7* Raid Event: Electric Emboar (June 14 - 16; 21 - 23)

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The next 7 Star Tera Raid Battle event has been announced for Pokémon Scarlet & Violet. This event will feature a battle against an Emboar with the Electric Tera Type and the Mightiest Mark. It can only be caught once per save file.
This event will run from 00:00 UTC on June 14th through 23:59 UTC on June 16th and again from June 21st through June 23rd with Blissey joining it for the second run
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And also Blissey again.


Wild Charge it is.
 
I guess we were overdue for Gen 5. I can't imagine something other than the straight 3 STABs of Flare Blitz/Wild Charge/Hammer Arm as a base and maybe following the trend of adding a special/coverage move, though I don't really feel like it adds much in this case other than not crumbling to Intimidates, but there's not really much better for it to do other than setup. Even Head Smash doesn't really add much value.
 
On the upside, Tera Electric means I don't have to think about that potential timeline of them humoring Tera Rock Emboar using Head Smash. Downside, Tera Electric means it's only vulnerable to Ground-types. This is also a perfect time to remind everyone this pig is one of the few to learn Scald, and it has a serviceable 100 base Special Attack to use it if they go that route.

Alternatively, there is Trailblaze or Sunny Day + Solar Beam for punishing Tera Ground use. Maybe Yawn if they want to be rude since that's also a Mirror Herb move the line can learn.
 
R_N said:
I could see it being cheeky and having Drain Punch
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At that point I feel like it may as well have Brick Break instead to disturb screens at least.

VividBunnie said:
On the upside, Tera Electric means I don't have to think about that potential timeline of them humoring Tera Rock Emboar using Head Smash. Downside, Tera Electric means it's only vulnerable to Ground-types. This is also a perfect time to remind everyone this pig is one of the few to learn Scald, and it has a serviceable 100 base Special Attack to use it if they go that route.

Alternatively, there is Trailblaze or Sunny Day + Solar Beam for punishing Tera Ground use. Maybe Yawn if they want to be rude since that's also a Mirror Herb move the line can learn.
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I could see Scald as unique Gen 5 representation and burn, though honestly I feel like the threat of special moves is more about hitting mons with lower SpD than the coverage itself. Against a mon with equal bulk like Arceus you can see that Flare Blitz just outdamages everything else it can do, and Trailblaze is ultimately kind of irrelevant to click still.

0 Atk Tera Electric Emboar Trailblaze vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Arceus-Ground: 74-88 (19.4 - 23%) -- possible 5HKO
0 SpA Tera Electric Emboar Scald vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Arceus-Ground: 100-118 (26.2 - 30.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
0 Atk Tera Electric Emboar Hammer Arm vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Arceus-Ground: 109-130 (28.6 - 34.1%) -- 2.2% chance to 3HKO
0 SpA Tera Electric Emboar Grass Knot (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Arceus-Ground: 148-176 (38.8 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0 Atk Reckless Tera Electric Emboar Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Arceus-Ground: 159-187 (41.7 - 49%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

At this point I don't think they want to give the raid bosses Solar Beam because the charge and attack are on different turns and people wouldn't really understand why the boss just charges/can hit them with Solar Beam immediately.
 
If Emboar ends up only using contact moves, Gouging Fire can be an awesome support pick for survivability:

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Gouging Fire @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Burning Bulwark
- Howl / Morning Sun / Snarl
- Breaking Swipe
- Dragon Cheer

Burning Bulwark burns on contact through shield, Breaking Swipe to constantly nerf Attack, Howl for boosting physical attackers, and Dragon Cheer to boost everyone's crit rate. If SpA become meta or something, could use Morning Sun, or Snarl if it goes mixed. If Emboar decides to use Sunny Day, that only helps you by activating Defense Protosynthesis.

:giratina:
Giratina @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Breaking Swipe
- Rain Dance
- Will-O-Wisp
- Skitter Smack

Sits on Emboar forever. Skitter Smack is there in case of a potential Scald or other Special moves.

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Salamence @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Breaking Swipe
- Helping Hand
- Rain Dance
- Roost

An option actually from the base game. Provides Intimidate, Breaking Swipe to lower Attack further, Roost to heal and resist Wild Charge for a turn, and Rain Dance to weaken Flare Blitz further.
 
While Scald seems to be the obvious choice for 4th coverage (being a special move that hits ground types AND also ruins you with burn)...

Until you notice that Emboar learns Trailblaze this gen. Trailblaze ironically feels like a much more dangerous choice. It goes off the stronger Attack stat, also boosts its mediocre speed.

That said, I'm quite sure Reckless Flare Blitz ends up hitting harder anyway. I think realistically speaking you'll likely want something that resists fire/elec just to not tank those massive reckless booster stabs.
 
:SV/Latios:

Latios (M) @ Light Clay
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Simple Beam
- Breaking Swipe
- Reflect
- Recover

Assuming Emboar doesn't spam Bulk Up, this Latios could be a very strong supporter. Simple Beam + Breaking Swipe allows Latios to debuff very quickly, while also offering allies Simple boosting. You also resist all of Emboar's STABs and Recover offers longevity. The third moveslot and the item is flexible. Luster Purge is a more offensive choice that pairs well with Simple while Dragon Cheer is another interesting support choice. Heal Pulse and Helping Hand can also be used.
 
I feel Quagsire may be pretty reliable.

:SV/Quagsire:
Shell Bell / Rindo Berry (Only if he has Trailblaze)
Water Absorb (If he doesn't have Scald then go for Unaware in case he has Bulk Up)
Tera Ground
252 Atk / 252 Def / 6 HP
Adamant Nature

Earthquake
Chilling Water
Curse
Recover

Because of how weak Trailblaze is, combined with the lack of STAB, with the berry it leaves Hammer Arm as Emboar's strongest move pre Tera, and after Tera Flare Blitz.

0+ Atk Tera Electric Emboar Trailblaze vs. 6 HP / 252 Def Rindo Berry Quagsire: 84-100 (25.3 - 30.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
0+ Atk Tera Electric Emboar Hammer Arm vs. 6 HP / 252 Def Quagsire: 124-147 (37.3 - 44.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0+ Atk Reckless Tera Electric Emboar Flare Blitz vs. 6 HP / 252 Def Tera Ground Quagsire: 178-211 (53.6 - 63.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

I know those Flare Blitz numbers aren't exactly pleasant, but from all the Chilling Waters and Curses you should weaken it enough to where it doesn't become a problem.

Clodsire could also probably work, but I'd rather not try taking a whole barrage of Flare Blitz that could remove half my health.
 
Original Dragon Arkvelza said:
I feel Quagsire may be pretty reliable.

:SV/Quagsire:
Shell Bell / Rindo Berry (Only if he has Trailblaze)
Water Absorb (If he doesn't have Scald then go for Unaware in case he has Bulk Up)
Tera Ground
252 Atk / 252 Def / 6 HP
Adamant Nature

Earthquake
Chilling Water
Curse
Recover

Because of how weak Trailblaze is, combined with the lack of STAB, with the berry it leaves Hammer Arm as Emboar's strongest move pre Tera, and after Tera Flare Blitz.

0+ Atk Tera Electric Emboar Trailblaze vs. 6 HP / 252 Def Rindo Berry Quagsire: 84-100 (25.3 - 30.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
0+ Atk Tera Electric Emboar Hammer Arm vs. 6 HP / 252 Def Quagsire: 124-147 (37.3 - 44.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0+ Atk Reckless Tera Electric Emboar Flare Blitz vs. 6 HP / 252 Def Tera Ground Quagsire: 178-211 (53.6 - 63.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

I know those Flare Blitz numbers aren't exactly pleasant, but from all the Chilling Waters and Curses you should weaken it enough to where it doesn't become a problem.

Clodsire could also probably work, but I'd rather not try taking a whole barrage of Flare Blitz that could remove half my health.
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Should note that this only works with the Water Absorb set or other defensive support like Reflect, since your Unaware consideration for Scald-less will cause Quag to ignore the Chilling Water Debuffs and thus might have trouble getting to a "safe" range from Flare Blitz depending on when Buff Reset happens
 
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Flapple @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Ripen
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Iron Defense
- Grav Apple
- Acid Spray
- Recycle

This funny little goober might be a decent progress-making support. Grav Apple and Acid Spray on the same set lets it help both physical and special DPS mons. Iron Defense lets it take physical moves better, and Ripen-boosted Sitrus Berry + Recycle is a pocket Recover for great longevity. Tera Dragon gives you Flare Blitz resistance, as well.

0+ Atk Reckless Emboar Flare Blitz vs. +2 252 HP / 252+ Def Flapple: 85-102 (24.7 - 29.6%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO
0+ Atk Reckless Emboar Flare Blitz vs. +2 252 HP / 252+ Def Tera Dragon Flapple: 42-51 (12.2 - 14.8%) -- possible 7HKO

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Goodra @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Gooey
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Acid Spray
- Life Dew
- Breaking Swipe
- Tearful Look / Dragon Cheer

Goodra's another progress-maker for SpA mons, and could be a potential soft-answer to Trailblaze with Gooey lowering Speed.
 
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I know this is silly but I wondering how the raid boss handles Focus Punch's flinch if attacked during the charge-up.

Everyone mention Hammer Arm as the fighting STAB of choice, but I'm thinking that Emboar probably use Low Kick instead. On a good portion of the mentioned Pokemon in this thread make LK 80-120BP and it doesn't have to deal with any negative effect it's other option provide.
 
Another option

:SV/Garchomp:
Shell Bell
Rough Skin
Tera Ground
252 Atk / 252 Def / 6 HP
Adamant Nature

Earthquake
Breaking Swipe
Mud Slap / Rain Dance (If he has Scald, don't even bother with Rain Dance)
Swords Dance

Question is, for his normal moveset will he have Double Edge? I mean, yeah, it's a Normal type move, but considering most of the recommended Ground types aren't resistant it's not like it'll do nothing without buffs/debuffs. But Scald is upereffective (unless you're using one of the Sires) and has a chance to burn.
 
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this still counts for my "easy to obtain" requirement because you can find a wild Tera Ground Axew

:sv/haxorus:
Haxorus (M) @ Shell Bell
Ability: Rivalry
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature
- Breaking Swipe
- Earthquake
- Swords Dance
- Snarl / Rain Dance / Focus Energy

Breaking Swipe keeps the damage down so you can Swords Dance in peace, and once it's debuffed enough you can set up and just click a really juicy Earthquake. This probably struggles against Scald but Haxorus learns Snarl too so maybe there's something here
 
Ayo my goat could actually be pretty useful here!
:sv/flygon:
Flygon
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Stellar
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Atk / 128 Def
Impish Nature
- Screech
- Earthquake
- Scorching Sands
- Struggle Bug/Bulldoze/Breaking Swipe(?)
They're immune to electric, resist fire and can manage fighting moves reasonably well. They also got a ton of cool support tech between screech, scorching sands to fish for burns, bulldoze for speed control, breaking swipe for further debuffs and even struggle bug in case of any mixed set shenanigans. Still unsure of the ev spread, but this should technically do (you actually outspeed without any investment though which is pretty nice)
 
Appletun with Thick Fat could be an interesting option if you can find a special hitter with access to Earth Power / Scorching Sands. Appletin resists fire and double resists electric, water (in case of scald), and grass (trailblaze) and is neutral to fighting.

With access to screens and Iron Defense you could potential sit there and drop Emboars special defense all day with Apple Acid. A Curse/Earthquake set might be worth trying as well.
 
I forsee intimidate support being desirable, but most strats use physical attackers, and the only screecher with intimidate is Arbok. Arbok will likely work, but the guy takes 81% from a flare blitz crit (phys def set).

Simple beam Lati will be good. Thick fat simple beam grumpig will also be good.

Scream tail will also work (as always). This time running Covert Cloak/Light Clay, Howl, Reflect, Helping hand, and a conditional support option.

As far as attackers go, the 2 main options for OHKO strats are Ursaluna and Krookodile. Krook can only reliably T1 OHKO a 30x HP variant, while daddy bear can kill the 35x, but with more stringent support reqs.

Garchomp is likely going to be meta, as an SD ground attacker that resists fire. He’s going to be quite slow to boost because SD is suck. So he will benefit greatly from Simple Beam Latios to speed it up a bit, and screech support.

Various screechers should be good here. Swampert/Marshtomp is a new toy with screech, chill water, helping hand. The only screechers with reflect without an active weakness to the triple STAB combo are Sandy Shocks and Electivire. Sandy shocks might be viable; electivire is outclassed. Muk-Classic is another possible screecher, but with less dmg mitigation potential. I’m kind of underwhelmed by the variety of good screech options.
 
I wouldn't be shocked if Heat Crash ends up on Emboar's moveset. I know Flare Blitz benefits from Reckless, but Heat Crash used to be its signature in Gen 5, and most of the starters have used their old signature moves outside of a select few. In fact, if it uses Low Kick alongside it, it can hit both weight classes on the same set; Low Kick for heavier targets, and Heat Crash for lighter targets. Wild Charge would then be the move to benefit from Reckless.
 
Vengeance417 said:
I wouldn't be shocked if Heat Crash ends up on Emboar's moveset. I know Flare Blitz benefits from Reckless, but Heat Crash used to be its signature in Gen 5, and most of the starters have used their old signature moves outside of a select few. In fact, if it uses Low Kick alongside it, it can hit both weight classes on the same set; Low Kick for heavier targets, and Heat Crash for lighter targets. Wild Charge would then be the move to benefit from Reckless.
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On the other hand Heat Crash is kind of bad as a move. Relative weight checks when most heavy hitters are very literal feels like a good way to deal mediocre damage at best. Samurott (regular) had the better signature with Razor Shell and that still got the boot for Aqua Cutter.

I also recall the AI being bad with moves with no fixed power like Heat Crash & Low Kick. Maybe that's different for raid AI? But if not there's a good chance it just never uses them compared to Wild Charge, even if you (for some reason) bring in the lightest (or heaviest, for Low Kick) Pokemon.
 
flamewizzy21 said:
Garchomp is likely going to be meta, as an SD ground attacker that resists fire. He’s going to be quite slow to boost because SD is suck.
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... What? Since when does a +2 suck? Especially since, at most, you want to be at +3. Besides, without Simple there's only 1 move in the entire game that raises a stat by 3, and very few Pokemon learn it, one of which being a Mythical. Granted, said Mythical is more accessible than most of the others because of Legends Arceus, but still.
 
Original Dragon Arkvelza said:
... What? Since when does a +2 suck? Especially since, at most, you want to be at +3. Besides, without Simple there's only 1 move in the entire game that raises a stat by 3, and very few Pokemon learn it, one of which being a Mythical. Granted, said Mythical is more accessible than most of the others because of Legends Arceus, but still.
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I'm assuming they're comparing it to Belly Drum, which is much quicker than Swords Dance. Thing is, the only Belly Drumming Ground-type in the game is Ursaluna, and it's weak to Fighting, relegating it to dedicated T1 OHKO strategies instead of random play.
 
First tried it with my support Gouging Fire alongside a random Iron Hands and a Mudsdale. Despite it having Head Smash, Burning Bulwark + Breaking Swipe made Gouging Fire hard-wall Emboar. I then Howl'd to boost their Attack and Dragon Cheer'd for crits, which came in handy when Emboar used Bulk Up twice.

Caught in a Level Ball.
 
Yeah, Garchomp completely walls this guy. Drain Punch won't be doing jack. And without Scald, that means if you're worried about Flare Blitz you're free to set up Rain Dance. Just have to transfer him to Sword so I can give Breaking Swipe, then I'm golden.
 
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Emboar throws on Azumarill fishing for Flare Blitz burns instead of always going for Wild Charge. Light resets means the rest is history and Azumarill scores another solo win on the 3rd attempt (first blind attempt with Charm over Defense Curl and getting burnt/dying twice, second immediately ran because of unfavourable AI).

I settled for preserving both cheers from a T1 Flare Blitz (AI defense cheer, I used Mud-Slap just for tera) and a T2 Wild Charge death while I set the offense cheer. Afterwards I set a defense curl, then Mud-Slaps, then another defense curl, then remembered I could tera at the same time as setting up Defense Curl. Honestly Water tera might have helped more here with how much he used Flare Blitz, but ultimately Fairy mitigates the peak damage I can take. I took 2 heal cheers before and after Belly Drum, then just Play Roughed to victory without really caring about the 3 late scripted moves. AI Arcanine's Intimidate was helpful. Losing Twitter uploads on Switch was not.

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