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Images and other aesthetic formatting marks are not allowed for non-badged users.
that's pretty much what i'm asking here, why not? it's not like people can abuse pictures, and there can just a limit on them
Pictures can easily be abused, maybe not in sigs. Being able to have images in sigs as well as having expanded PM boxes are just privileges that come with a badge.
Also if everyone has large images in their sigs, that affects the site's bandwidth. Every time you open a page, you have to wait for the extra images to load. May not seem like much, but those things add up.
Also if everyone has large images in their sigs, that affects the site's bandwidth. Every time you open a page, you have to wait for the extra images to load. May not seem like much, but those things add up.
This is completely incorrect. Images are hosted on other websites that take the load; that doesn't affect Smogon's bandwidth at all. If you're concerned about your own personal page viewing I believe you can disable viewing signatures.
I personally don't get why badgeholders need privelege after privelege, but that's how it is right now.
That being said, allowing BBcode in signatures would really make it quite easy for signatures to look absolutely terrible.
Thats what I meant; I just wrote it wrong. I for one don't want to have disable sigs, since often times people have things in them I would like to see, and would otherwise miss entirely.
Like already stated, images are a reserved privilege for badgeholders.
I don't know about the rest of you, but most images in sigs are ugly and make a site cluttered and uninviting. For example (no offense) TU allows sigs with banners and other images and most of the page looks like a mess with all the large images and stuff. I personally prefer the cleaner look of smogon, but don't mind badged people who can use it in moderation.
I don't know about the rest of you, but most images in sigs are ugly and make a site cluttered and uninviting. For example (no offense) TU allows sigs with banners and other images and most of the page looks like a mess with all the large images and stuff. I personally prefer the cleaner look of smogon, but don't mind badged people who can use it in moderation.
okay
imagine every single person had an image in their signature
it's fucking terrible lets not do that
also on the whole badge holder issue
It's more incentive to become a badge holder (ie: contribute to the site) if there are perks to it.
besides you worked hard for your badge cim
:straight face:
you deserve perks
I largely agree, other than the fact that a badged user is probably a lot less likely to be completely retarded than the average user (though few average users are completely retarded).
I think it's just a can of worms / slippery slope thing.
"Will probably eventually." If they don't "probably eventually get banned" do we just deal with it? Even without BB code there are some ridiculously annoying signatures like this and this. What is the purpose of a signature like that? I don't want to imagine what they'd do with an unrestricted signature. Additionally I take it you haven't been on a forum with free signatures? A lot of them are plagued with sigs like this. Going through stuff like that with every post is more aggregating than anything, because signatures add no value whatsoever to a post. Frankly I don't care if you have some supposedly cool banner with swirly colors and your name on it, I don't want to look at it every post. Smogon has over 60,000 members, you're a bit optimistic to believe both A) all users will use unrestricted signatures responsibly and B) unresponsible users will "probably eventually" get banned.
I'd rather see signatures more restricted, frankly anything more than 2 lines is excessive and exists to make signatures more obnoxious. (Yes, I'm aware my signature is over 2 lines). Hide tags also bug me that I'm sure that's just me.
Additionally, I really hate the argument "badge holders are less likely to do something stupid." Just say badgeholders get more benefits, that's really all there is to it; it's not a matter of "everyone's stupid until proven otherwise," it's "unrestricted signatures are a stupid policy but why not make it an incentive to contribute?" That way it's not only a benefit of contribution, it's a method of regulating an otherwise bad policy. If you want BB code for your signature, get a badge.
EDIT: I'm not necessarily calling people stupid, I'm calling open signatures stupid. And again, 60,000 members. We're not talking the ~10 users that have put input into this thread. Also, if "nobody uses size 5 or annoying colors," why's it a big deal to have them disabled?
But you're assuming everyone will clutter their signatures. Either way, they can just put hide tags around size 5 font and it won't bother anyone when they can just hide it. Instead of banning BB code entirely (well most BB code) from signatures, why don't we just put restrictions on them, like hide tags as a mentioned before? This way, the people that want to view size 5 font can, and the people that don't want to view size 5 font don't have to. Also, Smogon has good mods and will probably tell someone who is cluttering their signature to stop. When I say probably, I'm pretty much saying they will do what is necessary. Not trying to create more work or anything, but I really think BB code should be allowed.
Take avatars for example, people can put "annoying" pictures in their avatars; do they? Usually not. However, there are size restrictions on avatars so people don't just post 1000x1000 pictures as their avatars. Can't we just allow pictures and put size restrictions on them like we do in avatars?
About colors; people can make their posts any color, so why can't they with their signature? For example, no one in this thread made any of their posts this color because it's extremely hard to see. Can't we assume that people won't do the same with their signatures? People aren't just that stupid. People can make their whole post size 5 font, but they don't, so can't we assume they won't do the same with their signature? I don't think you're giving people any credit for not being stupid.
It's big because banning size 5 and annoying colors also bans size 1 and 3, which happen to be completely legible and viable to use in posts. Also, banning annoying colors also bans viable colors, like this shade of green. I'm sure many people would love to have that in their signatures. Or for example, if there is a lot of text in a signature and one doesn't want to "clutter" their signature, they can use size one font which as you can see, is very readable. Take a look a few posts above at Undisputed's signature with the Gengar sprite. Personally, I think that looks very nice and fits with the theme of the team, so why shouldn't we be able to have that in our signatures without a badge? Since we usually don't find people making random spam threads all over the forum, we can assume that 95% of Smogonites aren't "completely retarded" as Chris put it and allow them to improve their signatures with various types of BB code.
Take avatars for example, people can put "annoying" pictures in their avatars; do they? Usually not. However, there are size restrictions on avatars so people don't just post 1000x1000 pictures as their avatars. Can't we just allow pictures and put size restrictions on them like we do in avatars?
About colors; people can make their posts any color, so why can't they with their signature? For example, no one in this thread made any of their posts this color because it's extremely hard to see. Can't we assume that people won't do the same with their signatures? People aren't just that stupid. People can make their whole post size 5 font, but they don't, so can't we assume they won't do the same with their signature? I don't think you're giving people any credit for not being stupid.
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It's big because banning size 5 and annoying colors also bans size 1 and 3, which happen to be completely legible and viable to use in posts. Also, banning annoying colors also bans viable colors, like this shade of green. I'm sure many people would love to have that in their signatures. Or for example, if there is a lot of text in a signature and one doesn't want to "clutter" their signature, they can use size one font which as you can see, is very readable. Take a look a few posts above at Undisputed's signature with the Gengar sprite. Personally, I think that looks very nice and fits with the theme of the team, so why shouldn't we be able to have that in our signatures without a badge? Since we usually don't find people making random spam threads all over the forum, we can assume that 95% of Smogonites aren't "completely retarded" as Chris put it and allow them to improve their signatures with various types of BB code.
signatures should default to size 1, actually
otherwise, what veedrock said. it's a badgeholder privilege.
otherwise, what veedrock said. it's a badgeholder privilege.
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