Azelf (Physical Lead) [QC 0/3] [GP 0/2]

dragonnite

[SET]
name: Physical Lead
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Ice Punch
move 4: Explosion
item: Life Orb
ability: Levitate
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p> In spite of the fact that the notion of lead disappeared, this set, however effective rest and it's a good surprise. With the immense attack, movepool and speed of Azelf, a set of sweeper is largy possible with Stealth Rock. With Explosion, who is the powerful attack on the game, Azelf 2HKO all Pokemon without resistance to normal type. A lot of Pokemon are OHKO with. U-turn is for scout, it's hepful again Tyranitar who is big threar for Azelf, Latios takes a lot and Celebi is nearly OHKO. Ice Punch is for take care of Dragonite and Latios who are powerful. Stealth Rock is for the support of the team, because of Azelf hight speed, he is hard to taunt so he can pose Stealth Rock almost all the time. </p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The repartition is very easy to understand, maximum in speed and attack for have an easy sweep.</p>

<p>There aren't a lot of possibes changes, just one, Fire Blast with 4 EVs in Special Attack is possible over Ice Punch but Azelf with Fire Blast can't do something to Dragonite who can set-up and do a lot of damage after.</p>
 
QC Approvals: AccidentalGreed, PK Gaming, Pocket
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Forgive me for being sceptical, but I highly doubt that this is the case.

[SET]
name: Physical Lead
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Ice Punch
move 4: Explosion
item: Life Orb
ability: Life Orb
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 SAtk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
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To be fair, if Azelf had the ability to use a second Life Orb, it might be OU. :3
 
When, and how, was this QC approved? It's a new thread with no QC approvals, and something tells me you didn't contact the QC team privatelty/on IRC and get approved. If that's the case, you shouldn't have written it up already. Not that it really matters since it's atrocious.
 
dragonnite, add the Quality Control tag by "Edit" -> "Go Advanced" -> "Quality Control"

What you need to emphasize is what this set does better than the Dual Screen Azelf lead. For one this set establishes an immediate offensive pressure, and despite being a lead, has a potential to weaken walls with Explosion.

Although, twash used Ice Punch, I don't think it's the best overall move for the set - it just happened to fit his style or team better. I feel that either Fire Blast or Zen Headbutt / Psyshock is more useful here. Fire Blast hits the ubiquitous Steel-types super-effectively, preventing them from sponging an Explosion. Zen Headbutt / Psyshock receives STAB, and is useful for checking Terrakion, Virizion, Mienshao, and Gengar. Right now, Fire Blast / Psyshock seems to deserve the 3rd slot imo, while Ice Punch goes to AC, but not too certain.

Try this set for yourself and see how it works. Perhaps try it over your Metagross in the team you posted on RMT :d
 
tbh, I don't like this set very much at all. For starters, your current set gets utterly destroyed by pretty much any common steel in OU. You don't have Taunt so Deoxys D can set up along side you, and it doesn't mind taking a U-Turn. Personally, id rather run Fire Blast over Ice Punch so that your less of a set up fodder (although Heatran does'nt really give a shit regardless) and because you can do a bit to Dragonite with Explosion, and while it survives and dds up, you broke its MultiScale and get a free switch in for your revenge killer.

Really though, this just looks like a standard LO Azelf with Stealth Rock slashed in somewhere. There is also a "lead" Azelf onsite which is less set up fodder than your set and does a better job of getting up Stealth Rock.
 
Some of you guys are so kind to new users -_-

Anyway, the set on site kinda sucks... Taunt is a poor choice of move in most battles when compared to Azelf's other options, and Focus Sash on Azelf is overrated. Lack of Explosion (despite a rather disappointing comment) is pretty eh. The set definitely needs to be changed imo.

Azelf should be abusing any chance to get in and either Stealth Rock or U-turn. In a metagame full of 280-353 Spe Pokes and Ground attacks, this is easier than it sounds. On this set, you should also worry less about what walls Azelf and more about what screws up your team as a whole. You should abuse the quick pixie in a sense that it should check things that worry you elsewhere. Get rid of Taunt from the on site set, it's not as useful as you think because most hazard layers aren't coming in on Azelf (in fear of that probably hidden fourth move), or they will kill you regardless. I wouldn't worry about being "set up fodder" to a select minority of Pokemon, Taunt just for those few is pretty lame. Focus Sash sucks because you lose the power on your attacks, which is pretty huge - especially on Explosion which on an offensive team is a complete godsend. It really cannot be underestimated... It is fabulous to know all game that you have Explosion, and that you just need to pick the right turn to do a metric fuckton of damage. Focus Sash is also sucky against pretty much any sand team, and plus Azelf shouldn't be designated to the lead spot which means it might not even get in with its Sash in tact.

The set should probably look something like:

[SET]
name: Stealth Rock
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: U-turn
move 3: Explosion
move 4: Zen Headbutt / Fire Blast / Ice Punch
item: Life Orb
ability: Levitate
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

All three fourth slot moves are as viable as each other, it just depends what your team wants. Azelf should run Naive with 4 SpA if using Fire Blast, it will OHKO 252 HP Scizor in rain after Stealth Rock damage. Actually Jolly will almost all of the time too, but it loses some power against Jirachi and so on. It's kind of a tough one with Hasty/Naive, but Naive is generally better imo (you just have to be more careful switching into weaker Scalds and so on). Only 4 SpA because you want a strong Explosion.

If you want any help with getting to fit the rules a bit better as well as being a bit longer/informative, feel free to PM me or something and we can work on it.
 
Yea, twash's set looks great - just slash Naive as one of its nature for Fire Blast.

twash, if you could help dragonnite write the set description, that would be amazing!
 
dragonnite, I apologize for saying it was atrocious. twash is right, that was uncalled for. I was annoyed when it looked like you were trying to scam this through QC by saying that it was already approved, but then it occured to me that you probably just copy pasted a skeleton and forgot to remove that part. Anyway, the set is good, although I would make Zen Headbutt the primary slash for an offensive move, since it has good power with STAB, and can flinch. Fire Blast is good for steels, and ice punch for coverage. heck, just make it like twash's set
 
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