that useful in 3v3 i switched it out for grass knot to get some more SE coverage

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Gyarados @ Life Orb
Intimidate
Jolly
4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
- Dragon Dance
Dragon Dance is so Gyarados can get the attack and speed boost so it can start thinking about sweeping the opposition
- Waterfall
Waterfall is for STAB and can take care of Infernape, as well as other fires, Ground and Rock Types
- Ice Fang
Ice Fang will do 4x Damage on most dragons so more often than not will OHKO them, it can also provide good SE damage to flying, grass and ground types
- Earthquake
Earthquake is to take out any Electric types that will try and switch into Gyarados, it is also good for doing SE damage to steel types
If i spot a team that is weak to gyarados (which is quite easy for the opponent to do), i will move gyarados into the main team and it can finish off whatever garchomp does not
 
Just a quick note, I would change Thunderbolt to Discharge on Porygon2 and also change Thunder Wave to Toxic, if only for bulky waters and Wobbuffet.

Also, Azelf wants Grass Knot > Energy Ball. It hits Tyranitar and Rhyperior harder, the only thing you would prefer Energy Ball for is Suicune, which you should be exploding or T-bolting anyway.
 
is there a way to determine the damage difference between thunderbolt and discharge? as toxic is only good for wobbuffet so i dont want to have to use it unless it still OHKOs what thunderbolt would OHKOs
 
It's also good for bulky waters (see Swampert) and can cause switches against the likes of Blissey, who doesn't care about T-Wave but will need to switch to rid itself of Toxic. Discharge's 30% chance of Paralysis is still hefty enough, with 15 less base power. It still does a minimum of 75% to Gyarados as compared to 90% from Thunderbolt, so even running Thunderbolt you aren't assured of the KO. If you want to insure the KO, then Stealth Rock does that, but as it's not as effective in 3 v 3, you'll need to make that call.
 
generally T-wave will be better for 3v3 as toxic damage isn't going to be able to rack up big damage. Id put gyara in over Pory or Luke as it will keep your team together well. It's electric and rock weaknesses are covered beautifully by Garchomp and the weakness pory has to Fighting is covered by Gyara and with access to Intimidate it can stop non DD mences nicely.

If You plan on keeping Lucario go with Extremespeed as Bullet Punch after STAB is still only 60 Power and resisted by incredible amounts of things.

Scizor actually could go over pory. He isn't the best counter to all Mences and Gyaras actually so Scizor could well clear up all the fragile offense teams running around at the tournament.

My suggestion for your 1st team would be Garchomp, Scizor and Gyara covering all weakness beautifully.

Garchomp: Dragon and Ice directed to Scizor

Scizor: Fire Directed to Either Gyara or Garchomp. Gyara is Preferred though as it has higher SpD.

Gyara: Rock and Elec Directed to Garchomp

You shouldn't have any problems in the tourney if you use that team.
 
lucario cant have extremespeed as it is a lv 50 competition and it learns it at lv 51


also, have decided to switch thunderbolt and thunder wave for discharge and toxic
 
Garchomp wants Choice Scarf and Dragon Claw > Stone Edge. You want a move that won't lock you after you KO the original pokemon, saving you from revenge kills from Weavile, Donphan, Mamoswine etc.

And as I said, Azelf wants Grass Knot instead of Energy Ball.
 
oh woops forgot about grass knot, put that in now

also, im not sure about having 2 dragon moves, as not everyone knows what they are doing at this tournament so i might need stone edge for coverage purposes (seen some pretty strange stuff in 07)
 
Stone Edge can be pretty inaccurate at times, and in 3v3 you shouldnt really risk it. Maybe replace it with Swords Dance?
 
why no extreemespeed? get luke to level 51 and he learns e-speed, then breed with ditto to get a baby rioulu with e-speed
 
That's not how you do it. You get TWO Lucario's to breed that BOTH have Extremespeed. But they're genderless arnt they? It's how I got my lvl 50 Heracross to get Megahorn though.
 
i bread 2 lucarios that knew extremespeed and the riolu they made did not have extremespeed

this is probably due to the fact that extremespeed is not a level up move for riolu, right?
 
Hmm thats good point actually, that's probely correct. Lucario doesnt NEED extremespeed though. I don't recommend Lucario in 3v3 though.
 
Ooo, quite a nice team.. I'm having trouble thinking of how to defeat a Scarfchomp lead...>_>.. Which state do you plan on going to?
 
would bullet punch have a similar effect on the game as extremespeed would?

also if lucario needs replacing? what should i put in its place?
 
Ooo, quite a nice team.. I'm having trouble thinking of how to defeat a Scarfchomp lead...>_>.. Which state do you plan on going to?


if it doesnt OHKO, ice shard from weavile or mamoswine will do major damage to scarfchomp


also, planning to go to the one at parramatta
 
Bullet Punch is good, but don't expect an OHKO. You can do a Starmie/Garchomp combo. Starmie is a big threat in 3v3.

Ice Shard from Weavile(at least Weavile) doesnt OHKO Garchomp.
 
Not sure about Swords Dance, so without Swords Dance. WITH a Swords Dance it does of course depend on typing but I wouldnt expect an OHKO on neutural typings.

Lucario isnt that good. With many Earthquakes and Fighting moves floating around he won't do you a favour. Gyarados is pretty rampart too so I would reconsider him.
 
I might run Starmie this year seeing as there's so many Garchomps. I would have made it to finals in 07 if parahax didn't kick in. T_T
 
Thats why I lost, 7 flinches in a row from Togekiss.

If you use Starmie make sure you have something that can take a T-Bolt and Ghost/Dark move.
 
Yep, as long as you paired him with Garchomp, maybe switching Starmie to the lead(so the ground immunity of Garchomp isnt KO'ed first). The only problem with Starmie is that he is very Scizor weak.
 
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