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- Thread starter Ryfle
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I dunno, you are trying to sweep with Deoxys and Garchomp, 2 of the best pokemon that do serious clean up. I was thinking maybe a Magnezone could help you eliminate Bronzong and friends so you can make a clean sweep, as Bronzong in general troubles Deoxys and Garchomp. I'm worried about how Mamoswine handles this team though. Normally I would recommend Bronzong, but 2 steels means Heatran can sweep you without a proper counter.
I would say replace Gengar with Magnezone, Magnezone will do alot more than what Gengar can do. With that, Replacing Metagross with another Bulky Pokemon like a Swampert would be a good idea, since you want Azelf to stay in the team. I would normally run a MixPert, but I think the defensive Swampert should help you out more. 252 Hp / 4 Atk / 252 Def @ Impish should be enough, Avalance and Stone Edge should be on the set, so you can handle Gyarados and Garchomp better. I don't see why Flamethrower > Fire Fang on Garchomp, iirc, a SD Fire Fang does 70 - 80% to Bronzong, so I don't see why Flamethrowe is here.
Esta chingon tu team.
I would say replace Gengar with Magnezone, Magnezone will do alot more than what Gengar can do. With that, Replacing Metagross with another Bulky Pokemon like a Swampert would be a good idea, since you want Azelf to stay in the team. I would normally run a MixPert, but I think the defensive Swampert should help you out more. 252 Hp / 4 Atk / 252 Def @ Impish should be enough, Avalance and Stone Edge should be on the set, so you can handle Gyarados and Garchomp better. I don't see why Flamethrower > Fire Fang on Garchomp, iirc, a SD Fire Fang does 70 - 80% to Bronzong, so I don't see why Flamethrowe is here.
Esta chingon tu team.
doexys E is just so fast even without a hasty nature, speed does not need to be maxed, id switch SPE with spA, it still keeps it insanely fast and it becomes stronger
A bit nitpicky, but I would consider Fire Blast over Flamethrower on Azelf, if only for the fact that it actually allows you to 2HKO Bronzong, which Flamethrower cannot. With it, if you try 224 SpA EVs then you're guaranteed the 2HKO on Zong, which is kind of vital as it screws over a lot of your team. From there, you might as well bung the rest in Attack. Really, you don't need any more than ~216Spe to beat Gengar, maybe a bit more to outspeed others who EV to beat Gengar. You could keep max speed to ensure the speed tie with Gengar, but personally I'd prefer to power up Explosion. Incidentally, I'd advise that you bump Zapdos' speed up to 36 EVs, to beat Jolly Tyranitar. Probably take it from defense, unless 160 does something specific.
I'm not sure about the idea of a non-MM Metagross. Ice Punch won't come close to the OHKO on Gliscor without a Choice Band or Life Orb. Hippo lols at you even more. I'd personally keep it over Ice Punch if only for the fact that the occasional Attack rise it gives you will make sweeping considerably easier. I would also advise Naive > Hasty on Garchomp, as his useful resists tend to see more use on the physical side, most notably against Tyranitar's Stone Edges. Oh, and you 2HKO Skarmory after a SD with Fire Fang anyway; Flamethrower means you've got to split your EVs as well as missing out on the Bronzong 2HKO, so I'd go with that.
I'm sorry; rereading this post makes it look like I'm just suggesting standard sets to you, in place of your rather more creative variants. It just seems that here, standard sets would be rather more suitable. Anyway, nice team :)
I'm not sure about the idea of a non-MM Metagross. Ice Punch won't come close to the OHKO on Gliscor without a Choice Band or Life Orb. Hippo lols at you even more. I'd personally keep it over Ice Punch if only for the fact that the occasional Attack rise it gives you will make sweeping considerably easier. I would also advise Naive > Hasty on Garchomp, as his useful resists tend to see more use on the physical side, most notably against Tyranitar's Stone Edges. Oh, and you 2HKO Skarmory after a SD with Fire Fang anyway; Flamethrower means you've got to split your EVs as well as missing out on the Bronzong 2HKO, so I'd go with that.
I'm sorry; rereading this post makes it look like I'm just suggesting standard sets to you, in place of your rather more creative variants. It just seems that here, standard sets would be rather more suitable. Anyway, nice team :)
You might wanna give Gengar the berry that boosts speed after you get down to 1/3 health (I forgot the name, Petaya berry?). This means you're definately faster than most things.
Parliament fan? :P
Parliament fan? :P