BDSP Suicune

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Suicune @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Def / 156 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Scald
- Protect / Rest
- Substitute / Sleep Talk

The dust has cleared after the banning of powerhouses such as Latios and Manaphy, leaving the graceful incarnation of the North Wind to pressure the BDSP metagame! Substitute in conjunction with Protect allows Suicune to PP stall defensive answers such as Rotom-W, Tangrowth, and Blissey. Alternatively, Rest in conjunction with Sleep Talk makes it sturdier and less passive, allowing it to shrug off status from Clefable and Mew and take on threats such as Nidoking reliably. 156 Speed EVs allows it to outspeed and stall specially defensive Jirachi and Timid Magnezone, while a Bold nature avoids a 2HKO from Mamoswine and allows its Substitute to usually survive Scizor and Infernape's U-turn. Clefable deals with Choice Band Infernape and Garchomp, which threaten it, and in return, loves Suicune's ability to deal with Heatran. Team mates such as Celebi and Heatran check Breloom and Roserade, respectively, and appreciate Suicune checking Mamoswine and Gliscor. Scizor provides Defog to remove Roserade's Toxic Spikes, allowing Suicune to set up more easily; it also importantly checks Weavile and Psyshock Alakazam.

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Suicune @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 104 Def / 156 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Scald
- Protect / Rest
- Substitute / Sleep Talk

*note: shouldn't this be 252 HP (101 HP Subs)
will do after stuff
Yes, take from defense
 

dex

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Alternatively, Rest in conjunction with Sleep Talk makes it sturdier and less passive, allowing it to shrug off status from Clefable and take on threats such as Nidoking reliably
I'd also mention Mew alongside Clefable.

156 Speed allows it to outspeed and stall out specially defensive Jirachi and Celebi, while a Bold nature lets it not get 2HKO'ed by Mamoswine and also allows its Substitute almost always not get broken by U-turn from Scizor and Infernape.
Celebi is usually running some speed, often for Jolly Breloom, so I'd replace Celebi with timid Magnezone.

Clefable deals with Dragon-types such as Latias and Garchomp which threaten it, and in return loves Suicune's ability to deal with Heatran
Latias doesn't exactly threaten Suicune, especially Rest variants. I'd replace it with Choice Band Infernape.

Team mates such as Celebi and Heatran check Breloom and Roserade, respectively, and appreciates it checking Mamoswine and Gliscor.
add a mention of Scizor in here, which can be important for Defogging, ensuring that Suicune has the best chance to actually get set up. It's particularly important for fogging Roserade's Tspikes. In return, it can check Psyshock Alakazam and Weavile.

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I'd also mention Mew alongside Clefable.


Celebi is usually running some speed, often for Jolly Breloom, so I'd replace Celebi with timid Magnezone.


Latias doesn't exactly threaten Suicune, especially Rest variants. I'd replace it with Choice Band Infernape.


add a mention of Scizor in here, which can be important for Defogging, ensuring that Suicune has the best chance to actually get set up. It's particularly important for fogging Roserade's Tspikes. In return, it can check Psyshock Alakazam and Weavile.

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Checks implemented, thank you so much Dex
 

dex

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After the dust has cleared from the removalThe dust has cleared after the banning of powerhouses such as Latios and Manaphy, leaving the graceful incarnation of the North Wind to pressures the BDSP metagame with a Calm Mind set! Substitute, in conjunction with Protect allows it to drain the PP, allows Suicune to PP stall defensive answers such as Rotom-W, Tangrowth, and Blissey. Alternatively, Rest, in conjunction with Sleep Talk, makes it sturdier and less passive, allowing it to shrug off status from Clefable and Mew, and take on threats such as Nidoking reliably. 156 Speed EVs allows it to outspeed and stall out specially defensive Jirachi and Timid Magnezone, while a Bold nature lets it not get 2HKO'ed by Mamoswine and also allows its Substitute almost always not get broken by U-turn fromavoids a 2HKO from Mamoswine and allows its Substitute to usually survive Scizor and Infernape's U-turn. Clefable deals with Choice Band Infernape and Garchomp, which threaten it, and in return, loves Suicune's ability to deal with Heatran. Teammates such as Celebi and Heatran check Breloom and Roserade, respectively, and appreciates it Suicune checking Mamoswine and Gliscor. Scizor provides Defog to remove Roserade's Toxic Spikes from Roserade, allowing Suicune to setup more easily, and loves its ability to check up more easily; it also importantly checks Weavile and Psyshock Alakazam.

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Neko

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After the dust has cleared from the removalThe dust has cleared after the banning of powerhouses such as Latios and Manaphy, leaving the graceful incarnation of the North Wind to pressures the BDSP metagame with a Calm Mind set! Substitute, in conjunction with Protect allows it to drain the PP, allows Suicune to PP stall defensive answers such as Rotom-W, Tangrowth, and Blissey. Alternatively, Rest, in conjunction with Sleep Talk, makes it sturdier and less passive, allowing it to shrug off status from Clefable and Mew, and take on threats such as Nidoking reliably. 156 Speed EVs allows it to outspeed and stall out specially defensive Jirachi and Timid Magnezone, while a Bold nature lets it not get 2HKO'ed by Mamoswine and also allows its Substitute almost always not get broken by U-turn fromavoids a 2HKO from Mamoswine and allows its Substitute to usually survive Scizor and Infernape's U-turn. Clefable deals with Choice Band Infernape and Garchomp, which threaten it, and in return, loves Suicune's ability to deal with Heatran. Teammates such as Celebi and Heatran check Breloom and Roserade, respectively, and appreciates it Suicune checking Mamoswine and Gliscor. Scizor provides Defog to remove Roserade's Toxic Spikes from Roserade, allowing Suicune to setup more easily, and loves its ability to check up more easily; it also importantly checks Weavile and Psyshock Alakazam.

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Check implemented, thank you so much Dex
:suicune: done :blobnom:
 

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