Bulky Sweeper Team (A.K.A. The Furious Five and That Other Guy)

Darkling27

Hello there, denizens of RMT! Today i bring to you my now standard team, a wondrous combination of five of my favorite pokemon (and Gliscor). The team emcompasses my usual strategy, which typically consists of 2-3 bulkish set up sweepers, a utility, 1-2 tanks and a dedicated wall. I haven't tested it too thoroughly but it seems to have pretty good synergy, so without further ado, here are your stars!

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
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Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 Spd / 100 HP / 156 Def
Jolly Nature
- Substitute
- Protect
- Earthquake
- Toxic

Gliscor. What to say about Gliscor. He would be perfect if it weren't for his crippling weakness to Ice, but we will get to that later. Gliscors standard SubToxic set has remained tried and true for me for a long time, with one minor variation. His speed is maxed. This allows him to get off many more Toxics on Pokes that would normally be faster than him, as well as set up Subs on the same. After that, wall and stall, baby. His 4x Ice weakness can be a pain, but numerous other mons on my team can take an ice beam or punch without batting an eyelid.

Greninja @ Life Orb
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Ability: Protean
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Hasty Nature
- Spikes
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Hidden Power [Grass]

My wonderful utility and many times lead, Greninja's great Speed and almost perfect typing synergy with Aegislash isn't what earned him a part on my team (although it sure helped). Protean was the kicker here. With spikes he can gain a valuable immunity to Tbolt and Thunderwave, and HP grass counters Rotom-W hard. Ice beam and Surf, whilst not lending the best coverage, allow me to KO threats i have trouble with otherwise, such as Dnite, Salamence and Heatran.

Aegislash (F) @ Weakness Policy
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Ability: Stance Change
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Spd / 200 Atk
Jolly Nature
- Autotomize
- Swords Dance
- Sacred Sword
- Shadow Claw

My flagship sweeper (and only IRL shiny) is Aegislash. I've opted for a bit of a different set here, running double dance and Weakness Policy and forgoing Kings Shield. This combo will hopefully give me the edge on my counters, and brings a world of hurt to those Fire and Ground types who can't OHKO me. The Speed EV's are there so that i outspeed all of OU after autotomize (minus Jolteon, whose coverage is so terrible he isn't a threat anyway). After that, I can SD if i need the extra power, or, if my Weakness Policy has activated, outspeed and sweep.

Goodra @ Assault Vest
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Ability: Gooey
EVs: 100 SDef / 156 HP / 252 SAtk
Calm Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Dragon Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Bomb

My Special Wall/Tank, this thing isn't to be messed with. The average Ice Beam does 24% to Assault Vest Goodra. Then what happens? I choose my coverage move of choice and wipe the opponent off the face of WiFi/PS. Decent synergy with Gliscor helps too, as it can essentially absorb his 2 most common threats, Hydro Pump and Ice Beam. Not much else to say here, he essentially has become my panic pokemon for special attackers.

Hydreigon @ Leftovers
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Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 Atk
Hasty Nature
- Superpower
- Fire Blast
- Draco Meteor
- Dark Pulse

My (slightly less tanky) special attacker, Hydreigon is a good one to send in when i dont have any other good ideas. Usually able to take a hit and with good synergy with Aegislash, he can pop off STAB Draco Meteors and destroy several checks and counters. His lowish speed can be a burden, but his excellent coverage helps overcome that.

Talonflame
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Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Acrobatics
- Flare Blitz
- Will-O-Wisp
- Swords Dance

One of my favorites of all time, Talonflame is a revenge killer/sweeper in the purest sense. He's also my first line of defense against Darmanitan, who can OHKO Aegislash. Priority Acrobatics does wonders, and when boosted by SD is pretty much the strongest priority in the game thanks to Gale Wings. Will-o-Wisp is there to cripple those he can't OHKO so their attack is lowered and some residual damage is done if Talon fails to survive.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated, I would love to know any way to make this team better. Thanks for reading!

~The Darkling
 
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I'm sorry for the comment. I was simply trying to show that I thought gliscor would be a better Pokemon if he did not have the 4x Ice weakness. I have changed the comment and realize it was a fairly immature and facetious thing to say. Now, if anyone would like to comment on my team itself I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you, however, for correcting me.
 
Mamoswine takes a ump on basically your entire team.He can Stone Edge Talonflame, Ice Shard/Icicle Crash Hydreigon, Goodra, and Gliscor. And Earthquake destroys Aegislash.
 
Snowstar said:
Mamoswine takes a ump on basically your entire team.He can Stone Edge Talonflame, Ice Shard/Icicle Crash Hydreigon, Goodra, and Gliscor. And Earthquake destroys Aegislash.
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Thank you very much. I will point out that he does not OHKO Aegislash and Aegislash can potentially OHKO in return due to WP+SD, but I forgot about stone edge. Will look into a possible counter. Thanks!
 
Once Gliscor and Goodra are gone, powerful attacks can take down your team. Stealth rock can be a problem, as Talonflame is 4x weak to it. Once Gliscor is down, SD Talonflame can pose a large problem for your team. After a swords dance + Life Orb + SR, everything on your team dies, and it can take down most of your team before recoil takes its toll.
 
Hjwang said:
Once Gliscor and Goodra are gone, powerful attacks can take down your team. Stealth rock can be a problem, as Talonflame is 4x weak to it. Once Gliscor is down, SD Talonflame can pose a large problem for your team. After a swords dance + Life Orb + SR, everything on your team dies, and it can take down most of your team before recoil takes its toll.
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Thank you very much for that analysis. I tend to hold back on Goodra and Gliscor, but SR+Talonflame was something I hadn't considered.
 
I suggest using a ChestoResto Rotom Wash in lieu of Goodra, as it can stop your Talonflame and Mamoswine problems easily. It can also take a Surf or Ice beam for your Gliscor easily, and is not worn down as fast as it can use rest to regain its health.

Here is the set.
Rotom-Wash@Chesto Berry
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/212 Def/44 Spe
-Hydro Pump
-Volt Switch
-Will-o-Wisp
-Rest

44 speed EVs are for outspeeding Belly Drum Azumarill, which happens to also trouble your team. If you need more special bulk, switch the defense EVs for special ones.

Also, I noticed that you have no rapid spinner or defogger, so if your opponent lays down hazards, they stay.

You should also fix that Talonflame set. The lack of an item really kills you. I suggest running Sitrus Berry as an item and also Brave Bird over Acrobatics. The berry will help negate SR damge and/or recoil. Roost could be used over WoW, if you take my Rotom set.

I'll try to find a solid SR setter for you, as spikes take a long time to set up and can be easily spun away.

Edit: Hydreigon could use life orb over leftovers, as it need the additional power to break through walls.
 
Hjwang said:
I suggest using a ChestoResto Rotom Wash in lieu of Goodra, as it can stop your Talonflame and Mamoswine problems easily. It can also take a Surf or Ice beam for your Gliscor easily, and is not worn down as fast as it can use rest to regain its health.

Here is the set.
Rotom-Wash@Chesto Berry
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/212 Def/44 Spe
-Hydro Pump
-Volt Switch
-Will-o-Wisp
-Rest

44 speed EVs are for outspeeding Belly Drum Azumarill, which happens to also trouble your team. If you need more special bulk, switch the defense EVs for special ones.

Also, I noticed that you have no rapid spinner or defogger, so if your opponent lays down hazards, they stay.

You should also fix that Talonflame set. The lack of an item really kills you. I suggest running Sitrus Berry as an item and also Brave Bird over Acrobatics. The berry will help negate SR damge and/or recoil. Roost could be used over WoW, if you take my Rotom set.

I'll try to find a solid SR setter for you, as spikes take a long time to set up and can be easily spun away.

Edit: Hydreigon could use life orb over leftovers, as it need the additional power to break through walls.
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Thank you immensely. I can't say I've been playing competitive too long so I'm not always sure the best option. ChestoRest Rotom-W will replace Hydreigon. I understand you suggest replacing Goodra, but I have found him extremely valuable in several situations and would prefer not to give him up. As far as talonflame, I was initially running acrobatics for lack or recoil damage, but I see myself taken out so easily that you are right, I do need BB. Thanks again for your help, I really do appreciate it.
 
Maybe bulky Landorus-T could be used over Gliscor? It wouldn't be able to toxic stall, but has SR and could form a solid VoltTurn core with Rotom-Wash.

Excadrill could also be used as both a spinner and a Stealth Rocker, but lacks the bulk of Gliscor but has more offensive presence.

If you are interested in changing Gliscor out for either one of these pokemon, tell me and I will provide the set if needed.
 
Hjwang said:
Maybe bulky Landorus-T could be used over Gliscor? It wouldn't be able to toxic stall, but has SR and could form a solid VoltTurn core with Rotom-Wash.

Excadrill could also be used as both a spinner and a Stealth Rocker, but lacks the bulk of Gliscor but has more offensive presence.

If you are interested in changing Gliscor out for either one of these pokemon, tell me and I will provide the set if needed.
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Thank you again. If you could provide the Landorus set I would appreciate it. I may not switch them out due to the effectiveness I've found SubToxic to have but will certainly experiment. Again, thank you for the suggestions.
 
Darkling27 said:
I'm sorry for the comment. I was simply trying to show that I thought gliscor would be a better Pokemon if he did not have the 4x Ice weakness. I have changed the comment and realize it was a fairly immature and facetious thing to say. Now, if anyone would like to comment on my team itself I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you, however, for correcting me.
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I'll look at it in depth when I have time, but as I can see off offf the bat, don't put lefties on hydriegon, give it an LO or a scarf.
 
Darkling27 said:
Thank you again. If you could provide the Landorus set I would appreciate it. I may not switch them out due to the effectiveness I've found SubToxic to have but will certainly experiment. Again, thank you for the suggestions.
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Here is the set:
(Bulky Pivot)
Landorus-T @ Leftovers
Ability:Levitate
Nature: Impish
EVs:252 HP /172 Def/ 44 Spe
-U-Turn
-Earthquake
-Stealth Rock
-Knock Off/Toxic

Notes: Forms a very solid VoltTurn core with Rotom that can really wear down opponents. EVs + Intimidate make it a complete defensive tank. It can still hit hard off of its base 145 attack. Knock Off or Toxic is your call, both having obvious advantages. Please note that if you do use toxic, you won't be able to stall the same way that you would be able to if you used Gliscor. Instead this set is a pivot set, meaning in most cases, you come in, intimidate, do your thing, and GTFO with u-turn. This set steals momentum from your opponent and puts a stop to threatening physical sweepers. The VoltTurn core will keep your opponent on their toes and will help bring your sweepers in at the perfect time. Lando-T in most cases is superior to Gliscor, except when it comes to toxic stalling. However, using it does require more prediction and experience. If you would like additional help, contact me in smogon. Good luck with your team!
 
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