A Simple OU RMT

Pory

Ok. I'm making this thread because I want to see the comments that people have, and make some improvements.

I noticed that there were more physical attackers than special, so I have more physical walls. I also noticed that most walls were defensive, so I have put more special attackers into this team. I am not sure about my last slot, so please help me with that. It is mainly for wifi. Now all I have to say is.. Rate My Team!

At a Glance:
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Tyranitar @ Choice Band
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 Atk/176 HP/80 Sp Def
Adamant nature
~ Earthquake
~ Pursuit
~ Aqua Tail
~ Stone Edge

Ttar sets up sandstorm, which I am using for the extra damage along with poison from Toxic Spikes. All Life Orb users will go down quickly, and that can be useful when stalling them out. Earthquake is useful for other Tyranitars, although I will probably use Aqua Tail, predicting a switch. In my experiences with Ttar, most other Ttar leads switched to Gliscor, which are 2HKO'd by Aqua Tail. Pursuit is there for Gengar and Azelf leads, and their Focus Sash is broken by the sandstorm. They have no escape :D Stone Edge deals a good amount of damage to everything, it destroys Blissey and Zapdos, and anything weak to it.

For the EVs, I really don't need to outrun Skarmory, and other Ttar cannot OHKO with Earthquake (with no Choice Band.) Instead of Speed, I put the EVs into Sp Def to take some extra hits.


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Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/220 Def/36 SpA
Bold nature
~ Thunderbolt
~ Heat Wave
~ Thunder Wave
~ Roost

Zapdos is mainly here to do some extra walling, and slow down the opponent. Thunder Wave is here because I am not looking to set up Toxic Spikes right away, and even if I did, I want to slow down those speedy steels (Scarftran, Scarf Jirachi, etc.) Zapdos comes in on Vaporeons, which, in my experience, are the most common switchins on Ttar, Gliscor, and Heatran. Zapdos is also here for Gyarados, who poses a big threat to half of my team. Roost is there to recover my HP so he can come back later on, and Heat Wave takes out steels.

Again, no speed EVs here because I'm not looking to outrun anything, and I want a boost for Thunderbold and Heat Wave.

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Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP/216 Def/40 SpDef
Impish nature
~ Whirlwind
~ Spikes
~ Drill Peck
~ Roost

Skarmory is the main physical wall here. I know you are probably thinking, "hai Taunt" but that is an uncommon move, and I have Zapdos to come in on Gyarados, and Ttar to come in on Gengar. I set up my Spikes AND Stealth Rock with Skarmory, and he can easily get it up since I will be coming in on physical attackers. He basically just stalls the opponent, and destroys their HP with the sandstorm, Stealth Rock, Spikes, and poison damage allowing Heatran to sweep. People are going to want to switch when they see Gliscor's set, and they will regret it.

Skarmory also acts as my phazer by getting rid of Snorlax, and walling Swampert, who I can't really hurt. Skarmory rarely gets OHKO'd, and my next Pokemon is there to stop the OHKO.

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Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 Spe/252 SpA/4 Atk
Timid Nature
~ Fire Blast/Flamethrower
~ Earth Power
~ Dragon Pulse
~ Explosion

The standard Scarftran. He's here to take other Heatrans since most don't run scarf anymore. He also covers Infernape and Electivire, which is very useful since they threaten my teammates. If I get the Flash Fire boost, I can wear down my opponent very quickly and easily with the sandstorm, Spikes and Stealth Rock damage. He also takes down Salamence if I need to.

Fire Blast or Flamethrower is just a matter of accuracy, and I havn't had too many problems yet.


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Tentacruel @ Leftovers
Ability: Liquid Ooze
EVs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 SpD
Calm nature
~ Surf
~ Rapid Spin
~ Toxic Spikes
~ HP Electric/Ice Beam

Tentacruel is my only special wall, but provides a lot for this team. Toxic Spikes adds up with all of the other damage you know of, and wears down my opponent. Rapid Spin is there because I get really annoyed at the damage from Stealth Rock for some reason. I also hate other Toxic Spikes. HP Electric would be for Gyarados, but Ice Beam for dragons and ground types, but Surf covers that. I am thinking of HP Electric because it helps with the rare Empoleon and bulky Starmie, and stalls out Vaporeon.

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Gliscor @ Yache Berry
Ability: Hyper Cutter
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 Sp Def
Impish nature
~ Stealth Rock
~ Earthquake
~ Stone Edge
~ Roost

I really didn't know what to put in my last slot, so Gliscor is only temporary. I like how he provides more defense, but I'm also aiming at sweeping once the opponents sweepers are paralyzed from Zapdos. If you want to switch, go ahead, feel the pain from the rocks. I can survive an Ice Beam from anything with Yache Berry, and then hit back with either Earthquake or Stone Edge. Again, Roost is there to restore my HP to get more Swords Dances up.

Gliscor absorbs potential fighting attacks from Heracross, and can KO with Aerial Ace or set up in its face. He also takes in Electric attacks aimed at Skarmory and Tentacruel.

Alright, that's it. I really am looking for help with a possible replacement for Gliscor, unless you think he is fine where he is. Thanks for taking the time to read if you did.
 
Alright, I love Tyranitar personally, but as a lead it loses to Metagross and Swampert. I suggest Crunch over Earthquake or Aqua Tail. Right now you have Stone Edge and Pursuit for STABs. One has 80% accuracy and the other has 40 BP. If you need to hit something neutrally, you're between a rock and a hard place.

Zapdos and Skarmory are fine.

Fire Blast on Heatran. Naive (+Spd, -SDef) nature so that Explosion isn't weakened and it lowers the generally less important defense, in OU at least.

Use HP Electric or Rest on Tentacruel. HP Electric isn't good on Starmie or Vaporeon, as they have recovery and you don't. SubPetaya Empoleon will use it to set up on you anyway (if it manages to get off an Agility, you'll outspeed beforehand). Rest is Tentacruel's only form of recovery, but it really isn't great without Sleep Talk and that means you need to get rid of your other moves. Rest also isn't useful in stalling out other bulky waters, really, as they'll probably win anyway. I would suggest HP Electric.

Give Gliscor a 252HP/40 Def/216 Speed spread. He takes physical hits very well already. He's one of the few defensive mons with nice, useable speed, so use it. Stone Edge > Aerial Ace unless you're having trouble with Breloom.

Leftovers is generally better than Yache Berry, I think. Just switch him out of Ice attacks. If you think the lack of Yache Berry hinders his sweeping ability, then throw it back on.

Your ability is Hyper Cutter. Tyranitar brings sand, so you'll want Sand Veil. With Swords Dance, Intimidate doesn't matter much and you'll be OHKOing the majority of Intimidate users anyway with +1 Stone Edge (Gyara, Mence).

An alternative spread is Jolly with 252 HP/40 Atk/216 Def. This outspeeds Jolly Lucario and OHKOs with Earthquake. It also will have a little more likelihood of a sweep and doesn't lose much of its defensive capabilities. I use this and it really does have nice sweeping potential, which is nice on a Pokemon that takes hits as well as Gliscor.
 
To be honest I think this team needs a Blissey. If I were you I'd replace Gliscor with WishBliss, seeing as Gliscor doesn't fit with this team very well. Other than that it's pretty good.
 
Greg- thanks, I'll definately think about that. It was very useful.

locopoke- Why a WishBliss? And that would make me have skarmbliss which is kinda noob, but I was actually thinking of Swampert. He's hard to take down and provides a nice water move of some sort.

If you comment, please comment on replacing Gliscor with Swampert.
 
You need to change EQ for Crunch. You will find the powerful STAB move useful to take down Psychics and Ghosts.

In the last slot I suggest a spin blocker, a ghost in other words. The reason being is that you are setting up all these things but they will be spun away easily. I suggest using a Rotom-A, Spiritomb or even Mismagius can work very well.
 
I'll consider Spiritomb, thanks. But I've been testing it a bit more, and in one of the matches I got swept by a DD mence with 1 DD up. Zapdos was gone, which shows that DD mence could be a problem. Skarm died from Fire Blast =/

Anyways, EQ hits alot for me and it's useful when predicting switches or something. I'll consider it though.
 
I believe this team's biggest weaknesses are certain special attackers (mainly Water types, like Offensive Suicune) and definitely Offensive Gyarados. Your only choice would be to explode with heatran if Gyarados is the last poke on their team. very risky....next, special attackers like Zapdos will quickly wear you down. You may as well throw all 252 EVs in SDef. So 252Atk/252SDef/6HP.

Gliscor is actually pretty important in that it counters Tyranitar. Tbh, Gliscor doesn't provide a lot of defense. It really doesn't counter all that much else.. If you choose to switch to Blissey, beware of a late-game DDTar. It WILL sweep you.

To remedy weaknesses such as this, you'll want to utilize an attack on Skarmory. I might actually keep Gliscor, but then put Stealth Rock on it. Give Brave Bird or Drill Peck to Skarmory so you can get a little more insurance against Gyarados and other physical tanks.

Overall, I like the team but with Tentacruel, Skarmory, Zapdos, etc. it seems like a mediocre Stall Team. You don't really have a good late-game sweeper (I don't think that Gliscor is too good at late-game sweeping.) It seems that your best way of winning is to get the Rocks/Spikes up and stall them out with what you have. Personally, I would just try and go all out Stall on this type of team, but I could be wrong, so w/e.

Good luck on the team!
 
1) I would say that you use at least... 20 EVs on speed on Zappy, since with that (Im not sure) you outspeed 252 Speed Adamant Metagross, so you can kill it with Heat Wave before he does several damage with Ice Punch.

2) Change items of Skarm to Shed Shell, Magnezone is rampant!

3) You could change the Gliscor to Lucario OR Scizor. IMO Scizor is better. You get one of the most powerful priority moves in OU. You got 3 resists to Fire, so it could be a nice sweeper. Try with the SD Scizor.
Lucario adds another Ground weakness to your team, but its awesome since you have 0 Fighting attacks, so a STAB CC can help you with Blissey if T-tar is down.

4) HP Electric is a better option IMO. Sub Petaya Empoleon can sweep this team with blinding power, so doing a little bit of damage could help (and it will have a harder time vs Tenta).

Thats pretty much everything i can think of
 
Although it's good to see creativity, I'm not sure if leading with Tyranitar is the best idea. People generally use Hippowdon as a lead for Sandstorm teams, as it is more bulky, has access to reliable healing, and comes out on top against Heatran and Metagross (two of the most common leads I see nowadays). CB Tar puts large dents in lots of things, but is best to be used mid-to-late-game IMO. Hippowdon could provide extra bulk and is useful for phazing early on. Still, Tar isn't too bad because it's unpredictable (especially as a lead), and many other leads might even try to Taunt it (you still lose to status leads, however).

You also definitely need a Ghost to act as a spin blocker. It depends on what your team needs more, which I think is attacking power. Any of the Rotom appliances work fine (Rotom-H scares off Scizor and Lucario, but you're pretty well covered thanks to ScarfTran), bulky ghosts like Dusknoir, or even frail, hard-hitting ones like Gengar. Gliscor isn't really needed, so a Ghost should definitely replace it.
 
Thanks. I'll consider Dusknoir, although I do agree that I need something to hit hard. Maybe a CB Scizor?

I really need a wall breaker here because all I really have is Skarm to Whirlwind them x.x I have a tough time taking Swamperts down alot, and when Ttar is down, my only counter to Blissey is the poison from toxic spikes, and Blissey usually switches after a Softboiled.

Please help me with this problem :F
 
Pory said:
Thanks. I'll consider Dusknoir, although I do agree that I need something to hit hard. Maybe a CB Scizor?

I really need a wall breaker here because all I really have is Skarm to Whirlwind them x.x I have a tough time taking Swamperts down alot, and when Ttar is down, my only counter to Blissey is the poison from toxic spikes, and Blissey usually switches after a Softboiled.

Please help me with this problem :F
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3) You could change the Gliscor to Lucario OR Scizor. IMO Scizor is better. You get one of the most powerful priority moves in OU. You got 3 resists to Fire, so it could be a nice sweeper. Try with the SD Scizor.
Lucario adds another Ground weakness to your team, but its awesome since you have 0 Fighting attacks, so a STAB CC can help you with Blissey if T-tar is down.
 
Well, alot of people use skarmbliss so don't feel noob.

You are playing OU which means anything goes.

So for Gliscor, WishBliss would be the best option.
 
Well, Bliss gives me another fighting weakness, and can't deal damage. An SD Lucario is actually kind of good, but it's either him or Scizor. I actually tried Lucario in place of Zapdos, and it did well but i'm pretty sure I was facing a noob since he swept 5 pokemon >_>
 
Put 80 Speed EVs on Tyranitar AND Crunch. CB Tar with out Crunch is not a CB Tar. :/. Put HP Ice and 307 Stat speed on Zapdos to outrun Lucario, Porygon-Z and MixMence Rash. And no, Zapdos is NOT a Gyarados counter. After a SRock damage, it takes OHKO with a +1 Stone Edge, that's why Rotom is better, defensive Rotom can easy take a Waterfall and kill it with TBolt or make useless with TWave or WoW. Put a Rotom-A > Zapdos you get a spin blocker, and a surefire Gyarados counter. And yes, put WishBliss > Gliscor, so you earns a special sponge, you have none. A team with out special sponge is vunerable by SpecsJolteon and Starmie. YES, yes, Tyranitar can pursuit then, but really you don't have anything to switch in LO Surf Starmie and SpecsJolteon.

Also, where is the SR? You don't have stealth rock. So replace Tyranitar for a Trick SR Jirachi, wich is a good Anti-Lead, and FLINCH FLINCH FLINCH. You really don't need Pursuit anything, Azelf suicide is taked by the future Rotom. Starmie and Jolteon is taked by the Blissey, Celebi is fucked by Heatran if you don't switch in a Earth Power. TWave less Cress is taked out by Heatran, and Jirachi can Trick it making it useless.

Another thing: Shufflers, you are making a stall team, and you have only 1 shuffler, Skarmory. Then you can put RestTalk Gyara > Tentacruel. Toxic Spikes is not good because the metagame is dominated by steels and levitate dragons. You still counters Infernape, and you PHazer most things.

Another problem: New Mixmence. He simple is THE_THREAT for stall teams. You need something to switch out. So put Ice Punch on the lead Jirachi, to Revenge Kill it.

The final team will be:

Jirachi @Choice Scarf
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 80 HP / 252 Atk / 176 Spe
Jolly Nature
~ Ice Punch
~ Stealth Rock
~ Trick
~ Iron Head / Zen HeadButt

Rotom-Wash @Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 SAtk
Bold Nature
~ Shadow Ball
~ Thunderbolt / Rest / Reflect
~ Sleep Talk / Thunder Wave
~ Will-o-wisp

Skarmory @ Shed Shell (To don't get trapped by Mag).
Ability: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 216 Def /40 SDef
Impish nature
~ Whirlwind
~ Spikes
~ Brave Bird
~ Roost

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 SDef
Impish nature
~ Waterfall
~ Roar
~ Rest
~ Sleep Talk

Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 Spe / 252 SpA / 4 Atk
Navie Nature
~ Fire Blast
~ Earth Power
~ Dragon Pulse
~ Explosion

Blissey @Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature
~ Seismic Toss
~ Toxic
~ Wish
~ Protect


Please, someone tell me if making this team he will get a huge big weak. D:
 
Ok I made a minor change and put SR > Swords Dance on Gliscor, and it's been effective in destroying Salamence.

Please continue to rate!
 
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