OU Bisharp

Sayuze

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[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Knock Off
move 3: Iron Head
move 4: Sucker Punch
item: Black Glasses / Life Orb
ability: Defiant
nature: Adamant / Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Bisharp is a menace in OU, functioning as a strong wallbreaker due to its superb Attack stat and great offensive movepool. Bisharp can dismantle defensive cores with its STAB moves, and this is only bolstered with its access to Swords Dance, leaving potential switch-ins after a boost fairly limited. Sucker Punch provides Bisharp with insurance against common offensive threats that outpace it such as Excadrill, Dugtrio, Dragapult, and Zeraora. Moreover, Defiant can punish Defoggers, as your opponent always poses the risk of getting swept by Bisharp if they use Defog. Defiant can also have some niche usage in other cases such as against Sticky Web teams and Special Attack drops from Clefable's Moonblast. Black Glasses further boosts Knock Off and Sucker Punch to fearsome levels, though Life Orb is an equally viable option that provides better damage overall and greater odds to ensure a Knock Off OHKO on Corviknight at +2 at the cost of slowly draining Bisharp's health. Life Orb also allows you to do substantially more damage to Clefable with Iron Head and Toxapex, as well as achieving an OHKO on Tyranitar. Chople Berry is a niche alternative, allowing Bisharp to tank a Body Press from Ferrothorn and Corviknight, but due to Bisharp's mediocre Defense and a 4x weakness to Fighting, it is not very practical. An Adamant nature is preferred simply to maximize its damage output; however, a Jolly nature can be run to outspeed the likes of Adamant Dracovish.

Thanks to Bisharp's role as a potent wallbreaker, its access to Sucker Punch, and Defiant to prevent free usage of Defog, it is best fit on hyper offense teams but may find a place on bulkier offense builds. On hyper offense, it fulfills a plethora of roles, including utilizing its wallbreaking potential to help physical setup sweepers such as Zeraora, Hawlucha, and Gyarados, as well as keeping offensive pressure against Defoggers to help suicide leads such as Mew and Ribombee. However, Pokemon that resist its priority STAB attack and can revenge kill it, namely Conkeldurr, Hydreigon, and Terrakion, are definite roadblocks to it. Similarly, Body Press users such as Kommo-o, Ferrothorn, and Corviknight can wipe out Bisharp from the game. Partners such as Dragapult, Aegislash, and Clefable are options as teammates, keeping such Pokemon in check.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Sayuze, 386581]]
- Quality checked by: [[Ruft, 295110], [Jordy, 395754]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Rabia, 336073]]
 
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Team options are missing, i.e., this part of the preview analysis format:
- a brief example of teammates that benefit from the analysed Pokemon's presence;
- a brief example of foes that the analyses Pokemon is vulnerable to + teammates to help cover them.
You need to add this before we can QC.
 

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[SET]
name: Offensive Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Knock Off
move 3: Iron Head
move 4: Sucker Punch
item: Black Glasses / Life Orb
ability: Defiant
nature: Adamant / Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Bisharp is an underdog in OU, posing as a strong wallbreaker due to its superb Attack stat and great offensive movepool. Underdog sounds overly negative, Bisharp is a legitimate threat.
Access to Knock Off and Iron Head, just the STAB it needs, in tangent with a high Attack allow Bisharp to dismantle defensive cores This is unnecessary fluff. This remark is only bolstered with its access to Swords Dance, leaving potential switch-ins to Bisharp after a Swords Dance fairly limited. Sucker Punch provides Bisharp with insurance against common offensive beasts that outpace it such as Excadrill and Dugtrio, but also to get sufficient chip damage on Pokemon that it wouldn't otherwise be able to hit. Definitely mention Dragapult and Zeraora as targets too; you can probably leave out the second part. Moreover, Defiant can act as a form of punishment to Pokemon capable of Defogging, as well as having some niche usage in other cases such as against opposing Sticky Web or Special Attack drops from Clefable's Moonblast. Black Glasses further boost Knock Off and Sucker Punch to become more fearsome, though Life Orb is an equally viable option at the cost of slowly draining Bisharp's health. Are there any specific benchmarks that Life Orb hits which Black Glasses doesn't? You should also talk about Adamant vs. Jolly. The marvels end here though, as defensively Bisharp is held back quite a lot--it's mediocre Speed limits Bisharp from becoming a truly offensive powerhouse, being outsped by almost all revenge killers, even the likes of not as fast Pokemon such as Jolly Dracovish and Togekiss. Defensively, Bisharp is pretty lackluster, having fairly weak defenses, letting even moves such as Scald from Toxapex damage do decent amounts of damage. Pair this with the abundance of Pokemon that pack Body Press equates to the fact that Bisharp cannot always set up for free against the likes of Pokemon such as Ferrothorn or Corviknight. As well, Sucker Punch can lead to high risk scenarios, allowing for potential setup fodder from opposing Pokemon if the wrong series of plays occur. This part is overly negative. While not wrong, you should instead provide constructive advice on how to overcome these weaknesses. That's where the next paragraph on teammates comes in.

[TEAM OPTIONS] You don't have to add this subtitle when working on mini analyses.
Due to the these qualities, it is best fit on Hyper Offense but may find a place on Bulkier Offense builds. On Hyper Offense, it fulfills a plethora of roles including utilizing its wallbreaking potential to help physical setup sweepers such as Dragapult or Hawlucha. Dragapult isn't exactly known for being a physical setup sweeper, mention Zeraora and/or Gyarados instead. The presence of Sucker Punch, as well as Defiant to prevent free Defogging, compliment Bisharp even more on such team archetypes. Why? It's worth mentioning Defiant's synergy with hazard stacking from suicide leads like Mew and Sticky Web from Ribombee or Araquanid.
Pokemon that resist it's priority STAB and can revenge kill it, namely Conkelldurr, Hydreigon, or Terrakion, are definite roadblocks to it.As well, Pokemon running Body Press such as Kommo-o, Ferrothorn, or Corviknight can wipe Bisharp useless for the game. You need to give advice on how to overcome these threats. Think of teammates like Dragapult and Clefable.


[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Sayuze, 386581]]
- Quality checked by: [[username1, userid1], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
This analysis still needs quite a bit of work. I'd like to take another look once this is implemented.
 

Sayuze

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Ruft yeah fair enough, edited everything except for the part where u said physical dragapult (dd) isn't a set? kinda confused by that, it's like a very common set on hyper offense and has even seen some tour usage in SPL i believe, obviously not as common as wisp hex overall but i feel like its worth a mention.. ?

other stuff:
>Definitely mention Dragapult and Zeraora as targets too; you can probably leave out the second part.
i kinda specifically left these out prior to ur msg bc wisp pult can kinda mess u over so its not always safe . also zeraora has access to bulk up making it also kinda iffy imo. changed it though

>Are there any specific benchmarks that Life Orb hits which Black Glasses doesn't? You should also talk about Adamant vs. Jolly
only one i can find is that +2 LO knock ohkoing corv spread on the calc, 100% of the time
 

Ruft

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Ruft yeah fair enough, edited everything except for the part where u said physical dragapult (dd) isn't a set? kinda confused by that, it's like a very common set on hyper offense and has even seen some tour usage in SPL i believe, obviously not as common as wisp hex overall but i feel like its worth a mention.. ?
Sure, it's a set, but it doesn't have an analysis as of now so I think it's better to just leave it out to avoid confusing readers.
>Definitely mention Dragapult and Zeraora as targets too; you can probably leave out the second part.
i kinda specifically left these out prior to ur msg bc wisp pult can kinda mess u over so its not always safe . also zeraora has access to bulk up making it also kinda iffy imo. changed it though
Both also have sets with 4 attacks so I think they're still fine mentions.
[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Knock Off
move 3: Iron Head
move 4: Sucker Punch
item: Black Glasses / Life Orb
ability: Defiant
nature: Adamant / Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]
Bisharp is a menace in OU, posing as a strong wallbreaker due to its superb Attack stat and great offensive movepool.
Bisharp can dismantle defensive cores with its STAB attacking moves and this remark is only bolstered with its access to Swords Dance, leaving potential switch-ins to Bisharp after a Swords Dance fairly limited. Sucker Punch provides Bisharp with insurance against common offensive beasts that outpace it such as Excadrill, Dugtrio, Dragapult, and Zeraora. Moreover, Defiant can act as a form of punishment to Pokemon capable of Defogging, as well as having some niche usage in other cases such as against opposing Sticky Web or Special Attack drops from Clefable's Moonblast. Black Glasses further boost Knock Off and Sucker Punch to become more fearsome, though Life Orb is an equally viable option at the cost of slowly draining Bisharp's health but also having much greater odds to ensure a Knock Off OHKO on Corviknight at +2, and better damage overall. Life Orb also allows you to do substantially more damage to Clefable with Iron Head as well as OHKO Tyranitar. An Adamant nature is preferred simply to maximize damage output, however a Jolly Nature can be run to outspeed the likes of Adamant Dracovish or in tandem with a Sticky Web partner Jolly doesn't outspeed anything notable compared to Adamant under webs.

Due to the these qualities, it is best fit on Hyper Offense but may find a place on Bulkier Offense builds. On Hyper Offense, it fulfills a plethora of roles including utilizing its wallbreaking potential to help physical setup sweepers such as Dragapult, Zeraora, Hawlucha and Gyarados. Remove Dragapult for now, reasoning above. The presence of Sucker Punch, as well as Defiant to prevent free Defogging, compliment Bisharp even more on such team archetypes, thus suicide leads such as Mew or Ribombee pair well with Bisharp. Pokemon that resist it's priority STAB and can revenge kill it, namely Conkelldurr, Hydreigon, or Terrakion, are definite roadblocks to it. As well, Pokemon running Body Press such as Kommo-o, Ferrothorn, or Corviknight can wipe Bisharp useless for the game. Partners such as Dragapult or Clefable are options as teammates, keeping such listed Pokemon in check.


[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Sayuze, 386581]]
- Quality checked by: [[Ruft, 295110], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
Good work, 1/2.
 
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[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Knock Off
move 3: Iron Head
move 4: Sucker Punch
item: Black Glasses / Life Orb
ability: Defiant
nature: Adamant / Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]
Bisharp is a menace in OU, posing as a strong wallbreaker due to its superb Attack stat and great offensive movepool.
Bisharp can dismantle defensive cores with its STAB attacking moves and this remark is only bolstered with its access to Swords Dance, leaving potential switch-ins to Bisharp after a Swords Dance fairly limited. Sucker Punch provides Bisharp with insurance against common offensive beasts that outpace it such as Excadrill, Dugtrio, Dragapult, and Zeraora. Moreover, Defiant can act as a form of punishment to Pokemon capable of Defogging, as well as having some niche usage in other cases such as against opposing Sticky Web or Special Attack drops from Clefable's Moonblast. I think you should primarily focus on how Bisharp can abuse Defoggers here, rather than just stating what Defiant does. Black Glasses further boost Knock Off and Sucker Punch to become more fearsome, though Life Orb is an equally viable option at the cost of slowly draining Bisharp's health but also having much greater odds to ensure a Knock Off OHKO on Corviknight at +2, and better damage overall. Life Orb also allows you to do substantially more damage to Clefable with Iron Head as well as OHKO Tyranitar. The improved damage output against Toxapex is certainly notable. You could also mention Chople Berry here; it's a pretty niche option but it's really useful against Body Press Corviknight and Ferrothorn. I'll leave it up to you though. An Adamant nature is preferred simply to maximize damage output, however a Jolly Nature can be run to outspeed the likes of Adamant Dracovish.

Due to the these qualities, it is best fit on Hyper Offense but may find a place on Bulkier Offense builds. What you mean by "Due to these qualities" isn't very clear, you should restate how it can punish Defoggers and break down teams here. On Hyper Offense, it fulfills a plethora of roles including utilizing its wallbreaking potential to help physical setup sweepers such as Zeraora, Hawlucha and Gyarados. The presence of Sucker Punch, as well as Defiant to prevent free Defogging, compliment Bisharp even more on such team archetypes, thus suicide leads such as Mew or Ribombee pair well with Bisharp. This is a really important part of Bisharp's niche and should definitely be mentioned earlier on in this paragraph, you could combine it in the first sentence. Pokemon that resist it's priority STAB and can revenge kill it, namely Conkelldurr, Hydreigon, or Terrakion, are definite roadblocks to it. As well, Pokemon running Body Press such as Kommo-o, Ferrothorn, or Corviknight can wipe Bisharp useless for the game. Partners such as Dragapult, Aegislash, or Clefable are options as teammates, keeping such listed Pokemon in check.


[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Sayuze, 386581]]
- Quality checked by: [[Ruft, 295110], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
Great job, 2/2.
 

Sayuze

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Great job, 2/2.
>The improved damage output against Toxapex is certainly notable. You could also mention Chople Berry here; it's a pretty niche option but it's really useful against Body Press Corviknight and Ferrothorn. I'll leave it up to you though
yea, i considered writing about that set too originally but i thought it was too niche. Added it here though.

otherwise, i think i got it. if i didn't go thru something the way u wanted, just let me know
 

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[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Knock Off
move 3: Iron Head
move 4: Sucker Punch
item: Black Glasses / Life Orb
ability: Defiant
nature: Adamant / Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Bisharp is a menace in OU, posing as a strong wallbreaker due to its superb Attack stat and great offensive movepool.
Bisharp can dismantle defensive cores with its STAB attacking moves and this remark is only bolstered with its access to Swords Dance, leaving potential switch-ins to Bisharp after a Swords Dance boost fairly limited. Sucker Punch provides Bisharp with insurance against common offensive beasts threats (I'd prefer sticking with the usual terminology, but this is preferential) that outpace it such as Excadrill, Dugtrio, Dragapult, and Zeraora. (fix space) Moreover, Defiant can act as a form of punishment to Pokemon capable of Defogging Defoggers;(RSC) ,(AC) as your opponent always poses the risk of setting theirselves up to getting swept by Bisharp if they Defog, which can be used as an advantage to prevent hazards from being removed,(RC) .(AFS) as well as having Defiant can also have (I decided to separate the two sentence in order to highlight Defiant's main role, compared to the situational cases of Sticky Web / Moonblast's Spa drops) some niche usage in other cases such as against opposing Sticky Web teams or Special Attack drops from Clefable's Moonblast. Black Glasses further boosts Knock Off and Sucker Punch to become more fearsome levels, though Life Orb is an equally viable option that provides better damage overall and greater odds to ensure a Knock Off OHKO on Corviknight a +2,(AC) (same thing, I wanted to emphasize Life Orb's advantages first) at the cost of slowly draining Bisharp's health but also having much greater odds to ensure a Knock Off OHKO on Corviknight at +2, and better damage overall. Life Orb also allows you to do substantially more damage to Toxapex, Clefable with Iron Head,(AC) as well as acheving an OHKO on Tyranitar. Chople Berry is a niche alternative,(RC) allowing that allows Bisharp to tank a Body Press from Ferrothorn and Corviknight, but due to Bisharp's mediocre dDefense stats and already a 4x Dark weakness to Fighting, it is not very practical. An Adamant nature is preferred simply to maximize its damage output, however a Jolly Nnature can be run to outspeed the likes of Adamant Dracovish.

Because Thanks to Bisharp's serves a role as a potent wallbreaker, the presence of its access to Sucker Punch,(RC) as well as Defiant to prevent free Defogging, it is best fit on Hhyper Ooffense but may find a place on Bbulkier Ooffense builds. On Hhyper Ooffense, it fulfills a plethora of roles,(AC) including utilizing its wallbreaking potential to help physical setup sweepers such as Zeraora, Hawlucha and Gyarados, while as well as keeping offensive pressure against Defog with suicide leads such as Mew or Ribombee. However, Pokemon that resist it's its priority STAB and can revenge kill it, namely Conkelldurr, Hydreigon, or and (the object being listed is plural) Terrakion, are definite roadblocks to it. As well Similarly, Pokemon running Body Press users such as Kommo-o, Ferrothorn, or and Corviknight can wipe out Bisharp useless for from the game. Partners such as Dragapult, Aegislash, or and Clefable are options as teammates, keeping such listed Pokemon in check.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Sayuze, 386581]]
- Quality checked by: [[Ruft, 295110], [Jordy, 395754]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
 

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[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Knock Off
move 3: Iron Head
move 4: Sucker Punch
item: Black Glasses / Life Orb
ability: Defiant
nature: Adamant / Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Bisharp is a menace in OU, posing functioning (meh, word choice feels poor here) as a strong wallbreaker due to its superb Attack stat and great offensive movepool. Bisharp can dismantle defensive cores with its STAB attacking moves,(AC) and this remark is only bolstered with its access to Swords Dance, leaving potential switch-ins to Bisharp after a Swords Dance boost fairly limited. Sucker Punch provides Bisharp with insurance against common offensive beasts threats (I'd prefer sticking with the usual terminology, but this is preferential eh, either works) that outpace it such as Excadrill, Dugtrio, Dragapult, and Zeraora. (fix space) Moreover, Defiant can act as a form of punishment to Pokemon capable of Defogging Defoggers;(RSC) ,(AC) as your opponent always poses the risk of setting theirselves up to getting swept by Bisharp if they use Defog (RC) which can be used as an advantage to prevent hazards from being removed (this is all implied by the preceding information),(RC) .(AFS) as well as having Defiant can also have (I decided to separate the two sentence in order to highlight Defiant's main role, compared to the situational cases of Sticky Web / Moonblast's Spa drops) some niche usage in other cases such as against opposing Sticky Web or teams and Special Attack drops from Clefable's Moonblast. Black Glasses further boosts Knock Off and Sucker Punch to become more fearsome levels, though Life Orb is an equally viable option that provides better damage overall and greater odds to ensure a Knock Off OHKO on Corviknight at +2 (same thing, I wanted to emphasize Life Orb's advantages first) at the cost of slowly draining Bisharp's health but also having much greater odds to ensure a Knock Off OHKO on Corviknight at +2, and better damage overall. Life Orb also allows you to do substantially more damage to Clefable with Iron Head and Toxapex, Clefable with Iron Head as well as achieving an OHKO on Tyranitar. Chople Berry is a niche alternative, allowing Bisharp to tank a Body Press from Ferrothorn and Corviknight, but due to Bisharp's mediocre dDefense stats and already a 4x Dark weakness to Fighting, it is not very practical. An Adamant nature is preferred simply to maximize its damage output;(comma -> semicolon) however,(AC) a Jolly Nnature can be run to outspeed the likes of Adamant Dracovish.

Because Thanks to Bisharp's serves a role as a potent wallbreaker, the presence of its access to Sucker Punch, as well as and Defiant to prevent free usage of Defogging, it is best fit on Hhyper Ooffense teams but may find a place on Bbulkier Ooffense builds. On Hhyper Ooffense, it fulfills a plethora of roles,(AC) including utilizing its wallbreaking potential to help physical setup sweepers such as Zeraora, Hawlucha,(AC) and Gyarados, while as well as keeping offensive pressure against Defog with Defoggers to help suicide leads such as Mew or and Ribombee. However, Pokemon that resist it's its priority STAB attack and can revenge kill it, namely Conkelldurr Conkeldurr, Hydreigon, or and (the object being listed is plural) Terrakion, are definite roadblocks to it. As well Similarly, Pokemon running Body Press users such as Kommo-o, Ferrothorn, or and Corviknight can wipe out Bisharp useless for from the game. Partners such as Dragapult, Aegislash, or and Clefable are options as teammates, keeping such listed Pokemon in check.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Sayuze, 386581]]
- Quality checked by: [[Ruft, 295110], [Jordy, 395754]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]


[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Knock Off
move 3: Iron Head
move 4: Sucker Punch
item: Black Glasses / Life Orb
ability: Defiant
nature: Adamant / Jolly
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Bisharp is a menace in OU, functioning as a strong wallbreaker due to its superb Attack stat and great offensive movepool. Bisharp can dismantle defensive cores with its STAB moves, and this is only bolstered with its access to Swords Dance, leaving potential switch-ins after a boost fairly limited. Sucker Punch provides Bisharp with insurance against common offensive threats that outpace it such as Excadrill, Dugtrio, Dragapult, and Zeraora. Moreover, Defiant can punish Defoggers, as your opponent always poses the risk of getting swept by Bisharp if they use Defog. Defiant can also have some niche usage in other cases such as against Sticky Web teams and Special Attack drops from Clefable's Moonblast. Black Glasses further boosts Knock Off and Sucker Punch to fearsome levels, though Life Orb is an equally viable option that provides better damage overall and greater odds to ensure a Knock Off OHKO on Corviknight at +2 at the cost of slowly draining Bisharp's health. Life Orb also allows you to do substantially more damage to Clefable with Iron Head and Toxapex, as well as achieving an OHKO on Tyranitar. Chople Berry is a niche alternative, allowing Bisharp to tank a Body Press from Ferrothorn and Corviknight, but due to Bisharp's mediocre Defense and a 4x weakness to Fighting, it is not very practical. An Adamant nature is preferred simply to maximize its damage output; however, a Jolly nature can be run to outspeed the likes of Adamant Dracovish.

Thanks to Bisharp's role as a potent wallbreaker, its access to Sucker Punch, and Defiant to prevent free usage of Defog, it is best fit on hyper offense teams but may find a place on bulkier offense builds. On hyper offense, it fulfills a plethora of roles, including utilizing its wallbreaking potential to help physical setup sweepers such as Zeraora, Hawlucha, and Gyarados, as well as keeping offensive pressure against Defoggers to help suicide leads such as Mew and Ribombee. However, Pokemon that resist its priority STAB attack and can revenge kill it, namely Conkeldurr, Hydreigon, and Terrakion, are definite roadblocks to it. Similarly, Body Press users such as Kommo-o, Ferrothorn, and Corviknight can wipe out Bisharp from the game. Partners such as Dragapult, Aegislash, and Clefable are options as teammates, keeping such Pokemon in check.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Sayuze, 386581]]
- Quality checked by: [[Ruft, 295110], [Jordy, 395754]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

usually I wouldn't include a copy paste because writers should learn from the GP check, but this is a bit of a mess and I want to make sure it gets implemented properly oops. Milak let me know if you have questions. gp 1/1 once done
 
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