Breeding Secret: Confirmed for D/P!

Hey everyone, Im glad to announce that the breeding secret from the ADV generation is still in Diamond and Pearl! If you didnt already know, I discovered a secret a few years ago when playing around with breeding in my Ruby version. I found that right when an Egg is created (the Day Care man has it), the Pokemon inside already had its gender and ability set in stone, and once you took it, it was then that its nature and IVs were created for it. I spread it through Gamefaqs, but I still dont think its a very known fact, yet it helped me and some others breed a couple Pokemon with a required ability much easier...

Later when Emerald came out, someone using the secret discovered that in that game, gender, ability, AND nature were all set in stone when the Egg was created. Only IVs were ever random anymore when you took the Egg. This sounded too good to be true, but it was, and its likely a result of the new Everstone feature. I was able to breed many competitive worthy Pokemon by merely soft resetting in front of the Day Care Man and hatching the Egg over and over until the IVs were right...

Now come Diamond/Pearl. I just got to Solaceon Town about an hour ago, and when I saw the Day Care, I wasted no time. I decided to use Bidoof as my test, as a common Pokemon with 2 abilities and 50% gender chances. I went down to catch a couple of Bibarel, then let them have their fun. When I saw the Day Care Man looking to the right, I saved it in front of him, then took the Egg. Did the tedious part, then hatched a level 1 Male Bidoof with Lonely nature and Unaware ability. I did a brief estimate of IVs at level 5, then soft resetted and hatched the Egg again. This hatchling was again a Male Lonely Unaware Bidoof. Its starting stats were a bit different, so I immediately knew the IVs were not the same. I did one last test, and once again a Male Lonely Unaware Bidoof hatched. Extremely low chance of all that 3 times in a row...

So there you have it. IVs are the only random things when you take an Egg from the Day Care Man. The advantage of this secret is that you can "lock" a necessary nature and ability and even gender into an Egg before you take it, then just keep hatching that Egg over and over until you get some satisfying IVs. The disadvantages are that you dont get to hatch multiple Eggs, and you cant do an IV battle with this method. I prefer this way though, it has saved me much time with certain Pokemon that need one ability over the other...

Whoo, I didnt expect to type that much... Hmm, if someone deems this off topic or something, I will gladly summarize the info and post it in an info thread...
 
Excellent. Once I finish my army of synch Abras with different natures, life will become much easier. Good to know that this still holds.

Also, I assume the everstone stuff still holds as well, right?
 
Good discovery. I'd like to confirm (actually this is confirmed by loadingNOW, not me) that IVs are generated as soon as you go get the egg, and so they're not set in stone the moment the egg is created. So you can reload until the IVs you want appear with your preferred nature, ability and gender. That makes IV breeding even easier.
 
This is actually really wonderful.

This way, I can get a few eggs with the right nature/trait, save right before they hatch, and repeatedly reset their IV's. This is really fun if you have like 6 eggs of the right nature/trait. =D

Everstone/Magma Armor stuff still works, right?

EDIT: nvm i misinterpreted
 
I'm pretty sure the nature was set when you actually got the egg from the man in Emearld. I remember saving before talking to the Daycare Man to get a Ralts with a certain nature really quickly.
 
Metalkid said:
You'd be better off just hatching a lot more eggs all at once, unless the gender that you want was under 50%.
It's slightly faster, when the probability of getting a correct egg is about 25% (so if you need both gender and nature, or nature and ability) to soft reset, grab eggs to fill out your party, hatch them all, soft reset again, repeat. If it's under 25%, it can actually be faster to do it this way.
 
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