A body! [OU RMT]

[Mentlegen]

I'm not sure what my build type is with this, I've just started testing and actually have had some success, but I want to see if Smogon can help me out with this build.

I named my pokemon after parts of the body because I just had a biology final and so its pretty much all I'm thinking about.

At a glance:

In Depth:

The Torso

Swampert @ Leftovers
Nature: Relaxed
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 216 Def / 52 SpA
~Stealth Rock
~Roar
~Ice Beam
~Earthquake

Swampert is my SR user and a stable part of my team. Being my most defensive pokemon, I will often times use him to try and stop a sweep or kill/lure pokemon who would otherwise harm my sweepers. All in all, a pretty self-explanatory pokemon, and probably one of my key pokemon, as he is my stealth rocker.

Moved Swampert to lead.

Swampert is my torso because he is my lead. He also serves as one of my key defensive pokemon, just like your torso serving a key purpose.


The Left Arm

Lucario @ Life Orb
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
~Swords Dance
~Extremespeed
~Close Combat
~Crunch

Lucario is one of my sweepers. His job is to switch in on a pokemon he can set up on, and just start wrecking the other team. Often times I have switched him in if the other pokemon has a little health left to use Extremespeed to get the KO and then Swords Dance on the next turn. Close Combat and Ice Punch are used to sweep once I get Swords Dance up. My only real question about his use is; when do I use extremespeed over the other two attacks while sweeping?

Lucario is my left arm because he one of my best weapons, just like my arms are. He is also my favorite of the two sweepers, just like my left arm is the stronger of my two.

The Right Arm

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 156 HP / 108 Atk / 144 Spe / 100 Def
~Dragon Dance
~Waterfall
~Taunt
~Stone Edge
Gyarados is my other sweeper. Because Lucario already has Ice Punch, I opted to switch Gyarados's Ice Fang with Earthquake, giving me better type coverage. In everyday battles, I will look for a chance to switch in and Dragon Dance, and then start sweeping the opponent of his/her feet. I have also had times where it has come down to my opponent having 2-3 pokemon left, and me only having Gyarados, and without setting him up I have been able to sweep more than 50% of the time (because I took out Gyarados' counters before hand).

Gyarados is my right arm because he is one of my best sweepers, and therefore won this designation.


The Left Leg

A picture of Ttar from a Smogon Member, horray!
Tyranitar @ Expert Belt
Nature: Hasty
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 120 Atk / 244 Spe / 144 SpA
~Pursuit
~Earthquake
~Fire Blast
~Crunch

Tyranitar, one of my more defensive pokemon. Tyranitar's main jobs are to kill any counters my sweepers have, as well as deal plenty of damage to weaken a pokemon. Often times, I've seen another pokemon use explosion on one of my other 5 pokemon, and when that happens, I switch in Tyranitar (assuming my pokemon died). I've seen many a time where this has happened, and when I switched in Ttar, my opponent has changed to Scizor. Predicting this, I often times while use fire blast as my first move, and when it one hits the Scizor, my life becomes SO much easier. The only problem is this is my only pokemon who can count ghost-types, and so they end up being my achilles heel. (I would consider switching this with a pokemon that is more durable but can still counter Scizor/others pretty well.)

Tyranitar is my left leg because I use him as a defensive measure but also as a good attacker, just like my left leg.

The Right Leg

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 188 HP / 252 Def / 64 Spe
~Surf
~Hidden Power Electric
~Wish
~Protect

My most defensive pokemon, Vaporeon serves a very important part of my team. He counters Infernape and Gyarados, both of which I am afraid of. Wish + Protect allow my Vaporeon to survive, which will help, considering none of my other pokemon really have that good of a way of surviving. All in all, a great defensive pokemon that I am happy to have on my team.

Added Vaporeon to the team, took out Weavile.

The Head

Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf
Nature: Timid
Ability: Download
EVs: 4 Def / 252 Spe / 252 SpA
~Tri Attack
~Ice Beam
~Thunderbolt
~Hidden Power Fighting

Porygon-Z, my favorite of this team, is my revenge killer. His raw power is so ridiculous, I'm almost always sure to score at least one or two kills with him. I'll just switch in after a pokemon on my team dies and quickly get a kill. Tri-Attack is my main attack, and I will use it against any pokemon not resistant to it, unless one of my other 3 moves has a x4 modifier. Very rarely do I encounter a pokemon who isn't OHKOed or 2HKOed by him. He is also VERY useful at luring out other pokemon who I can demolish. If I'm locked in a move like Tri Attack, often times my enemy will switch in a ghost. That is when I'll switch in Ttar and crunch him once and the pokemon is done for. Porygon is probably what has saved me from losing in so many battles, as his consistant KOing has kept many battles at a 1:1 ratio.

Porygon-Z is the head of my team because he is probably my most vital team member. He also is my last resort weapon, often like my head is.

My OCD made me find pictures of the pokemon that were facing forward, except Swampert and Porygon-Z don't have facing forward pictures, so I found the closest thing.

A side note is I plan on transferring this team to my Platinum game once I get it perfected, so I can do things with it. That makes pokemon like Zapdos/Moltres/Articuno/Latias/Latios etc. really hard for me to get, because I won't be able to breed them for perfect stats. As for Rotoms, I'm not using them because I can't use his different forms on Wifi.

That's all I think, so rate away!

P.S. Is this considered a balanced team? Or what category would it fall under?

P.P.S. Don't you just love the Porygon-Z and Gyarados shiny colors? I do.

P.P.P.S. (or something like that) I will hilight all changes in bold.

 

[haunter]

Hi,

I believe that your build type can be easily defined "offensive": 5 pokemon out of 6 are sweepers...

However, I think that you have a pretty solid team, but I'd make some changes:

1) I'd replace Weavile: it tends to die too quickly and, in my opinion, you're wasting a pokemon slot with it. Since you already have Swampert in your team, I'd suggest to use it as your lead. In this case, consider replacing either ice beam or surf with roar, which is extremely useful to scout your opponent and to stop random stat up leads like Ninjask, and also prevents stat up sweepers like Gyarados from setting up on you (assuming no taunt, obviously).

2) I believe that you should make your Gyarados more bulky: it's your only counter to Lucario and possibly your best switch into Scizor. Considering how common these two pokemons are, having a sure counter for them is a must, in my opinion. Even if that means that you'll lose a lot of offensive power, I really suggest that you use a bulky Gyarados or even a sleep talk one, so:

Gyarados@leftovers
nature: adamant
EVs: 156 HP / 108 Atk / 100 Def / 144 Spe
-dragon dance
-waterfall
-stone edge
-taunt

or

Gyarados@leftovers
nature: impish
EVs: 252 HP / 224 Def / 32 Spe
-dragon dance
-waterfall
-rest
-sleep talk

the Spe EVs are just to be faster than positive natured base 90 pokemons (like jolly Lucario) after a DD.

3) You have no counters for Latias: a specs Latias may give your team massive problems. Your only answer to her is TTar, that's why I suggest that you find a place for pursuit on it: ice beam or fire blast should be replaced. In this case, also consider running max attack, especially if you drop ice beam, because even with 4 EVs you'll ohko Scizor and Forretress and 2hko Skarmory with fire blast. Pursuit is also very useful to trap things like scarf-Gengar or scarf-Rotom among the others.

4) If you decide to replace Weavile, then you'll have a free slot in your team. Now looking at your team, I see two problems: Infernape (though a defensive Gyarados may counter stone edge-less variants) and opposing Gyarados (which you can only revenge-kill with P-Z, and only if it doesn't get more than one DD). So, I see two options:

- insert a defensive Vaporeon:

Vaporeon@leftovers
nature: bold
EVs: 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Spe
-surf
-hidden power electric
-wish
-protect

which will counter both Infernape (barring the rare swords dance variant) and Gyarados;

- insert an offensive calm mind Latias:

Latias@life orb
nature: timid
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-calm mind
-dragon pulse
-surf
-recover

which will still counter Infernape but seems to fit a lot better into your build type. She can also set up on bulky waters like Swampert and Vaporeon. Latias won't counter Gyarados, though.

Just some suggestions, I hope this helps.

GL!

 

[Erazor]

In addition to Haunter's excellent suggestions, replace Ice Punch for Crunch on Luke. Ice punch only hits the dragons, but with adamant, Luke will never outrun them. Crunch also lets you beat Rotom-A

 

[Mentlegen]

I have a couple of quick questions:

Will Vaporeon be able to switch in on Infernape and Gyarados?

and

Should I keep Swampert out as long as possible (like a suicide lead) or just let him lay down SR and start playing with my other pokemon (assuming the pokemon that I'm fighting isn't easily killed by Swampert).

 

[haunter]

I have a couple of quick questions:

Will Vaporeon be able to switch in on Infernape and Gyarados?

and

Should I keep Swampert out as long as possible (like a suicide lead) or just let him lay down SR and start playing with my other pokemon (assuming the pokemon that I'm fighting isn't easily killed by Swampert).

Yes, Vaporeon can switch into every Infernape barring the SD variant and yes, it can also switch into Gyarados because even offnsive variants (read: adamant + max attack + life orb) will fail to ohko it with a +1 stone edge or earthquake (barring crits, obviously).

About Swampert, that really depends on the battle situations, but usually you want to keep it alive as long as possible because it's an excellent check for things like TTar, Flygon and Salamence.

Also be sure to insert or at least try pursuit on TTar because Latias can be a pain for this team.

 

[Mentlegen]

Yes, Vaporeon can switch into every Infernape barring the SD variant and yes, it can also switch into Gyarados because even offnsive variants (read: adamant + max attack + life orb) will fail to ohko it with a +1 stone edge or earthquake (barring crits, obviously).

About Swampert, that really depends on the battle situations, but usually you want to keep it alive as long as possible because it's an excellent check for things like TTar, Flygon and Salamence.

Also be sure to insert or at least try pursuit on TTar because Latias can be a pain for this team.

Oh yeah, I forgot about pursuit, thanks!

Also: I just played a game where I got walled by Blissey. Normally this wouldn't be a problem, but my Lucario just happened to be dead. Is there any other strategy my pokemon have to take down a Blissey?

 

[haunter]

Oh yeah, I forgot about pursuit, thanks!

Also: I just played a game where I got walled by Blissey. Normally this wouldn't be a problem, but my Lucario just happened to be dead. Is there any other strategy my pokemon have to take down a Blissey?

Pursuit should replace either fire blast or ice beam, not crunch.

About Blissey, you should not have massive problems with her with Lucario and Gyarados which can usually set up on her. Although if you really think that Blissey is a problem, then TTar's earthquake could be replaced by stone edge which will always 2hko the standard Blissey.

 

[Mentlegen]

So I fixed pursuit, but I now have an issue with having way too many water pokemon. I'm wondering if I can replace one of my water pokes so I have a better type coverage, because I have the issue of 3 of my 6 pokemon getting instantly OHKOed by anything that has an electric and grass type move.

Also: I'm looking at making a balanced build that "works around a specific threat" because it seems like a different play style, but I'm not sure if by "specific threat" I should be looking for a lot of paralysis/poison type moves or if I should focus on sweeping with one pokemon and killing its counters with another.

 

[haunter]

So I fixed pursuit, but I now have an issue with having way too many water pokemon. I'm wondering if I can replace one of my water pokes so I have a better type coverage, because I have the issue of 3 of my 6 pokemon getting instantly OHKOed by anything that has an electric and grass type move.

Don't replace your water pokemons, everyone of them has a specific function.
If you're really experiencing problems with electric and grass moves - indeed an hidden power [grass] Zapdos or Jolteon may give you some problems (though TTar is a fine switch into both) - then replace Porygon-Z with a scarf-Latias:

Latias@choice scarf
nature: modest
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-draco meteor
-dragon pulse
-surf
-trick

this pokemon works perfectly as a revenge killer - she's faster than P-Z and has only a little less SpA using a modest nature - and has a good synergy with Vaporeon, which can keep her healthy with wish. Latias resists both grass and electric and makes a perfect switch into Zapdos and Jolteon (just watch for a specs'd shadow ball).