Blitzkrieg Smashpass

ntiller

ntiller

The basic idea of this team is to hit extremely hard extremely quickly with Haxorus and Genesect. Smeargle and Gorebyss are the main baton passers, although Espeon can pass Calm Mind as well. This team has stabilized at around 1750-1800 on Pokemon Showdown.
Note: The speed ev's on Espeon, Genesect, and Haxorus are designed so that they will just barely outspeed Venusaur under the sun after being passed shell smash.

Smeargle @Focus Sash
Ability: Own Tempo
EV's
252 Hp
252+ Spe
4 Spd
- Atk

Moves
-Spore
-Shell Smash
-Baton Pass
-Substitute

I think that shell smash and baton pass merit no further explanation as they are what make Smashpass, Smashpass. Spore is included to buy Smeargle time to set up. Substitute is good in the late game when Smeargle's sash is already broken. Focus sash stops everything faster than Smeargle from OHKOing it.

Gorebyss @Focus Sash
Ability: Swift Swim
EV's
252+ Spa
252 Spe
4 Hp
- Atk

Moves
-Shell Smash
-Baton Pass
-Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam

Unlike Smeargle, Gorebyss is capable of getting aggressive and attacking. Common phazers, such as Hippopowdon and Heatran are threatened by a +2 super effective hydro pump, and as a result cannot disrupt the baton pass chain. Also, in the late game when most of my other sweepers have been dealt with and my opponent's defensive core weakened or removed, an attacking Gorebyss can easily win the game. Focus sash serves to ensure that Gorebyss will be able to pass shell smash.

Haxorus @White Herb
Ability: Mold Breaker
EV's
252+ Atk
220 Spe
36 Hp
- Spa

Moves
-Dragon Claw
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Brick Break

With 220 speed EV's, Haxorus is able to outspeed sun-boosted Venusaur after receiving a shell smash. His attack EV's allow him to reach a staggering 864 attack after shell smash, which lets him OHKO basically everything that doesn't resist dragon. Earthquake and brick break hit most steel pokemon super effectively; the biggest issues for Haxorus right now are Scizor, Forretress, Genesect, and Ferrothorn. These pokemon do not get OHKO'd by Haxorus and force me to think twice about using outrage as long as they are alive. White Herb allows Haxorus to receive shell smash into an opponent's attack and not take heavy damage. Mold Breaker lets Earthquake hit pokemon with levitate, and keeps Haxorus's damage consistent.

Genesect @White Herb
Ability: Download
EV's
252+ Spa
204 Spe
52 Hp

Moves
-Bug Buzz
-Flamethrower
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt

Genesect does everything Haxorus does except it hits for special damage instead of physical, has better defensive typing and stats, and has way, way better coverage. Also, Genesect is often able to receive an additional +1 Spa boost, courtesy of its ability download. Genesect resists or takes neutral damage from common priority moves making it extremely difficult to KO. Blissey and Chansey are irritating, but not insurmountable problems. White Herb helps Genesect tank the occasional hit better. The only time I'm not 100% satisfied with Genesect is when it doesn't have shell smash and as a result often goes second and ends up dying. However, I don't see a way to fix this without crippling its shell smash sweeping performance.

Espeon @White Herb
Ability: Magic Bounce
EV's
252+ Spa
116 Spe
140 Hp
- Atk

Moves
-Calm Mind
-Baton Pass
-Stored Power
-Shadow Ball

Espeon performs an invaluable roll on this team. It allows me to safely baton pass into spore, will-o-wisp, or thunder wave without having to worry about crippling my sweeper. Then, it allows me to transition later into a finisher with more power or better coverage. It can also use calm mind, either by itself or after receiving a shell smash, to toughen up my main sweepers and boost Genesect's special attack even further. Stored Power is absurdly powerful, having a base power of 140 after just 1 shell smash. Combined with STAB, a high special attack, and +2 special attack, and you get an attack that can OHKO a lot of things. Shadow ball is a coverage move that allows me to damage dark types, and allows me to hit psychic types for super effective damage. Espeon's speed EV's let it outspeed sun-boosted Venusaur after receiving a shell smash. The white herb helps it survive direct attacks.

Terrakion @Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EV's
252 Atk
252+ Spe
4 Spd

Moves
-Earthquake
-Close Combat
-Rock Polish
-Stone Edge

Terrakion is intended to stand by itself. It doesn't need a baton passer to work, nor does it need a Pokemon to baton pass to. It is not my main baton pass target, but nevertheless can use shell smash effectively in a pinch. In the late game, if there is a late game, my baton pass chain is usually crippled and my opponent's defensive core extremely weak or nonexistent. This is where Terrakion shines. Essentially, its job is to clean up the remains of my opponent's team after my main, baton pass dependent attackers are dealt with. Its 3 attacking moves give it nice STABs and coverage. Rock polish makes it hard to revenge kill, since I didn't want to use a scarf to maintain versatility.

This team has been doing well on Pokemon Showdown (it's 8-3 after the new leaderboards went up) but I think it still needs a little tweaking. Mainly, I'm looking for a way to deal with Scizor. So far, all of my losses came from Scizor's STAB bullet punch (although 2 of my wins were against Scizor as well). Finally, I'm not looking to change the basic infrastructure of this team,as it has been doing pretty well, although all ideas are appreciated. I'm looking more for ways to tweak it to optimize its performance without giving up its raw power. Thanks in advance for your help!
 
Hi ntiller,

I don't find baton pass teams very good because Perish Song's counts are passed through and baton pass is easily stopped by priority. If you really want this team to be affective then I prefer using the item Mental Herb. This stops taunt and you can use it to get a free baton pass on prankster switch ins. Perish song is the big question here. How do we stop it? We can't. Its your luck. Just kidding, its soundproof but no good OU pokemon with it.

Gorebyss is NU so I recommend switching it to Baton Pass Gliscor. It can easily pick up Swords Dance and Rock Polish with Poison Heal and either attack using its crazy strong Earthquakes or Baton Pass to another member. My next question is why is Terrakion using life orb? I would recommend using a Choice Scarf set. Terrakion is their for revenge killing. Gliscor can save a turn by just Baton Passing a Swords Dance. Take of Rock Polish and switch it to Sacred Sword. This is useful if you are worried about Defense Booster and the Defense loss making you OHKOed by priority when you close combats stack up. Why is Genesect holding a white herb? Smeargle's +Spd is gould enough and Genesect resists a load of priority moves like Ice Shard, Extremespeed, and Bullet Punch. Give it an Expert Belt. This is much better because of its amazing coverage. If your running BP reciever haxorus, then imagine what would happen if your baton passers die of priority? Haxorus is walled by Ferrothorn, Forretress, Skarmory, Hippowdon, Scizor, Heatran, and wow this could go for while. I recommend making it a DD set. Not only does it have to focus on BP but it can make its own!

Priority users such as TechniLoom, SD Lucarion, CB Scizor, and CB Mamoswine are big problems to this team. Even with your amazing boosts, these can break through because priority kills all. These speed EVs don't really make your life easier because Venasaur and Stoutland can just come into your shell smash and attack using STAB return or Superpower on your pass to another pokemon. Scarfers can easily defeat smeargle because he is so fragile. Sandstorm and Hail damage stacks up after a while. I'm sorry to say that baton pass teams aren't that good this generation, but otherwise this is a good baton pass team. Nice Work!

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 124 Atk / 132 Def
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
-Swords Dance
-Rock Polish
-Earthquake
-Baton Pass

tl:dr
Gorebyss --> Gliscor
Genesect White Herb --> Expert Belt
Haxorus White Herb --> Life Orb
Rock Polish --> Sacred Sword
Life Orb --> Choice Scarf
Espeon White Herb --> Mental Herb
 
Hi striker, thanks for the rate. Perish song isn't as big a deal as you'd think. The main perish song user in OU is Politoed. Politoed can sometimes be outsped by Smeargle letting me spore it before it sings. Even if it gets to use perish song, it still goes to sleep. Then I switch to Gorebyss (my other smash passer) and proceed to set up. Gorebyss is used because of its ability to pass shell smash. Its tier is irrelevant (Smeargle is RU, but still great). Gliscor gives me 2 pokemon with a serious ice beam weakness and it cannot set up Genesect very well. Also, shell smash is so much better than any of Gliscor's set up moves.
Mental herb doesn't remove shell smash's stat decreases, so I don't see why I should use it. I especially don't see why it would go on Espeon, since Espeon has magic bounce. Terrakion used to be scarfed, but the ability to switch between close combat, earthquake and stone edge has been worth the speed drop. Also, the speed drop is partially made up with agility (I don't know why I'd ever need sacred sword and close combat in the same set). You are right that priority is a huge problem for this team. However, it's more of a problem as I'm setting up (smeargle with a broken sash can get ko'd before it gets to use baton pass) than after I've set up. Once i'm set up, my sweepers can take the occasional mach punch (because they have white herb).
 
ntiller said:
Hi striker, thanks for the rate. Perish song isn't as big a deal as you'd think. The main perish song user in OU is Politoed. Politoed can sometimes be outsped by Smeargle letting me spore it before it sings. Even if it gets to use perish song, it still goes to sleep. Then I switch to Gorebyss (my other smash passer) and proceed to set up. Gorebyss is used because of its ability to pass shell smash. Its tier is irrelevant (Smeargle is RU, but still great). Gliscor gives me 2 pokemon with a serious ice beam weakness and it cannot set up Genesect very well. Also, shell smash is so much better than any of Gliscor's set up moves.
Mental herb doesn't remove shell smash's stat decreases, so I don't see why I should use it. I especially don't see why it would go on Espeon, since Espeon has magic bounce. Terrakion used to be scarfed, but the ability to switch between close combat, earthquake and stone edge has been worth the speed drop. Also, the speed drop is partially made up with agility (I don't know why I'd ever need sacred sword and close combat in the same set). You are right that priority is a huge problem for this team. However, it's more of a problem as I'm setting up (smeargle with a broken sash can get ko'd before it gets to use baton pass) than after I've set up. Once i'm set up, my sweepers can take the occasional mach punch (because they have white herb).
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Oh, yeah I forgot about magic bounce. Sorry. White Herb is used on three pokemon and you will probably only will have an oppurtunity once so White herb is useless. Genesect covers Ice-Type issues so you really don't have a problem with that. In Gorebyss, Heatran can shake off a +2 Hydro Pump and phaze and hippowdon phazes everything. This is why I recommende Gliscor. Sorry, if I was a little lazy doing the rate. Well, I don't care if you don't appreciate my hard work. This took 43 mins about. Whatever, I wont rate your thing next time. I could just ride my ripstick or study instead. Did you test this?
 
Yes, I did test this team. Right now it's 22-6 on pokemon showdown. And I'm sorry if I offended you and I appreciate the time you put in. However, Heatran cannot shake off a +2 hydro pump. I've hit heatran with it twice, once at 100% and once at 87%, and both times it was a KO. Hippopowdon cannot phaze against Gorebyss because Gorebyss can KO it with hydro pump or ice beam first. That's part of the reason Gorebyss has aggressive stats and two attacking moves. As I've said before, Gliscor cannot use shell smash. Shell smash is a much more powerful move to pass than swords dance or agility. Although Gliscor is the better pokemon generally (which is why it's a higher tier), Gorebyss is the better baton passer. As far as white herb goes, it is important for me to be able to pass to a variety of pokemon, and not have them get KO'd as they switch in. Also, you're incorrect in that I often do pass multiple shell smashes in a game. If they lead with a pokemon slower than Smeargle, Smeargle's sash doesn't get broken during the first pass attempt. When this happens, Smeargle can usually pass again. Also, even if Smeargle's sash breaks, Gorebyss can also pass at least 1 shell smash. This is why I have multiple white herbs. I do appreciate your comments, and am going to look into scarfed terrakion again. However, as far as Gliscor goes, I'm still not sure why you want to run it over Gorebyss, besides the fact that it's higher tier. Can you please explain it to me, so that I can better understand your constructive criticism? Thanks a lot :)
 
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