[BW OU] Close to perfect coverage

Hello Smogon - after several months of work, i would like to present you a team, that went through hundreds of calculations and changes, just to become what it is so far - an almost perfect balanced BW OU-team. So, i don't want to talk much, just let me show you how the story goes!

Let's check the balance of the types!:

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As you can see, every tipe is covered a lot of times and there is no big weak in TYPES (not pokeyman), that i'll have to be worried about! There is a immunity to water, so i dont have to worry because of the 3 weaknesses for example! Even the surprise in form of sun teams is something that i dont have to be worried about, thanks to Tyranitar and Jirachi!

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Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 220 SDef / 32 Spe - Tomahawk9-fix
Careful (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Iron Head
- Wish
- Protect

My little sunshine or star :D It does so many jobs in defending or supporting the team, thats not cool for the opponent! It locks Outrage and counters with, let's hope, with paralysis or slows down some ugly chlorophyll / swift swimmers. And the special defensive split allows it to come in moves like Bullet Punch, Draco Meteors, Surfs and whatever is out there! Wish Supports helps the whole team to survive a little bit longer, because there is no spinner in my team!


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Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 SDef
Brave (+Atk, -Spd) - Tomahawk9-fix
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Beam
- Fire Blast
- Crunch

You can't go without a weatherchanger today - you need one! Even there are some teams out there, that try to stop them without Tyranitar, Ninetales, Politoed or Abomasnow! Now, with the expected rise of sun, Tyranitar is just more needed, but works pretty good in stopping Ninetales, Aboma or Ice Beam-Politoed! The split is insane in switching in the named three, even it knows to surprise Gliscor, Ferrothorn, Mence or Dragonite, unboosted, i know! The only thing i miss is a great pokemon in my team, that blasts Ferrothorn to oblivion! Even Gliscor, Rotom or Gastrodon can stop him with Burn or Taunt.


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Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Atk / 200 Def
Impish (+Def, -SAtk)
- Taunt
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Swords Dance

Skarmory was in his spot, but not for a long time, Terrakion is just to powerful to be stopped by Skarmory, so Gliscor claimed his place back! It works great as a Stallbreaker and the almost full defense split is great against pokemon like ferrothorn, terrakion, conkeldurr, choiceband scizor and companions! Toxic Orb is a sure thing, now that it immunes Gliscor to any status with Poison heal!


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Gastrodon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Storm Drain
EVs: 164 HP / 128 SAtk / 216 SDef
Calm (+SDef, -Atk)
- Recover
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Scald
- Toxic

Ah Gastrodon. I don't want to tell that i was a pioneer in using him, but i used him when he was back then in the +100 rankings! But he is a blessing for and against rain-teams or stopping pokemon like Rotom without WilloWisp or Quagsire with Waterfall only. Hell he even counters Gyarados and Starmie in a way, that not even lanturn could dream of last generation! Toxic is against other Gastrodon, Rotom, Dragonite and many more - two attacking moves & one status should be great for the moment!


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Rotom-W @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 192 Def / 64 SAtk
Bold (+Def, -Atk)
- Will-O-Wisp
- Volt Switch
- Pain Split
- Hydro Pump

Tentacruel was here some weeks ago, but the additional weakness to ground & electric-moves was just to much for tenta to handle, so i replaced him with sooo many other bulky waters, but only Rotom could save me from disgrace in this pittyful metagame! WillOWisp is sure great against physical attackers and my first option before i attack - why attack with less if i can damage him for the rest of the game??! Volt Switch is obviously for scouting and some nice damage against bulky waters or other electric-weaklings! Painsplit is a little bit recovery and hydropump is always great when battling rain dance teams :D


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Landorus (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Force
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly (+Spe, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- U-turn
- Hammer Arm

I didn't want to use Landorus because of his fragility like almost every sweeper has. But damn it does soooo much damage in sandstorm, thats sick! It almost 2hkos fullSpDef Ferrothorn with Earthquake, doing 39.2 - 46.3 %, 6 % more with Hammer Arm. If it does less, i know what to do :D Because it isnt flexible with a scarf i have to abstain from using Hidden Power Ice, because once is HP Ice released my opponent doesnt like to switch Gliscor in a HP :(
It's also my first option in countering Volcarona or injured Nite or others. Clear Fact! It rocks in Sandstorm and its worth every turn used!


positive aspects of the team:
! - Sandstorm is beside Rain the best weather out there and has the most pokemon, that benefits of it! True Story!
! - Three of my Pokémon are immunte to Spikes, 4 are immune to Toxic Spikes!
! - None of my Pokémon takes significant damage from Rocks, so i dont really have to watch out to keep Marvel Scale alive for exampe!
! - Landorus is the best Sand-Revenger, now Excadrill is gone!
! - Tyranitar and Jirachi together are like Troy - but the Spikes are the Trojan Horse!
! - cool type-coverage - and even close to great allround coverage!

negative aspects of the team:
x - no spinner makes me vulnerable to spikes
x - Spikes and Toxic Spikes destroy Jirachi & Gastrodon
x - Rain-Weak, once Gastrodon and Tyranitar are gone!
x - Gliscor loses bulk if it needs to check / counter Lucario!

Problems
Lucario & Deoxys-S


Importable!
Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Iron Head
- Wish
- Protect

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Stealth Rock
- Fire Blast
- Ice Beam
- Crunch

Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Atk / 200 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Taunt
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Swords Dance

Gastrodon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Storm Drain
EVs: 164 HP / 144 Def / 124 SAtk / 76 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Recover
- Toxic
- Scald
- Hidden Power [Electric]

Rotom-W @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 192 Def / 64 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Will-O-Wisp
- Volt Switch
- Pain Split
- Hydro Pump

Landorus (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Force
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- U-turn
- Hammer Arm


Former members:

Trikephalo (Hydreigon) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Flamethrower
- Dark Pulse
- Surf


replaced by Landorus

Tentoxa (Tentacruel) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Liquid Ooze
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Knock Off
- Rapid Spin
- Toxic Spikes
- Scald


replaced by Rotom-W

current testing:

Scarf-Terrakion > Scarf-Landorus
Skarmory & Slowbro > Gliscor & Rotom-W


So, thanks for your rates and sorry for my grammar-mistakes - but its late and i dont really want to watch out for capital letters :x


in love
Ash
 
Well, first of all, your EV spreads could use some work. Jirachi prefers a 252 HP / 224 SpD / 32 Spe spread to outspeed Jolly Tyranitar and everything slower. You also could consider a Brave Nature on Tyranitar to secure the 2HKO on 252 / 252+ Reuniclus with Crunch. Gastrodon needs a simple 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD spread, and Earth Power over Hidden Power Electric, while Landorus is better off with a Jolly Nature to outspeed +1 Volcarona.

Onto the actual rate, you might trouble with Dragon Dancing Dragons. Dragonite, for example, can set up against Gastrodon, Landorus locked in anything but Stone Edge, or Jirachi and Rotom-W (with Lum Berry). After that, nothing on your team can take both an Outrage and an Earthquake. Landorus trying to revenge kill gets destroyed by ExtremeSpeed. (+1 Outrage vs Gliscor does 59% - 70% while Ice Fang does 54% maximum with Multiscale).
You have no safe switchin into Choice Band Terrakion either. Gliscor gets 2HKOed by Stone Edge, while all others on your team can't switchin on Close Combat (besides Landorus who gets OHKOed by Stone Edge). Air Balloon variants can also cause trouble, setting up Rock Polish against Tyranitar, Landorus locked in HP Ice or Stone Edge, then set up a Swords Dance against Gliscor, and KO with Stone Edge if you're below ~70% (or if he sets up Swords Dance on the switch, he can 2HKO).

To fix these problems, I first of all recommend using Skarmory over Gliscor. He does a similar job at beating physical attackers, but also sets up Spikes, and more importantly, takes on Dragon Dancing Dragons quite easily, thanks to its great bulk and Steel/Flying-typing. He also helps against stuff like HP Ice Landorus. He can still take on stall teams with Taunt, and setting up Spikes all over them which really limits their switching. Second, I recommend using a Slowbro over Rotom-W. Rotom-W's job is beating some physical attackers Gliscor can't handle, but Slowbro does a better job at that (especially if you're using Skarmory > Gliscor). His job of beating rain is kinda redundant when you have Gastrodon as well. Slowbro is also pretty much the perfect counter to Terrakion. He doesn't get 2HKOed even by CB X-Scissor, has Regeneration for great healing on the switchin, and can take out Terrakion with Psychic. He also has reliably recovery in Slack Off. The exact sets are:

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Skarmory @ Shed Shell | Sturdy
Impish | 252 HP / 164 Def / 92 Spe
Roost / Spikes / Whirlwind / Taunt


The speed EVs let him outspeed RestTalk Gyarados and Taunt him before he can Roar / Sleep Talk.

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Slowbro @ Leftovers | Regenerator
Bold | 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Scald / Psychic / Flamethrower / Slack Off


Good luck!
 
Hello, pretty standard sand as a team, Gliscor do it with the standard set like this:
Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 Spd
Impish Nature (+ Def,-Satkar)
- Swords Dance
- Facade / Ice Fang
- Protect
- Earthquake

With this set I think you can solve the problem of lucario, but also as suggested by Tomahawk9 Skarmory is a good solution, good luck to your team.
 
Nasty Plot Celebi (w/ Earth Power), Swords Dance Toxicroak, Shell Smash Cloyster, and although fallen in usage as of late, Swords Dance Virizion can all cause problems for your team. Celebi, 'Croak and Virizion get set-up opportunities on a choice-locked Landorus, and Cloyster can force out Gliscor; Celebi can then at the very least 2HKO every member, your best bet being Jirachi's Paralysis (which Celebi can switch out against), which doesn't always occur, and risks getting 2HKOed. The other threats can also sweep you outright after acquiring a boost, with a little prior damage.

I would suggest trying a Choice Scarf Terrakion over Landorus; as you mentioned, you dislike the frailty of Landorus, an advantage Terrakion has due to the 1.5x Special Defense boost in the Sandstorm, and seeing as certain threats you want to revenge will be Special Attackers, this could be useful. Terrakion can also revenge kill all of the aforementioned threats with the appropriate move. Celebi is taken out by X-Scissor, 'Croak by Earthquake (while getting a boost from Sucker Punch, if you can lure it out), and destroying Cloyster and Virizion with Close Combat (the latter after defense drops from Close Combat). Lastly, if you can lure out and maim Gliscor with Ice Beam with Tyranitar, Terrakion can sweep provided the circumstances with its superb STAB combo. The downside of the change would be nothing more than the 3 Grass- type weaknesses and 1 resist, and although it looks bad on paper, this is not the case; seeing as the most common users are Celebi, Virizion, and Ferrothorn, and since you have them covered with different members, this shouldn't be too much of an issue. Also, that 1 resist happens to be Jirachi, something with a Recovery move.

As for minor changes, not sure if you want all those EVs on Rotom-W invested into Defense, when you can outspeed certain threats and hit harder albiet in exchange for the (uneeded) bulk with 112 HP / 252 SpA / 144 Spe Modest.
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Terrakion @ Choice Scarf | Justified
Jolly | 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Stone Edge / Close Combat / Earthquake / X-Scissor
 
Thanks afterburn, blank & hawk, you guys show me that I didnt have faced all threats so far.

I will fix the Tyranitar and Jirachi-stuff. I didn't change Gastrodon since the ban of Tornadus, because Ice Beam / Scald needed the power-boost to KO Tornadus and other speciall defensive weak Mons. But why not the extra special defense ^_^

@Rotom / Skarmory-stuff.
I would love to replace Rotom with Slowbro, but then i'll lose a Spikes-immunity - but i guess i can handle that with Flamethrower what Rotom missed - sounds good in theory - gonna be tested!

Same goes with Gliscor.

@Blank & Gliscor - will definitely test it ^_^

@tom - yeah, you're right, will see how Terra works, but sounds a lot better than super fast Landorus! Maybe test Rock Polish aswell!
 
Rotom-W doesn't work well in the sand, plus you already have a bulky water type. Consider swapping him for Skarmory or Ferrothorn.

Skarmory @ Leftovers
252 Hp/252 Def/4 Sp. Def
Impish
-Spikes
-Roost
-Whirlwind
-Brave Bird

With all your electric immune types, Skarmory should be able to fit in rather effectively, spamming Spikes and countering Scarf Terrakion, Scizor, Haxorus, and other nasty physical attackers. Whirlwind will allow you to put on nice damage so that Landorus can easily sweep.

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
252 Hp/248 Sp. Def/8 Def
Impish
-Protect
-Leech Seed
-Spikes
-Power Whip

Very similar to Skarmory, except a nasty 4x weakness to fire. However, Ferrothorn has a lot to offer your team, like setting up hazards, walling practically any water, rock, or ground type, and able to 2KO many threats with Power Whip.
 
You know, you do kind of have a weakness to grass-types, especially ones like NP celebi. Other than revenging with landorus, wherein lies your counter to those?
 
I would keep Rotom-W, since besides Gastrodon(who gets tricked a lot, imo) is your only defense from rain teams. You could replace Rotom-W with a Celebi, still keeping your rain check. And I know you fixed it, but you left Adamant on Landorus. Oh, and a fully special defensive Gastrodon. 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpDef
 
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