[Battling 101] Mentor Frosty vs Pupil Toon - The Final Test

[Frosty]

Rules:
3v3 Singles
DQ: 48h
2 Recoveries, 5 Chills per mon
Two Substitutions per pokemon excluding KO Substitutions.
Switch = OK
Abilities = ALL
Items = OFF (except for rotom's appliances and 1 megastone btw)
Arena: ASB Tournament Arena
About Battling 101:The player has the right to fight the tutor in at most 3 battles (singles or doubles), being two 2vs2 and one 3vs3. In those battles the player can use either rentals, aka, copies of pokemon owned by registered players, or his own mons. The Tutor should respond with either rentals or pokemon of his own that match the level of the ones used by the player.

The battle will play out normally, with the tutor playing to win. During the match, the tutor should give tips on moves and what-not, but only after the player orders. Comment on why a certain strategy you/they used went right/wrong and why you/they won/lost the battle.

The Pupil isn't obligated to use all 3 battles, or to use them before or after registering. They can register their team and use the 3 battles to pratice with them. Or they can use the 3 battle solely to try on stuff. Or they can test with 2 matches, register a team and then use the last one as a final test. Or any other way that seems fit.

Team Toon:

Azul the Azumarill

Azumarill [♂] Azul
Types: Water/

Abilities: Thick Fat/Huge Power/Sap Sipper
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
Stats:
HP: 110
Atk: 3 [6 Huge Power] (+)
Def: 3
SpA: 1 (-)
SpD: 3
Spe: 50
Size Class: 2
Weight Class: 3
Base Rank Total: 16 [19 Huge Power]
EC: 9/9
MC: 1
AC: 5/5

Attacks:
Level Up
Tackle
Defense Curl
Rollout
Aqua Tail
Play Rough
Splash
Water Gun
Tail Whip
Water Sport
Bubble
Charm
Bubble Beam
Helping Hand
Slam
Bounce
Double Edge
Super Power

Egg
Body Slam
Encore
Refresh
Sing
Camouflage
Aqua Jet


TM/HM
Return
Facade
Waterfall
Rest
Sleep Talk
Protect
Frustration
Bulldoze
Knock Off
Ice Punch

Lucy the Ampharos

Ampharos [♀] Lucy
Types:

Abilities: Static/Plus
Nature: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
Stats:
HP: 100
Atk: 2 (-)
Def: 4 (+)
SpA: 4
SpD: 3
Spe: 55
Size Class: 3
Weight Class: 4
Base Rank Total: 18

Mega Ampharos

Mega Ampharos [♀] Lucy
Types:

/Dragon
Abilities: Static/Plus/Mold Breaker
Nature: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
Stats:
HP: 100
Atk: 2 (-)
Def: 5 (+)
SpA: 7
SpD: 4
Spe: 45
Size Class: 3
Weight Class: 4
Base Rank Total: 23

EC: 9/9
MC: 0
AC: 5/5

Attacks:
Level Up
Power Gem
Discharge
Light Screen
Signal Beam
Zap Cannon
Magnetic Flux
Ion Deluge
Dragon pulse
Fire Punch
Growl
Tackle
Thunder Wave
Thunder Shock
Cotton Spore
Charge
Take Down
Electro Ball
Confuse Ray
Egg
Body Slam
Eerie Impulse
After You
Agility
Electric Terrain
Counter
TM/HM
Focus Blast
Volt Switch
Electroweb
Thunderbolt
Protect
Round
Toxic
Substitute

Yuki the Froslass

Froslass [♀] Yuki
Types:

Ghost
Abilities: Snow Cloak/Cursed Body
Nature: Hasty (+15% Speed, +19% Accuracy, -1 Def)
Stats:
HP: 100
Atk: 3
Def: 2 (-)
SpA: 3
SpD: 3
Spe: 127 [+19% accuracy) (+)
Size Class: 3
Weight Class: 3
Base Rank Total: 19
EC: 6/6
MC: 8
AC: 5/5

Attacks:
Level Up
Destiny Bond
Astonish
Draining Kiss
Leer
Powder Snow
Double Team
Ice Shard
Ominous Wind
Confuse Ray
Icy Wind
Bite
Ice Fang

Egg
Disable
Switcheroo
Hex
Avalanche
Rollout

TM/HM
Ice Beam
Protect
Secret Power
Facade
Shadow Ball

Team Frosty

Armaldo

Armaldo (M)
Type: Bug/Rock
Abilities: Battle Armor/Swift Swim (U)
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)

Stats:
HP: 100
Atk: 6 (+)
Def: 4
SpA: 2 (-)
SpD: 3
Spe: 45
Size Class: 3
Weight Class: 4
Base Rank Total: 20
EC: 6/6
MC: 0
AC: 5/5

Attacks (37/76):

Ancient Power
Aqua Jet
Aqua Tail
Brine
Bug Bite
Bulldoze
Cross Poison
Crush Claw
Curse
Dig
Endure
Fury Cutter
Giga Impact
Harden
Iron Defense
Iron Tail
Knock Off
Low Kick
Metal Claw
Mimic
Mud Sport
Protect
Rapid Spin
Rest
Rock Blast
Rock Slide
Rock Tomb
Sand Attack
Scratch
Slash
Sleep Talk
Stealth Rock
Substitute
Superpower
Toxic
Water Sport
X-Scissor

Bellum the Rotom

Rotom [Bellum]
Nature: Modest (+SpA, -Atk)

Type: Ghost/Electric

Stats:

HP: 90
Atk: Rank 1(-1)
Def: Rank 3
SpA: Rank 4(+1)
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 91
Size Class: 1
Weight Class: 1
Base Rank Total: 16

Appliances

Rotom-H / Rotom-F / Rotom-W / Rotom-C [Bellum]
Nature: Modest (+SpA, -Atk)

Type: Fire/Electric | Ice/Electric | Water/Electric | Grass/Electric

Stats:

HP: 90
Atk: Rank 2 (-1)
Def: Rank 4
SpA: Rank 5(+1)
SpD: Rank 4
Spe: 86
Size Class: 2 | 4 | 3 | 2
Weight Class: 3 | 5 | 4 | 3
Base Rank Total: 20

MC: 0

Abilities: Levitate

Attacks (54/54 - Movepool Maxed):
Astonish
Charge
Charge Beam
Confide
Confuse Ray
Dark Pulse
Discharge
Double Team
Dream Eater
Electroball
Electroweb
Endure
Facade
Foul Play
Flash
Frustation
Hex
Hidden Power Grass
Light Screen
Mudslap
Natural Gift
Ominous Wind
Pain Split
Protect
Psych Up
Rain Dance
Reflect
Rest
Return
Round
Secret Power
Shadow Ball
Shock Wave
Signal Beam
Sleep Talk
Snatch
Snore
Spite
Substitute
Sucker Punch
Sunny Day
Swagger
Swift
Telekinesis
Thief
Thunder
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt
Thundershock
Toxic
Trick
Uproar
Volt Switch
Will-o-Wisp

Shadow Mend

appliance moves

Overheat
Hydro Pump
Blizzard
Leaf Storm

Phytops the Dragalge

Dragalge [F] [Phytops]
Types: Dragon/Poison

Abilities::
Poison Point/Poison Touch/Adaptability (H) [UNLOCKED]

Nature: Quiet (+1 SpA, -Spe, -10% evasion)

Stats:
HP: 100
Atk: 3
Def: 3
SpA: 5 (+)
SpD: 5
Spe: 38 (-)
Size Class: 3
Weight Class: 3
Base Rank Total: 20

EC: 6/6
MC: 0
AC: 5/5

Attacks (55/58):
Acid
Acid Armor
Aqua Tail
Attract
Bounce
Bubble
Camouflage
Confide
Dive
Double Team
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Dragon Tail
Facade
Faint Attack
Focus Blast
Frustration
Giga Impact
Gunk Shot
Hail
Haze
Hidden Power Ground
Hydro Pump
Hyper Beam
Icy Wind
Outrage
Play Rough
Poison Tail
Protect
Rain Dance
Rest
Return
Round
Scald
Shadow Ball
Secret Power
Sleep Talk
Sludge Bomb
Sludge Wave
Smokescreen
Substitute
Surf
Swagger
Tackle
Tail Whip
Thunder
Thunderbolt
Toxic
Toxic Spikes
Twister
Venom Drench
Venoshock
Water gun
Water Pulse
Waterfall

Bubble Shield
Chimaera Strike

Missing

XYTutors Iron Tail, Shock Wave and Snore

Final Singles Lesson: Matchups control!


Toon sends out pokemon
Frosty orders
Toon orders
I Ref

 

[Toon]

Yowch your team, let's see want can lucy bring to the battle

Lucy #Ampharosite

 

[Frosty]

Oh shoot you wanted to use Mega Ampharos. Sorry I forgot.

I changed the items rule to make one mega possible. You going for it?

 

[Toon]

yes :P

 

[Frosty]

Dragalge

Dragon Pulse - Dragon Pulse - Dragon Pulse
IF Evasive Agility THEN Sludge Wave
IF Light Screen AND not in a combo AND Ampharos does not have a substitute up THEN COMBO (Outrage + Outrage)

 

[Toon]

hmm mega and damage race OR dont mega and get out damaged race
to be mega or not to be mega, that is the question

EDIT: oh... adaptability

[NO mega]
Substitute (25)-> Light Screen -> Volt Switch

 

[Frosty]

Avoid using Substitute. This isn't ingame where a sub usually absorbs a crapload of hp. On the 2 actions I would deal 29.5hp of damage and you made it 25hp of damage, so you spent an action lowering the output by 4.5hp. Which isn't much. A simple protect would be cheaper and have a better result. Substitute is only worth it if you are blocking status, using focus punch of if you end up absorbing way more extra hp (like against a combo). Or if you used protect already.

Hp: 100
En: 100
2/4/4/3/55
Other:

Hp: 100
En: 100
3/3/5/5/38
Other:​

Round 1!​

DATA:

ACTION 1!

Ampharos used 25hp substitute! (-24en)

Dragalge used Dragon Pulse! (-6en)
Crit: 11 (no)
Damage: (9+5+3)= 17hp

ACTION 2!

Ampharos used Light Screen! (-10en)

Dragalge used Dragon Pulse! (-10en)
Crit: 3
Damage: (4.5+5+3)= sub faded!

ACTION 3!

Ampharos used Volt Switch! (-4en)
Crit: 15
Damage: (7+3-1.5)*0.67= 5.67hp

Dragalge used Dragon Pulse! (-14en)
Crit: 9
Damage: 4.5+5+3= 12.5hp

- - -

Light Screen for 4a

bench

Hp: 62
En: 61
2/4/4/3/55
Other:

Hp: 96
En: 70
3/3/5/5/38
Other:​

Toon
Frosty

 

[Toon]

#no item

Avalanche-> Avalanche -> Avalanche

IF Outrage is used THEN use disable (outrage) the action after and restart queue
IF Froslass has not been damaged by an attacked THEN use Ice Fang and push back

 

[Frosty]

That second sub is illegal. You can't say "by an attack". You can say "damaging water attack" or "damaging priority attack", but "an attack" (or in this case "damaging attack") isn't a valid term. Rule of thumb: if the sub can be replaced by "IF damaging attack THEN" it is illegal.

Also it is illegal (better: simply can't be triggered) because it messes with priorities. That is a tough one, but lemme try to explain. Dragalge will always act after Froslass acts at priority 0. Since Ice Fang is a 0 priority move, it will always be used before dragalge has moved, so dragalge can't hurt it before it happens. Every time you use a substitute not based on a specific attack (we call it "condition sub"), it will be checked when you tell it to. If you don't specify when it should be checked, it will be when froslass is to normally act. So this sub will be checked at priority -4 and by then priority 0 (when Ice Fang can happen) is long gone. Since ASB doesn't let a move be used outside its normal priority (sans combos or special abilities, items or arena effects), the sub simply can't activate.

did you get most of it? subs are complicated, so ask if you are in doubt.

Also I will be honest here: if you run the calcs you will notice that the best outcome comes from mega-ampharos. Sure it still is a very close damage race and dragalge actually deals slightly more damage. But once you add Light Screen and Ampharos's better speed, it ends up being your best bet vs dragalge.

Acid Armor - Dragon Tail - Toxic Spikes

- - -

Light Screen for 4a

Hp: 100
En: 100
3/2/3/3/127
Other:

bench

Hp: 62
En: 61
2/4/4/3/55
Other:

Hp: 96
En: 70
3/3/5/5/38
Other:​

Round 2!​

DATA:

ACTION 1!

Dragalge used Acid Armor! (-6en)
+2def
blocks physical moves

Froslass used Avalanche! (-7en)
blocked by Acid Armor

ACTION 2!

Froslass used Avalanche! (-11en)
Crit: 13 (no)
Damage: (6+3)*1.5-4= 9.5hp
Poison Point: 4 (no)

Dragalge used Dragon Tail! (-4en)
Hit: 79 (yes)
Crit: 7 (no)
Damage: (6+5+1.5)= 12.5hp

ACTION 3!

Dragalge used Toxic Spikes! (-6en)

Froslass used Avalanche! (-15en)
Crit: 12 (no)
Damage: (6+3)*1.5-4= 9.5hp
Poison Point: 8 (no)

Sends out: 2 (Ampharos)

- - -

Toxic Spikes
Light Screen for 1a

bench

Hp: 87
En: 67
3/2/3/3/127
Other:

Hp: 62
En: 61
2/4/4/3/55
Other:

Hp: 77
En: 54
3/3/5/5/38
Other: +2def​

Ampharos is sent out!

Frosty orders
Toon orders
I Ref

- - - -

Since I said what I said I suppose my only option is..

Switch Phase Initiated!
Dragalge OUT
Armaldo IN
Counterswitch?

 

[Toon]

Nah

#Ampharosite

 

[Frosty]

Don't be afraid to counterswitch. Look at your team. Azumarill has no business facing either Rotom or Dragalge, while it sure has all business facing Armaldo. I do know that accepting a counterswitch is usually a daunting move and can backfire easily. But in situations like this one, the risk is very well worth taking. Even if Ampharos wins in the end, the remaining matchups won't be that good for you, as with Ampharos out, Rotom and Dragalge will have a much easier day.

Armaldo: Bulldoze - Earthquake - Earthquake
IF Counter THEN Brine
IF Thunder Wave is to be used on this round THEN Replace Bulldoze with Earthquake

 

[Toon]

[MEGA EVOLVE]

i dont want to be slow

counter-> Power gem-> power gem

 

[Frosty]

fair enough

Toxic Spikes
Light Screen for 1a

bench

Hp: 87
En: 67
3/2/3/3/127
Other:

Hp: 62
En: 61
2/5/7/4/45
Other:

Hp: 100
En: 100
6/4/1/3/45
Other:

bench

Hp: 77
En: 54
3/3/5/5/38
Other: +2def

Round 3!
​

DATA:

Ampharos is poisoned due to toxic spikes!

ACTION 1!

Armaldo used Brine! (-8en)
Crit: 10 (no)
Damage: (7*0.5-4.5)*0.67= 1hp

Ampharos used Counter! (-6en)
-2hp

ACTION 2!

Ampharos used Power Gem! (-6en)
Crit: nope
Damage: (8+5.5)*1.5= 20.25hp
-2hp

Armaldo used Earthquake! (-7en)
Crit: 15 (no)
Damage: (10+1.5)*1.5= 17.25hp

ACTION 3!

Ampharos used Power Gem! (-10en)
Damage: 20.25hp
-2hp

Armaldo used Earthquake! (-11en)
Crit: 9 (no)
Damage: 17.25hp

- - -

Toxic Spikes

bench

Hp: 87
En: 67
3/2/3/3/127
Other:

Hp: 20
En: 39
2/5/7/4/45
Other: poisoned

Hp: 59
En: 74
6/4/1/3/45
Other:

bench

Hp: 77
En: 54
3/3/5/5/38
Other: +2def

Toon
Frosty
I Ref

​

 

[Toon]

Power Gem-> Power Gem-> Power Gem

IF Armaldo uses a damaging ground type combination THEN Protect, non-consecutive

IF Armaldo uses a speed-reducing move THEN use Power Gem+Power Gem

 

[Frosty]

oops


TBH ending against a pokemon in cooldown isn't a bad thing. In other notes, you probably couldn't avoid this outcome entirely:


Dig - Aqua Jet - Aqua Jet

- - -


Toxic Spikes

bench

Hp: 87
En: 67
3/2/3/3/127
Other:

Hp: 20
En: 39
2/5/7/4/45
Other: poisoned

Hp: 59
En: 74
6/4/1/3/45
Other:

bench

Hp: 77
En: 54
3/3/5/5/38
Other: +2def

Round 4!
​

DATA:

ACTION 1!

Ampharos used Power Gem! (-6en)
Damage: (8+5.5)*1.5= 20.25hp

Armaldo used Dig! (-10en)
Crit: 16 (no)
Damage: (8+1.5)*1.5= 14.25hp
Static: 2 (yes)

Armaldo is paralysed!

Ampharos lost 2hp due to poison

ACTION 2!

FP: 15/100 (yes)
Armaldo was fully paralysed!

Ampharos used Power Gem! (-6en)
Damage: (8+5.5)*1.5= 20.25hp
-2hp

ACTION 3!

FP: 19 (no)
Armaldo used Aqua Jet! (-4en)
Ampharos fainted!

- - -

Toxic Spikes

bench

Hp: 87
En: 67
3/2/3/3/127
Other:

Hp: KO
En: KO
2/5/7/4/45
Other: poisoned

Hp: 28
En: 60
6/4/1/3/45
Other: 5% Paralysis

bench

Hp: 77
En: 54
3/3/5/5/38
Other: +2def

Toon sends out pokemon with item
Frosty orders
Toon orders
I Ref

 

[Toon]

#no item

 

[Frosty]

switching to dragalge

 

[Toon]

counterswitch accepted

#No Item
Ice Fang -> Ice Fang -> Ice Fang
IF Outrage is used THEN use Disable (outrage) and restart queue
IF P/E THEN chill

 

[Frosty]

dat first sub tho
Dragon Tail - Outrage - Outrage

- - -




Toxic Spikes

Hp: 87
En: 67
3/2/3/3/127
Other:

bench

Hp: 28
En: 60
6/4/1/3/45
Other: 5% Paralysis

Hp: 77
En: 54
3/3/5/5/38
Other:​

Round 5!​

DATA:

Froslass was poisoned due to toxic spikes!

ACTION 1!

Froslass used Icy Fang! (-4en)
Crit:9
Flinch:6
Freeze:4
Damage: (7+3)*1.5= 15hp
-2hp

Dragalge used Dragon Tail! (-4en)
Hit:46
Crit:3
Damage: (6+5+1.5)= 12.5

ACTION 2!

Froslass used Disable! (-8en)
but it failed!
(since outrage wasn't used yet <_<)
-2hp

Dragalge used Outrage! (-7en)
Crit: 4
Damage: (12+5+1.5)= 18.5

ACTION 3!

Froslass used Disable! (-12en)
Outrage was disabled!
-2hp

Dragalge used Ourage!
but it failed!

Froslass returned to pokeball!

- - -

​

​

Toxic Spikes

bench

Hp: 50
En: 43
3/2/3/3/127
Other: poison

bench

Hp: 28
En: 60
6/4/1/3/45
Other: 5% Paralysis

Hp: 62
En: 43
3/3/5/5/38
Other: Outrage disabled for 5a
​

Azumarill is sent out!

- - -

Dragalge: Venoshock - Venoshock - Venoshock
IF Azumarill is under P/E THEN Chill
IF Azumarill is under D/E THEN Acid Armor on the first instance and Chill on the others


Toon

​

 

[Toon]

#No Item
Camouflage->Refresh->Ice Punch+Ice Punch

 

[Frosty]

Hmmm...nice. I just don't get the final combo. Two Ice Punches would deal more damage for less energy and you would stay have the opportunity to use other moves to prevent my offense now. While the combo temptation is hard to resist at the beginning, it isn't always the best option. You gotta calc it more often than not.

ACTION 1!

Azumarill used Camouflage! (-8en)
normal-type

Dragalge used Venoshock! (-7en)
Crit: 7 (no)
Damage: (13+5+3)= 21hp

Azumaril lost 2hp due to poison

ACTION 2!

Azumarill used Refresh! (-8en)
freed of poison

Dragalge used Venoshock! (-11en)
Crit: 10 (no)
Damage: 7+5+3= 15hp

ACTION 3!

Dragalge used Venoshock! (-15en)
Crit: 6 (no)
Damage: 15hp

Azumarill used Ice Punch + Ice Punch! (-28en)
Crit:2
Effect:5
Poison Point: 8
Damage: (8*2.25+4.5)*1.5= 33.75hp

- - -

Hp: 57
En: 56
6/3/1/3/50
Other:

bench

Hp: 28
En: 60
6/4/1/3/45
Other: 5% Paralysis

Hp: 29
En: 10
3/3/5/5/38
Other: Outrage disabled for 2a
​

Toon
Frosty
I Ref

​

 

[Toon]

Praying for freeze is not good idea

assuming im still a normal type

CD(Body Slam)->Body Slam->Ice Punch

IF P/E AND not on the action you're cooling down THEN Rest and Sleep Talk (Ice punch, body slam,facade,bulldoze) on the action after, only once

IF Acid Armor was used in the prior actions and dragalge is not encored and the sub above has not activated THEN encore and push back

this sub is stupid since you're not faster >.>

IF damaging fighting type combination THEN Protect

 

[Frosty]

Focus Blast - Draco Meteor - Draco Meteor

- - - -

Hp: 57
En: 56
6/3/1/3/50
Other: Normal for 3a

bench

Hp: 28
En: 60
6/4/1/3/45
Other: 5% Paralysis

Hp: 29
En: 10
3/3/5/5/38
Other: Outrage disabled for 2a
​

- - -

Round 7!​

ACTION 1!

Dragalge used Focus Blast! (-8en)
Hit: 34 (yes)
Crit: 10 (no)
Effect: 9 (no)
Damage: (12+3)*1.5= 22.5hp

Azumarill is cooling down!

ACTION 2!

Azumarill used Body Slam! (-5en)
Crit: 5
Effect: 3 (yes)
Poison Point: 5 (no)
Damage: (9+3+4.5)= 16.5hp

FP: 78 (no)
Dragalge used Draco Meteor! (-10en)
Hit: 7 (yes)
Crit: 6 (no)
Damage: (13+5+3)= 21hp

Dragalge fainted!

- - -

Hp: 13
En: 51
6/3/1/3/50
Other: Normal for 1a

bench

Hp: 28
En: 60
6/4/1/3/45
Other: 5% Paralysis

Hp: KO
En: KO
3/3/5/5/38
Other: KO​

- - - -

Go Rotom!

Thunderbolt - Thunderbolt - Thunderbolt
IF Endure THEN COMBO (Will-o-Wisp + Shadow Ball)


Toon

​

 

[Toon]

Protect-> Aqua Jet+Frustration->CD(Aqua jet+Aqua Jet)

IF Aquajet+frustraion is infeasible OR not a water type damaging move THEN Protect A1-> Aquajet+Waterfall A2->CD(Aquajet+Aquajet)a3

 

[Toon]

Frosty