Resource Battle Stadium Singles Regulation B / C: Paradox Pandemonium! (Speed Tiers and more inside!)

[Theorymon]

Battle Stadium Singles Series 2

This thread is the place for both resources on the format, and updates for newly uploaded content on Smogon! So go ahead and watch this thread if you're into that kind of stuff!

Note, legendary ruins and Pokemon not in the Paldea Dex are still banned. So sorry folks, you can use Iron Bundle, but no Chi-Yu, Quagsires, or Charmanders allowed!

While this metagame has not started yet, you CAN challenge people to the format on Pokemon Showdown, so feel free to playtest stuff with people like me!

Viability Rankings

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-bss-regulation-b-viability-rankings.3717293/

Analyses

https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/formats/bss-series-2/​

 

[Theorymon]

SPEED TIERS
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Time to get to know those time traveling speedsters! They sure got some weird speed tiers...

That's where the Speed Tiers will help! I have a chart here that lists the speeds of a TON of mons! You can use ctrl+f (or whatever search function your device uses) to quickly check up what speeds a foe is likely to have. Alternately, you can use these handy charts to craft your own custom EV spreads! I put Pokemon that are likely to be important speed tiers in Bold Red for Speed, and Bold for the important Pokemon in question.

Also: Don't read this like a viability list. For example, I sorta doubt stuff like Cyclizar or Farigiraf will be important to Battle Stadium Singles, but stuff like that is included in case you run into some weird teams on the ladder!

Tier 0: Choice Scarf Quark Drive Iron Bundle to +1 Dragonite​

Speed	+Speed 252 EVs	Neutral 252 EVs
534	Iron Moth (+2 and Quark Drive)
463	Iron Bundle (Choice Scarf + Quark Drive)
460	Flutter Mane (Choice Scarf + Protosynthesis)
423	Roaring Moon (Choice Scarf + Protosynthesis)
414	Iron Valiant (Choice Scarf + Quark Drive)
412	Barraskewda (Swift Swim)
402	Scream Tail (Choice Scarf + Protosynthesis)
400	Iron Moth (Choice Scarf + Quark Drive)
396	Iron Jugulis (Choice Scarf + Quark Drive)
388	Iron Treads (Choice Scarf + Quark Drive)
380	Cyclizar (+2)
376		Barraskewda (Swift Swim)
374	Hawlucha (Unburden)
356	Iron Moth (+2)
344	Espathra (+2)
340		(Unburden)
319	Dragapult (+1 or Choice Scarf)
312	Revavroom (+2)
309	Iron Bundle (Choice Scarf or Quark Drive)
307	Flutter Mane Chien Pao (Choice Scarf or Protosynthesis)
300	Jolteon (Quick Feet)
291		Dragapult (+1 or Choice Scarf)
290	Glalie (+2)
288	Meowscarada (Choice Scarf)
284		Revavroom (+2)
282	Roaring Moon (Choice Scarf or Protosynthesis or +1)	Iron Bundle (Choice Scarf)
280		Flutter Mane (Choice Scarf)
278	Scovillain (Chlorophyll or +2)
276	Iron Valiant (Choice Scarf or Quark Drive)	Hawlucha (Unburden)
274	Cetitan (Slush Rush)
273		Jolteon (Quick Feet)
268	Scream Tail (Protosynthesis or Choice Scarf)Cloyster (+2) Maushold (+1) Polteageist (+2)
267	Iron Moth (Choice Scarf or Quark Drive)
264	Iron Jugulis (Choice Scarf or Quark Drive) Houndstone (Sand Rush)
262		Meowscarada (Choice Scarf)
259	Iron Treads (Quark Drive or Choice Scarf)
258	Espathra (+1)Pawmot (Choice Scarf)
256		Roaring Moon (Choice Scarf or +1)
253	Garchomp (Choice Scarf)
252	Sandy Shocks (Choice Scarf or Protosynthesis)	Iron Valiant (Choice Scarf)
250	Chi-Yu Salamence Volcarona Palafin (all +1 or Choice Scarf)	Cetitan (Slush Rush)
247	Hydreigon (Choice Scarf)
244	Haxorus (+1 or Choice Scarf)	Cloyster (+2) Polteageist (+2)
243	Mimikyu (Choice Scarf or +1)
240		Houndstone (Sand Rush)
234	Annihilape (Choice Scarf) Brute Bonnet (+2) Flamigo (Choice Scarf)
232	Vivillon (+1)
228	Baxcalibur (+1) Great Tusk (Choice Scarf or Protosynthesis)	Chi-Yu (Choice Scarf)
226	Rotom formesGlimmora (all Choice Scarf)
225	Quaquaval Ceruledge (+1 or Choice Scarf)
223	Gholdengo (Choice Scarf)
219	Slither Wing (Choice Scarf)Gyarados (+1)
217	DragoniteGallade Medicham Glalie (all +1 or Choice Scarf)

Tier 1: +Spe Dragapult to Neutral Hawlucha​

Speed	+Speed 252 EVs	Neutral 252 EVs
213	Dragapult
208	Scovillain Toxtricity Armarouge (all +1 or Choice Scarf)	Baxcalibur (+1)
206	Iron Bundle
205	Flutter Mane Chien-Pao
204	Iron Thorns (+1)	Gholdengo (Choice Scarf)
201	Breloom (Choice Scarf)
200	Jolteon
198		Dragonite (+1)
194		Dragapult
192	MeowscaradaScizor (+1) Gothitelle (Choice Scarf) Pelipper (Choice Scarf) Frosmoth (+1)
190	Cyclizar
188	Roaring Moon	Iron Bundle
187	Hawlucha	Flutter Mane Chien-Pao
186	Tyranitar (+1)	Iron Thorns (+1)
185	Salazzle
184	Iron Valiant
182		Jolteon
179	Scream TailMaushold
178	Iron MothEspeon Gengar Lycanrock-D
176	Iron Jugulis
175	Brute Bonnet (+1)	Scizor Gothitelle Pelipper Frosmoth (all +1 or Choice Scarf)
173	Iron Treads
172	Espathra Pawmot
171		Roaring Moon
170		Hawlucha

Tier 2: +Speed Garchomp to +Speed Quaquaval​

Speed	+Speed 252 EVs	Neutral 252 EVs
169	Garchomp	Tyranitar (+1)
168	Sandy Shocks	Iron Valiant
167	Volcarona Salamence Palafin Chi-Yu
165	Hydreigon
163	Haxorus
162	Mimikyu
161	Arcanine
160	Tinkaton
156	Annihilape Flamigo Revavroom Lucario
155	Vivillon
152	Baxcalibur Great Tusk	Chi-YuVolcarona Salamence Palafin
151	Rotom formes Glimmora
150	Quaquaval Ceruledge	Hydreigon

Tier 3: +Speed Gholdengo to Neutral Speed Magnezone​

Speed	+Speed 252 EVs	Neutral Speed 252 EVs	Neutral 4 Speed EVs
149	Gholdengo	Haxorus
148		Mimikyu
147		Arcanine
146	Slither WingGyarados	Tinkaton
145	Dragonite Medicham Gallade Glalie Goodra
142		Annihilape Lucario Revavroom
139	Scovillain Toxtricity Armarouge	Baxcalibur Great Tusk
138		Rotom formes Glimmora
137	Cetitan
136	Iron Thorns	Gholdengo
134	Breloom Cloyster Wo-chienPolteageist
133		Slither Wing
132		Dragonite Medicham Gallade Glalie Goodra
128	Scizor Gothitelle Orthworm
127		Toxtricity Armarouge	Iron Treads
125		Cetitan
124	Tyranitar	Iron Thorns
123	MagnezoneAbomasnow
122		Breloom Wo-chien CloysterPolteageist
117	Brute Bonnet	Scizor Gothitelle Pelipper Frosmoth	Mimikyu
115			Tinkaton
113		Tyranitar
112		MagnezoneAbomasnow

Tier 4: 4 Speed EV Annihilape to 4 Speed EV Chansey​

Speed	Neutral 4 Speed EVs	-Speed 0 IV
111	Annihilape
108	Great Tusk Baxcalibur
107	Rotom formes Glimmora
106	Ceruledge Quaquaval
105	Gholdengo
102	Gyarados
101	Dragonite Goodra
91	Wo-Chien BreloomBisharp
89		Mimikyu
88	Corviknight
87	Skeledirge
86	Scizor Gothitelle Pelipper OrthwormFrosmoth
82	Tyranitar
81	Magnezone Abomasnow Grimmsnarl Sylveon Farigiraf
76	Blissey Dudunsparce Brute BonnetUrsaring
71	Kingambit Iron HandsAzumarillChansey

Tier 5: 4 Speed EV Hippowdon to -Speed 0 IV Clodsire​

Speed	4 Speed EVs Neutral	-Speed 0 IV
68	Hippowdon
66	Ting-LuRabsca Bellibolt
65	Dragalge	Houndstone
63		Scizor Gothitelle Skeledirge
60	Gastrodon
59		Tyranitar
58		Magnezone Abomasnow Grimmsnarl Sylveon Farigiraf
56	Garganacl Dondozo Toxapex
54	Bronzong	Brute BonnetBlissey Dudunsparce Ursaring
51	AmoongussSlowking Slowbro
50	Hatterene
49	Avalugg	Chansey Azumarill Kingambit Iron Hands
46		Hippowdon
45		Rabsca Ting-Lu
44		Dragalge
40	Clodsire Torkoal	Ursaring
39		Gastrodon
36		Garganacl Dondozo Toxapex
34		Bronzong
31		Amoonguss Slowking Slowbro
30		Hatterene
29		Avalugg
22		Clodsire Torkoal

 

[Theorymon]

Battle Stadium Series 2 Role Compendium

Here, we'll be doing some light analyses on common and uncommon roles in the metagame, and listing some Pokemon for you to use in said role!

Since things are early for the Series 2 metagame, we won't really divide roles on viability yet beyond what made sense in Series 1. Once things become more clear, we'll divide things into viability too!

ALSO: THIS IS NOT FINISHED YET! THIS IS JUST WHAT WE GOT SO FAR!

Hazards

Stealth Rock

Even in the fast paced world of 3v3, Stealth Rock can make plenty of sense on a team. While setting them up every game isn't a must, they're a huge help against Focus Sash foes and Dragonite alike.​

Defensive Stealth Rock Setters

These Pokemon are bulky options that are pretty reliable at getting Stealth Rock up, and even support in other ways.

Likely to be major

Hippowdon Garchomp Annihilape Great Tusk Clodsire Tinkaton Garganacl

Likely to be viable

Iron Treads Scream Tail Torkoal

Likely to be niche

Chansey Tyranitar DudunsparceOrthworm Mudsdale Gastrodon Krookodile

Offensive Stealth Rock Setters

These Pokemon often try to get Stealth Rock up by ANY means necessary, with many of them even using Focus Sash to guarantee it!

Likely to be major

Great Tusk Garchomp Glimmora

Likely to be viable

Hydreigon Kingambit

Likely to be niche

Sandy ShocksIron Thorns Lycanroc-D

Toxic Spikes

Toxic Spikes aren't really too common, and the good absorbers can make it tricky to use. However, it can be devestating against the right match-up, and the Pokemon that use them can do more than just that anyways! You got two categories: Defensive ones, and Offensive ones who just have the option of using Toxic Spikes (but don't always run it). And of course..​

Toxic Debris Setter (duh)

Glimmora

Defensive Toxic Spikes Setters

Likely to be major

Clodsire

Likely to be niche

Toxapex

Offensive Toxic Spikes Setters

Likely to be viable

Iron MothMeowscarada

Likely to be niche

Gengar Pincurchin

Spikes

Traditionally, Spikes have been a very rare hazard in Battle Stadium Singles, since they take time to be as effective compared to Stealth Rock, which can be a liability in a 3v3 environment. However, with the rise of Spikes Garchomp, clearly they have worth this generation! Generally, being able to use Stealth Rock as well is prefered, because Stealth Rock + Spikes do a lot of damage together!​

The Big One

Garchomp

Other potential, less common users

Clodsire Glimmora

Likely to be niche

Orthworm Sandy Shocks Iron Thorns

Rapid Spin

Back in previous generations, Rapid Spin used to be considered a waste of time, due to the fast paced nature of 3v3. However, with the rise of Spikes Garchomp, and the sheer power of Multiscale Dragonite, Rapid Spin is not as useless as it used to be! Don't expect it to be common, but it's something to keep in mind.​

Likely to be major

Great Tusk

Likely to be viable

Iron Treads Torkoal Glimmora (Mortal Spin)

Sticky Web
​

On paper, Sticky Web sounds like it could be quite powerful this generation.., but the distribution is NOT good right now. This is listed more out of obligation than something to prepare for. So if you really want to use Sticky Webs, these are your only options...

The one that might be usable?

Masquerain

Your other sad choices

Spidops Kricketune

Status, Disruption, and Debuffs

Sleep

Since Battle Stadium Singles does not have Sleep Clause, this is an extremely powerful status!​

Spore

It doesn't get much better than Spore, with its wonderful 100% accuracy!

Breloom Amoonguss Brute Bonnet

Yawn

Yawn's extra turn doesn't make it great at instant gratification, but its great at forcing switches and its wide learnpool makes it a major move!

Likely to be major

Hippowdon Dondozo Skeledirge Umbreon Sylveon

Likely to be viable

Torkoal Clodsire

Likely to be niche

Slowking Slowbro Dudunsparce Houndstone

Hypnosis

The 60% accuracy makes Hypnosis a very risky move, but the speedy Pokemon that can viably use it can be devestating if the lady luck is on their side!

Espathra Iron Valiant Gengar

Paralysis

Paralysis is a powerful speed control option that can last the whole match, and it has a fairly wide variety of viable users too!​

Thunder Wave

Likely to be major

Dragonite Gholdengo Tinkaton

Likely to be viable

Scream Tail Flutter Mane Hydreigon Gengar Dragapult Kingambit Mimikyu Umbreon Grimmsnarl Blissey Chansey

Likely to be niche

Bellibolt Gyarados Pincurchin Sandy Shocks Tyranitar

Glare

Not only is Glare more accurate than Thunder Wave, but it hits Ground-types too! But it has a very poor distribution...

The one good Glare user

Dudunsparce

Nuzzle

Since this is an attack, it can break Focus Sash and ignore Taunt! Nuzzle also has a very small distribution, though.

The major user

Pawmot

Other likely very niche users

Toxtricity Hatterene

Fling + Light Ball

Pikachu? Nah that thing sucks, the real use of Light Ball is to Fling it on foes, paralyzing Ground-types and Gholdengo! Note that Covert Cloak does block this effect though.

Likely to use it

Annihilape Blissey

Likely to be niche

Garchomp Garganacl Krookodile

Burn

Burns are somewhat risky to attempt inflicting since there isn't a 100% reliable way to do so, but halving Attack is so strong that it's worth considering!​

Will-O-Wisp

The one status move to inflict burn, though the 85% accuracy can be annoying...

Likely to be major

Skeledirge Volcarona Dragapult Rotom-W

Likely to be viable

Mimikyu Paldean Tauros-Fire Slither Wing Rotom-H

Likely to be niche

Gengar CeruledgeTorkoal Houndstone Arcanine

Fling + Flame Orb

This is a pretty rare combo, but it does give a few Pokemon a highly unexpected way to burn stuff!

Garganacl Blissey

Toxic Poisoning

This is a status that wears down foes like no other, but it's extremely limited distribution still makes it rather uncommon.​

Toxic

Likely to use it

Clodsire Toxapex

Unlikely to use it often

Gengar Glimmora

Fling + Toxic Orb / Poison Barb

Now this is a real rarity, but Fling + Toxic Orb DOES get some surprising status (or Poison Barb if you want regular poison in exchange for not getting status'd lol)

Garganacl Blissey

Ghost-type Curse

Cutting half your health might make Curse seem like an iffy move on Ghost-types, but it deals so much chip damage it can be worth it, especially if you're trying to sack your Pokemon anyways!​

Likely to be major

Mimikyu Dragapult Annihilape

Likely to be niche

Skeledirge Tera Ghost Garganacl Gengar

Leech Seed

Leech Seed has been an annoying status in the past, but the biggest users of it got smacked by dexit this gen.​

Most likely to sometimes use it.

Meowscarada

Uncommon Pokemon that might use it

Scovillain Arboliva

Taunt

The ability to shut down defense and support Pokemon makes Taunt very valuable!​

Likely to be major

Annihilape Corviknight Meowscarada

Likely to be viable

Flutter Mane Roaring Moon Great Tusk Iron Bundle Iron Valiant Kingambit Mimikyu Umbreon Ceruledge Gengar Quaquaval Hydreigon

Likely to be niche

Tyranitar Iron Thorns Gyarados Krookodile

Encore

Encore has proven itself to be a fairly debilitating move, so be prepared for it!​

Likely to be major

Dragonite Iron Bundle Scream Tail Tinkaton

Likely to be viable

Skeledirge Iron Valiant Annihilape Gengar Quaquaval Pawmot

Likely to be niche

Sableye Grafaiai

Trick / Switcheroo​

Choice Trick / Switcheroo

This is the bane of defensive Pokemon everywhere!

Likely to be major

Gholdengo Iron Valiant Rotom-W Rotom-H Mimikyu Meowscarada

Likely to be niche

Grimmsnarl Gengar Scream Tail Armarouge Slowking Slowbro Houndstone

Trick + Lagging Tail

This rather rare strategy is an interesting alternative to paralysis.

GholdengoBlissey Grimmsnarl Slowking

Knock Off

Besides being a pretty powerful move, this rare treat is great at removing important items!​

Likely to be major

Meowscarada Great Tusk Iron Treads Iron Valiant Tinkaton

Likely to be niche

Cyclizar

Trapping

Removing the ability to switch is quite powerful! However, the current ways of doing so are a bit limited outside of a few major options.​

Trapping Moves

Likely to be major

Dragonite (Fire Spin)

Likely to be viable

Roaring Moon (Jaw Lock + Shed Shell)

Trapping Abilities

You'd think trapping abilities would be REALLY scary, and they are... but the selection is rather limited this generation.

Likely to be niche

Gothitelle (Shadow Tag) Magnezone (Magnet Pull)

Likely to be VERY rare

Dugtrio (Arena Trap)

Disable

While not common, Disable can be horrifying against Choiced Pokemon, and in general is particularly effective at taking control of a foe.​

Likely to be major

Dragapult

Likely to be viable

Scream Tail

Likely to be niche

Iron Valiant Gengar Sableye

Cursed Body

Gengar Dual Screens Dragapult

Speed Debuffs

In the fast paced world of 3v3 battles, speed control attacks can be quite useful!​

Likely to be major

Annihilape (Bulldoze, Rock Tomb, Low Sweep) Breloom (Bulldoze, Rock Tomb) Glimmora (Mud Shot)

Likely to be viable

Garchomp (Bulldoze, Rock Tomb) Paldean Tauros-Fire (Rock Tomb) Hippowdon (Rock Tomb)

Offensive Debuffs

These aren't terribly common, but some Pokemon have good reasons for using it!​

Intimidate

This is by far the easiest way to debuff physical attack, even if the selection is not as good as you'd hope right now.

Likely to be viable

Salamence Paldean Tauros-Fire

Likely to be niche

Gyarados Paldean Tauros-Water Krookodile

Chilling Water

This isn't a terribly common move, but it sees a bit of use

Toxapex Bellibolt

Memento

This is a move to use if you are willing to go all-in on a specific set up for another Pokemon!

Likely to be viable

Glimmora Gholdengo

Likely to be niche

Pincurchin Rabsca

Defensive Debuffs

This is not something you'll see a lot of, but there is one interesting example to note!​

Acid Spray

Acid Spray won't help you sweep like say, Nasty Plot would, but its secret is that Unaware walls don't really like facing this move!

Likely to be viable

Iron Moth

Likely to be niche

Bellibolt

Stat Removal

These aren't particularly common, but Clear Smog and Haze are good options for the few defensive Pokemon that get them!
​

Clear Smog

Amoonguss

Haze

Toxapex

Offensive Roles

1-turn Set-up Sweepers

This is exactly what it says on the tin: these are very offensive Pokemon that only need one turn of set up to sweep! Note that some of these Pokemon can actually be bulky sweepers as well.​

Speed Boosting

Since these boosts tend to be a bit lighter on the offensive side, a lot of these tend to be more late game sweepers than something you see breaking walls.

Likely to be major

Dragon Dance: Dragonite Baxcalibur Dragapult Roaring Moon

Quiver Dance: Volcarona

Booster Energy: Flutter Mane Iron Valiant Roaring Moon

Likely to be viable

Dragon Dance: Salamence

Speed Boost: Calm Mind Espathra

Shell Smash: Cloyster

Speed Boosting Attack: Rapid Spin Great Tusk Moxie Quaquaval Trailblaze Brute Bonnet

Likely to be niche

Dragon Dance: GyaradosTyranitar Iron Thorns Haxorus

Weak Armor: Ceruledge Armarouge

Booster Energy: Iron Jugulis

Mainly Offensive Boosting

Likely to be major

Swords Dance: Garchomp Kingambit Mimikyu Iron Valiant Baxcalibur

Nasty Plot: Gholdengo Rotom-W

Bulk Up: Great Tusk

Calm Mind: Flutter Mane

Likely to be viable

Swords Dance:Scizor Breloom Quaquaval Iron Hands

Nasty Plot: Hydreigon

Bulk Up: Slither Wing

Calm Mind: Iron Valiant Espathra Sylveon

Likely to be niche

Swords Dance: CeruledgeTinkaton GalladeHaxorus

Nasty Plot: Gengar

Bulk Up / Coil: Paldean Tauros-Fire Paldean Tauros-Water Dudunsparce

Calm Mind: Armarouge Dudunsparce

Work Up: Iron Jugulis

Bulky Sweepers

These Pokemon take the tortoise's side: slow and steady set-ups win the race! These Pokemon usually aim to get multiple boosts before they attempt to sweep, thanks to major bulk investment.​

Likely to be major

Bulk Up: Annihilape Great Tusk

Curse: Dondozo

Dragon Dance: Dragonite

Quiver Dance: Volcarona

Iron Defense + Body Press: Corviknight Garganacl

Attacking move: Skeledirge (Torch Song, and sometimes Flame Charge)

Likely to be viable

Bulk Up: Slither Wing Quaquaval Corviknight

Curse: Garganacl Clodsire

Dragon Dance: Roaring Moon

Calm Mind: Sylveon Stored Power Espathra

Iron Defense + Body Press: Iron Treads Iron Hands

Likely to be niche

Bulk Up: Ceruledge Scream Tail

Curse:Tyranitar

Calm Mind:Blissey Scream Tail Gothitelle

Iron Defense + Body Press: Orthworm

 

[Theorymon]

Finally, this will be... I dunno yet, whatever cool ideas we think of that we want everyone to see, might go here someday!

 

[StarkGod]

Bonnet bros... it's time.

 

[DerpySuX]

Time paradox detected!!

 

[Theorymon]

Bonnet bros... it's time.

For those that don't know: there's a reason I put +1 and +2 Brute Bonnet in the speed tiers. The Speed stat might be low, but some of us got WRECKED by Trailblaze Brute Bonnet back in November. It actually outspeeds some decent stuff, and that fast Spore can be pretty vicious with no Sleep Clause!

I'm unsure if Brute Bonnet will be a major shaping force of the metagame per se, but: it is HORRIFYING to face if you don't have a game plan for Speed boosted Spores, so it's at least something to keep in mind!

 

[Thick Fat Azumarill]

is it worth it to include +3 Iron Moth in there? it gets Agility :mish: or maybe include Agility with Quark Drive + Scarf

 

[Theorymon]

is it worth it to include +3 Iron Moth in there? it gets Agility :mish: or maybe include Agility with Quark Drive + Scarf

First off, you already know this but for everyone else: I added Agility Iron Moth! That thing goes stupid fast lol.

The other news: I got the first section of the Roles Compendium up: Hazards!

There will be WAY more than this soon, like dual screens, set up sweepers, encore, etc. But this is just a taste right now.

Please let me know if there's anything you feel should be added, or what you think of the formatting / style, since this isn't quite the same as other role compendiums.

 

[Omastar68]

That's really cool Rapid Spin can be a thing now. The spe boost and long time ago damage buff make it seem vaguely ok to me.

 

[Theorymon]

Big update: I've now added Status, Disruption, and Debuff stuff to the Role compendium!

This covers a TON of stuff, so let me know if I missed something!

 

[Omastar68]

Wow. I think clear smoggers could be a thing but idk. For all I know I missed it, done that before. What is wrong w/ Sandaconda? For a 2nd glare user. I mean it's not great I suppose...but meh.

It does get rest Shed Skin and IronPress.

 

[Theorymon]

Wow. I think clear smoggers could be a thing but idk. For all I know I missed it, done that before. What is wrong w/ Sandaconda? For a 2nd glare user. I mean it's not great I suppose...but meh.

It does get rest Shed Skin and IronPress.

Oh good point about Clear Smog, I've now added that and Haze!

As for Sandaconda: I actually am likely to test that at some point because of Glare and Sand Spit being cool, but I'm colder on it than last gen because, the whole reason I had some success with it was because I used it with Excadrill, who got smacked by dexit this gen. Houndstone is sorta workable, but it just feels like an idea that is both untested and not "well this seems obvious".

 

[Omastar68]

Cool, thanks for explaining. I think Arboliva can be in leech seed category.

 

[Theorymon]

I've now added Offensive roles to the roles compendium! Note I'll add a mixed attacking / maybe wall breaking section later too, but for now it focuses on set up sweepers.

Other stuff that will be coming soon includes: instant recovery, dual screens, pivot moves, priority moves / prankster, shed tail , baton pass, OHKO moves, choice mons, weather mons, and trick room setters

As usual, let me know if I missed anything! I'll be working overtime to try to get most of this done before Series 2 starts in 2-3 days!

 

[Thick Fat Azumarill]

I was reading through this and I noticed the Role Compendium is missing Iron Moth in speed boosting(Booster Energy), and spa boosting(Fiery Dance), and Volcarona is also missing there. I'd maybe put Iron Treads alongside Great Tusk in speed boosting via Rapid Spin as well.

 

[Omastar68]

Could dual screens/veil be a category? So sorry if I missed it, I've done that before lol.

I feel like I didn't miss it though. Aside from more obvious ones like Pult and Scream Tail, I think Sandy Shocks could be there.

 

[Theorymon]

Could dual screens/veil be a category? So sorry if I missed it, I've done that before lol.

I feel like I didn't miss it though. Aside from more obvious ones like Pult and Scream Tail, I think Sandy Shocks could be there.

Yeah there will def be a dual screen section. I've fallen behind ironically because of analyses. This weekend I will def be updating some stuff!

Also, I would like to know: do you folks prefer text next to the minisprites, or would you prefer minisprites that link to the dex with no text?

 

[Omastar68]

Idk about that, but for offensive debuffs,
could strength sap be a category? I loved it on Arboliva, and still love it on Drifblim. Polteageist gets it too. Speaking of Drifblim, I think it could be a clear smogger too. I think it's Viable cause of rabsca on here.

It's good there's a Taunt section. Could Mental Herb be a section? Cause mostly idk what would EVER run it, it's sorta niche. But it's also definitely not unviable.

 

[A Crayfish]

Really useful list, thanks for putting in the work! But I think that the Hawlucha Unburden speed tiers are a bit off. With an adamant nature it reaches 340 speed, making it significantly faster than on this list.

 

[Theorymon]

Really useful list, thanks for putting in the work! But I think that the Hawlucha Unburden speed tiers are a bit off. With an adamant nature it reaches 340 speed, making it significantly faster than on this list.

Forgot to mention this, but I did infact address this a little while ago!

Anyways I added the 4 Ruins. To be clear this is a temp measure: there will be a NEW Speed Tier list for Regulation C that will be fully searchable with your browser's find functions, to make it easier to find stuff! But that's gonna take a bit of time, so I did do the minor updates for now at least! Similar deal with the Role Compendium.

 

[Omastar68]

Rocky Helmet is kinda a hazard, I think a section w/ users of it wouldn't hurt.