CAP 8 CAP 8 - Part 8 - Stat Spread Poll

[cyberzero]

Our Pokemon so far:

A Deck Knight/tennisace collaborative

108/60/118/112/70/80 BST: 548

PSweep: 83, Rank -2: Moderately Bad
PTank: 175, Rank 6; Amazing
PSweep: 144, Rank 4: Very Good
PTank: 113, Rank 1: Above Average
ODB: -10.7, Moderate Bias to Defense
PSB: -6.2 Slight Bias to Special.
BSR: 417 (Very Good)

Example Set: Defensive Support

I like all my spreads to have as much variety as possible while remaining good at each of the things they can do. The following is an example of a supportive set, with multiple damage calculations. I may add another set that displays more offensive capability, but essentially you know the offensive and defensive calcs already:

If you run Max SA treat it exactly as you would Salamence or Latias, with perhaps a few additional points at the margins.

Defensively this has the same HP/Defense and similar SpD to Hippowdon. If you are running Max HP/Defense with Bold simply apply types properly and add a little extra damage on the margins of the special side.

Movepool has not been decided yet, these are only to display what could be.

EVs: 240 HP / 72 Def / 140 SA / 56 Spe, Bold, Leftovers.

Stats: 417 HP / 140 Atk / 319 Defense / 295 SpA / 176 SpD / 210 Spe

Purpose: This set outspeeds the listed Agiligross, has good defensive capabilities but does not shirk offense. Paralyze an incoming threat and then nuke it, or Magnet Rise before a predicted Earthquake. You could also Light Screen before a predicted Ice Beam. Basically set up whatever would benefit your team best at the moment. This set will likely only utilize STAB attacks for offense. However, I will list a full arsenal of attacks with these EVs.

[U][B]Offensive Calculations:[/B][/U]

[B]Draco Meteor:[/B]
[U]302 HP/296 SDef[/U]
Offensive CM Latias: 100-117% [B]OHKO[/B]
[U]
338 HP/296 SDef[/U]
Defensive CM Latias: 89-105% [B]OHKO with SR[/B]

[U]332 HP / 176 SDef[/U]
-SDef (Naughty/Naive/Rash) Salamence: 152-179% [B]OHKO[/B]

[U]302 HP / 196 SDef[/U]
Scarf/ Band Flygon: 151-178% [B]OHKO[/B]

[U]420 HP / 180 SDef[/U]
Standard Hippowdon: 58-69%

[U]404 HP / 188 SDef[/U]
Sub Rhyperior: 58-69%

[U]362 HP / 156 SDef[/U]
Standard Mamoswine: 78-92% [B]2HKO[/B]

[U]282 HP / 166 SDef[/U]
Standard Syclant: 94-111% [B]reliable OHKO[/B]

[U]293 HP / 160 SDef[/U]
Naive Infernape: 94-111% [B]reliable OHKO[/B]

[B]Dragon Pulse:[/B]
Offensive CM Latias: 64-74% [B]2HKO[/B]
Defensive CM Latias: 57-68% [B]2HKO[/B]
-SDef (Naughty/Naive/Rash) Salamence: 97-115% [B]reliable OHKO[/B]
Scarf/ Band Flygon: 96-114% [B]reliable OHKO[/B]

Standard Hippowdon: 37-44%
Sub Rhyperior: 37-44%
Standard Mamoswine: 50-59% [B]2HKO with SR[/B]
Naive Infernape: 60-72% [B]2HKO[/B]

[B]Thunder:[/B]
[U]332 HP / 236 SDef[/U]
Standard Gyarados: 195-231% [B]OHKO[/B]

[U]295 HP / 206 SDef[/U]
Spinner Starmie: 126-148% [B]OHKO[/B]

[U]312 HP / 241 SDef[/U]
SubPetaya Empoleon: 101-120% [B]OHKO[/B]

[U]364 HP / 341 SDef[/U]
Support Tentacruel: 61-73% [B]2HKO[/B]
[U]
374 HP / 361 SDef[/U]
SDefensive Haxkiss:56-67% [B]2HKO[/B]

[U]374 HP / 266 SDef[/U]
Scarf Togekiss: 77-90% [B]OHKO with SR[/B]
[U]
414 HP / 236 SDef[/U]
Impish Defensive Arghonaut: 78-92% [B]2HKO[/B]
[U]
414 HP / 296 SDef[/U]
Adamant SDefensive Argonaut: 62-73% [B]2HKO[/B]

[U]334 HP / 176 SDef[/U]
Standard Skarmory: 129-152% [B]OHKO[/B]

[U]324 HP / 248 SDef[/U]
Standard Heatran: 47-55% [B]2HKO with SR[/B]

Standard Syclant: 81-96%
Naive Infernape: 81-96% [B]2HKO[/B]

[B]Thunderbolt:[/B]
Standard Gyarados: 153-181% [B]OHKO[/B]
Spinner Starmie: 99-117% [B]reliable OHKO[/B]
SubPetaya Empoleon: 80-94% [B]2HKO[/B]
Support Tentacruel: 49-58% [B]shaky 2HKO vs. Leftovers[/B]
SDefensive Haxkiss:44-53% [B]2HKO with SR[/B] 
Scarf Togekiss: 60-72% [B]2HKO[/B]
Impish Defensive Arghonaut: 61-72% [B]2HKO[/B]
Adamant SDefensive Argonaut: 49-57% [B]shaky 2HKO vs. Leftovers[/B]
Standard Skarmory: 102-120% [B]OHKO[/B]
Standard Heatran: 37-44%
Standard Syclant: 64-76% [B]2HKO[/B]
Naive Infernape: 64-76% [B]2HKO[/B]

[B]Fire Blast:[/B]
[U]343 HP / 196 SDef[/U]
Bulky CB Scizor: 151-178% [B]OHKO[/B]
[U]
354 HP /156 SDef[/U]
Standard Forretress: 184 - 216% [b]OHKO[/B

[U]342 HP / 236 SDef[/U]
Scarf Jirachi: 63-74% [B]2HKO[/B]

[U]329 HP / 216 SDef[/U]
Agiligross: 71-84% [B]2HKO[/B]
[U]
338 HP / 320 SDef[/U]
Standard Bronzong: 46-55%

[U]324 HP / 176 SDef[/U]
Steel Killer Magnezone: 72-85% [B]2HKO[/B]

Standard Syclant: 217-256% [B]OHKO[/B]
Standard Skarmory: 86-101% [B]reliable OHKO with SR[/B]
Standard Mamoswine: 90-106% [B]OHKO with SR[/B]

[B]Flamethrower:[/B]
Bulky CB Scizor: 120-142% [B]OHKO[/B]
Standard Forretress: 145-172% [B]OHKO[/B]
Standard Syclant : 171-203% [B]OHKO[/B]
Scarf Jirachi 50-59% [B]2HKO[/B]
Agiligross 56-66% [B]2HKO[/B]
Steel Killer Magnezone 57-68% [B]2HKO[/B]
Standard Skarmory 68-80% [B]2HKO[/B]
Standard Mamoswine 71-83% [B]2HKO[/B]

[B]Hydro Pump:[/B]
Standard Hippowdon: 67-79% [B]2HKO[/B]
Sub Rhyperior: 134-158% [B]OHKO[/B]
Standard Mamoswine: 90-106% [B]OHKO with SR[/B]
Standard Heatran: 62-74% [B]2HKO[/B]
Naive Infernape: 107-127% [B]OHKO[/B]

[B]Surf:[/B]
Standard Hippowdon: 53-62% [B]reliable 2HKO[/B]
Sub Rhyperior: 106-126% [B]OHKO[/B]
Standard Mamoswine: 71-83% [B]2HKO[/B]
Standard Heatran: 50-59% [B]2HKO with SR[/B]
Naive Infernape: 86-101% [B]reliable OHKO with SR[/B]

[B][U]Defensive Calculations:[/U][/B]

The following calculations use these conditions: 
1. Defending pokemon uses set and EVs above.
2. Attacking pokemon uses Maximum EVS and Nature.

[U]When calculating boosts:[/U]

[B]+1/Choice Band/Specs:[/B] 67%+ = [B]OHKO[/B], 36%+ = [B]2HKO[/B]
[B]Life Orb: 77%[/B] + = [B]OHKO[/B], 42%+ = [B]2HKO[/B]
[B]Expert Belt/Type Plate:[/B]  84%+ = [B]OHKO[/B] , 45%+ = [B]2HKO[/B]

Obviously if the attacker is not +Atk/SA, reduce damage amount by 10%.
These are designed to give worst case scenarios. If the opponent is running
bulky or mixed sets with little investment/no nature, the damage taken will
be toned down accordingly.

[B]405 Atk:[/B] Adamant Metagross/Salamence/Tyranitar (approx.)
[Assume STAB if matches Steel/Psychic/Dragon/Rock/Dark]
Outrage: 78-92% [B]2HKO[/B]
Meteor Mash: 16-19%
Stone Edge: 32-38%
Dragon Claw: 52-62% [B]2HKO[/B]
Crunch: 26-31%
Zen Headbutt: 26-31%
Explosion: 108-128% [B]OHKO[/B]
Superpower: 26-30%
Earthquake: 43-51% [B]shaky 2HKO with SR vs. Leftovers[/B]
Aqua Tail: 9-11%
Ice Punch: 32-38%

[B]394 Atk:[/B] Adamant Scizor/Breloom/Machamp/Mamoswine
[STAB where indicated]
Focus Punch: 47-56% [B]shaky 2HKO with SR and Leftovers[/B].
Close Combat/Superpower: 38-45% [STAB]
Dynamicpunch: 31-37% [STAB]
Earthquake: 63-75% [STAB] [B]2HKO[/B]
X-Scissor: 25-30% [STAB]
Seed Bomb: 12-15% [STAB]
U-turn: 22-26% [STAB]
Bullet Punch: 9-11% [Tech] [STAB]
Ice Shard: 26-30% [STAB]
Superpower: 25-30%
Earthquake: 42-50% [B]shaky 2HKO with SR vs. Leftovers[/B]
Stone Edge: 21-25%
Ice Punch: 32-37%
Pursuit: 12-15% [Tech], 17-20% (fleeing)

[B]383 Atk:[/B] Adamant Gyarados/Heracross/Azelf/Honchkrow/Electivire (approx.)
[STAB where indicated]
Close Combat: 37-44% [STAB]
Megahorn: 37-44% [STAB]
Bounce: 12-15% [STAB]
Drill Peck: 12-14% [STAB]
Sucker Punch: 24-29% [STAB]
Zen Headbutt: 24-29% [STAB]
Waterfall: 12-14% [STAB]
Brick Break: 23-27% [STAB]
Thunderpunch: 5-6% [STAB]
Night Slash: 21-25% [STAB]
Pursuit: 12-15% [STAB], 24-29% (fleeing)
Explosion: 103-121% [B]OHKO[/B]
Superpower: 24-29%
Cross Chop: 20-24%
Earthquake: 41-48%
Stone Edge: 20-24%
Brick Break: 15-18%
Ice Punch: 30-36%

[B]328 Atk:[/B] Adamant Flygon/Jirachi
[Assume STAB on Dragon/Ground/Steel/Psychic]
Outrage: 63-75% [B]2HKO[/B]
Earthquake: 53-63% [B]2HKO[/B]
Dragon Claw: 43-50%
Iron Head: 10-12%
Zen Headbutt: 21-25%
U-turn: 12-15%
Ice Punch: 26-31%

[U]When calculating boosts:[/U]

[B]+1/Choice Band/Specs:[/B] 67%+ = [B]OHKO[/B], 36%+ = [B]2HKO[/B]
[B]Life Orb: 77%[/B] + = [B]OHKO[/B], 42%+ = [B]2HKO[/B]
[B]Expert Belt/Type Plate:[/B]  84%+ = [B]OHKO[/B] , 45%+ = [B]2HKO[/B]

[B]394 SpA:[/B] Modest Heatran/Gengar/Magnezone
[Assume STAB where indicated]
Fire Blast: 34-40% [STAB]
Flamethrower: 27-32% [STAB]
Thunderbolt: 13-16% [STAB]
Sludge Bomb: 52-61% [B]2HKO[/B] [STAB]
Shadow Ball: 46-54% [B]reliable 2HKO with SR[/B] [STAB]
Flash Cannon: 23-27% [STAB]
Lave Plume: 23-27% [STAB]
Thunderbolt: 9-10%
Dragon Pulse: 69-82% [B]2HKO[/B]
Earth Power: 69-82% [B]2HKO[/B]
Energy Ball: 15-18%
Hidden Power NVE: 13-15%
Hidden Power Neutral: 27-32%
Hidden Power SE: 54-63% [B]2HKO[/B]
[B]
383 SpA:[/B] Modest Zapdos/Azelf
[Assume STAB on Electric/Psychic]
Thunderbolt: 13-16%
Psychic: 50-59% [B]2HKO with SR[/B]
Heat Wave: 18-22%
Flamethrower: 17-20%
Hidden Power NVE: 12-16%
Hidden Power Neutral: 26-30%
Hidden Power SE: 52-61% [B]reliable 2HKO[/B]

[B]350 SpA:[/B] Modest Salamence/Latias/Jolteon
[Assume STAB on Dragon/Psychic/Electric]
Draco Meteor: 142-168% [B]OHKO[/B]
Thunderbolt: 12-14%
Dragon Pulse: 92-108% [B]OHKO with SR[/B]
Psychic: 46-54% [B]shaky 2HKO with SR and Leftovers[/B]
Fire Blast: 20-24%
Hydro Pump: 20-24%
Surf: 16-19%
Shadow Ball: 27-32%
Hidden Power NVE: 12-14%
Hidden Power Neutral: 23-28%
Hidden Power SE: 47-56% [B]shaky 2HKO with SR and Leftovers[/B]
[B]
339 SpA:[/B] Modest Rotom-A/Infernape (approx.)
[STAB where indicated]
Overheat: 34-41% [STAB]
Fire Blast: 29-35% [STAB]
Focus Blast: 59-70% [STAB]
Flamethrower: 23-27% [STAB]
Vacuum Wave: 20-23% [STAB]
Thunderbolt: 11-14% [STAB]
Shadow Ball: 39-47% [STAB]
Overheat: 23-27%
Leaf Storm: 23-27%
Blizzard: 79-94%
Hydro Pump: 20-23%
Air Slash: 12-14%
Hidden Power NVE: 11-13%
Hidden Power Neutral: 23-27%
Hidden Power SE: 46-55% [B]shaky 2HKO with SR and Leftovers[/B]

[COLOR=white][B]Easter Egg: Dragon Dance "Gimmick" set[/B]

EVs: 4 HP/ 252 Attack / 252 Speed, Adamant, Expert Belt.

Stats: 358 HP / 240 Atk / 272 Def / 234 SA / 176 SD / 259 Spe

Reaches 360 Atk / 388 Spe with 1 DD:

[B]Volt Tackle:[/B]
Standard Gyarados: 205-242% [B]OHKO[/B] (number after Intimidate)
Spinner Starmie: 161-191% [B]OHKO[/B]
SubPetaya Empoleon: 150-75% [B]OHKO[/B]
Support Tentacruel: 163-193% [B]OHKO[/B]
SDefensive Haxkiss:116-137% [B]OHKO[/B] 
Scarf Togekiss: 116-137% [B]OHKO[/B]
Impish Defensive Arghonaut: 57-67% [B]2HKO[/B] (unaware factored)
Adamant SDefensive Argonaut: 79-94% [B]2HKO[/B]
Standard Skarmory: 80-95% [B]2HKO[/B]
Standard Heatran: 57-68% [B]2HKO with Stealth Rock[/B]
Standard Syclant: 118-140% [B]OHKO[/B]
Naive Infernape: 118-140% [B]OHKO[/B]
Standard Blissey: 59-70% [B]2HKO[/B]

[B]Outrage:[/B]
Offensive CM Latias: 150-178% [B]OHKO[/B]
Defensive CM Latias: 134-159% [B]OHKO[/B]
-SDef (Naughty/Naive/Rash) Salamence: 101-119% [B]OHKO[/B] (after Intimidate)
Scarf/ Band Flygon: 166-196% [B]OHKO[/B]

Standard Hippowdon: 30-35%
Sub Rhyperior: 38-46%
Standard Mamoswine: 65-77% [B]2HKO[/B]
Standard Scyclant: 118-140% [B]OHKO[/B]
Naive Infernape: 118-140% [B]OHKO[/B]
Standard Blissey: 59-70% [B]2HKO[/B]

[B]Earthquake:[/B]
Standard Heatran: 154-182% [B]OHKO[/B]
Steel Killer Magnezone 143-170% [B]OHKO[/B]
Standard CBTar: 63-74% [B]2HKO[/B]
Naive Infernape: 118-140% [B]OHKO[/B]

[B]Superpower:[/B]
Standard Heatran: 92-109% [B]reliable OHKO[/B]
Standard Blissey: 95-112% [B]reliable OHKO[/B]
Standard CBTar: 150-178% [B]OHKO[/B][/COLOR]

Summary: I think the numbers speak for themselves, but briefly: A lot of the metagame focuses on physically offensive pokemon with weaker/neglected special defensive stats. This spread takes full advantage of that tendency, forcing the opponent to try and use special walls to avert damage. With the capability to shrug off non-SE physical attacks and strike back with force, combined with what could potentially be very disruptive abilities makes this the best candidate for the Base Stats Submission.

108HP/56Atk/112Def/84SAt/95SDf/95Spe

Base Stat Total: 555

108HP/95SDf/95Spe

These stats are left unchanged, and for a good reason. As you can see, this gives CAP8 a 'Very Good' score in Special Tankiness, which is good as it allows CAP8 to take hits from both sides of the spectrum. The 95Spe is also unchanged to prove that fast =/= not bulky. I mean look at Gliscor; it has 95Spe and it doesn't have any problems tanking.

84SAt

This is the stat that I didn't want to downgrade, but had no choice because of problems with staying under Excellence. But let me assure you, 84Atk IS usable. Hell, Duggy makes do with only 80Atk, albeit he also has a more powerful STAB move (Earthquake has 100BP), while this guy to make do with Thunder Bolt (95BP) and Dragon Pulse (90BP). Draco Meteor is also an option, as it has 140BP.

112Def

112Def is the absolute MAXIMUM defense I can give it with the amount of HP it has while still allowing Duggy to 2HKO it with EQ, not 75Def that I had in my last spread, 'cause at the time I made that spread, I forgot that Duggies usually come equipped with Life Orbs or Choice Bands. As I said at the time, I want him to be a check, and all Pokes make better checks when they're able to at least 2HKO their enemies or wall them to death (since Dugtrio's a revenge killer, he has to suffice on the former). On the plus side, this does allow CAP8 (with 252HP and 252Def EVs) to survive a DDDos's Earthquake before putting it out of its misery via an item boosted TBolt.

56Atk

I put the rest of the base stats into Atk, making this number 56. This is just to keep the biases in check, make sure this spread doesn't venture into Excellence territory and to keep the base stat total at 555, what I like to call the 'pseudo-limit' that no-one bar Deck Knight has gone above lately, 'cause there's no true limit in which CAP can make a base stat total.

Calculations of Defense

These calculations assume that CAP8 has 252 EVs to HP, 252 EV to Def and a +Def nature and all Pokemon listed have 252 EVs to Atk and a +Atk nature, but with no items to boost attack power, or if a Pokemon in question is using a special attack (which I'll indicate with a *), that CAP8 has 252 EVs to HP, 252 EV to SDf and a +SDf nature and that Pokemon has 252 EVs to SAt and a +SAt nature, but with no items to boost attack power

Rhyperior's Earthquake: 60.48%-71.43%
Rhyperior's Avalanche: 48.57%-57.14%
Salamence's Outrage: 70.00%-82.86%
Salamence's Dragon Claw: 47.14%-55.71%
Salamence's Draco Meteor:* 79.05%-93.33%
Salamence's Dragon Pulse:* 51.43%-60.48%
Salamence's Earthquake: 39.05%-46.19%
Metagross's Earthquake: 39.05%-46.19%
Metagross's Ice Punch: 29.52%-34.76%
Blissey's Ice Beam:* 28.10%-33.33%
Jolteon's HP Ice:* 26.67%-31.43%
Gliscor's Earthquake: 46.19%-54.76%
Gliscor's Ice Fang: 20.00%-23.81%
Dugtrio's Earthquake: 41.43%-49.05%
Magnezone's HP Ice:* 30.00%-35.17%
Kingdra's Outrage: 55.71%-65.71%
Kingdra's Draco Meteor:* 71.90%-84.76%
Kingdra's Dragon Pulse:* 46.19%-54.76%
Kingdra's Ice Beam:* 32.38%-38.57%
Snorlax's Earthquake: 33.81%-40.00%

Calculations of Physical Offense

These calculations assume that CAP8 knows the moves Thunder Punch, Outrage, Brick Break and Aqua Tail. They also assume that CAP8 has 252 EVs to Atk and a +Atk nature and all Pokemon listed have 252 EVs to HP, 252 EV to Def and a +Def nature

Rhyperior

Thunder Punch: 0.00%-0.00%
Outrage: 17.51%-20.97%
Brick Break: 11.29%-13.36%
Aqua Tail: 26.96%-31.80%

Salamence

Thunder Punch: 17.01%-20.05%
Outrage: 53.81%-63.96%
Brick Break: 5.58%-6.60%
Aqua Tail: 6.60%-7.87%

Metagross

Thunder Punch: 13.46%-15.93%
Outrage: 10.44%-12.36%
Brick Break: 13.46%-15.93%
Aqua Tail: 15.93%-18.96%

Blissey

Thunder Punch: 20.17%-23.95%
Outrage: 32.07%-37.96%
Brick Break: 26.89%-31.93%
Aqua Tail: 16.11%-19.05%

Jolteon

Thunder Punch: 0.00%-0.00%
Outrage: 37.72%-44.31%
Brick Break: 15.57%-18.56%
Aqua Tail: 18.86%-22.46%

Gliscor

Thunder Punch: 0.00%-0.00%
Outrage: 22.32%-26.55%
Brick Break: 4.80%-5.65%
Aqua Tail: 22.03%-26.55%

Dugtrio

Thunder Punch: 0.00%-0.00%
Outrage: 50.36%-59.49%
Brick Break: 21.17%-25.18%
Aqua Tail: 50.36%-59.85%

Magnezone

Thunder Punch: 7.56%-9.01%
Outrage: 12.21%-14.24%
Brick Break: 20.35%-24.42%
Aqua Tail: 12.21%-14.53%

Kingdra

Thunder Punch: 16.95%-20.34%
Outrage: 53.11%-63.28%
Brick Break: 11.30%-13.56%
Aqua Tail: 3.39%-3.95%

Snorlax

Thunder Punch: 14.50%-17.18%
Outrage: 22.90%-27.10%
Brick Break: 19.47%-22.90%
Aqua Tail: 11.45%-13.55%

Calculations of Special Offense

These calculations assume that CAP8 knows the moves Thunder Bolt, Draco Meteor, Flamethrower and Energy Ball. They also assume that CAP8 has 252 EVs to SAt and a +SAt nature and all Pokemon listed have 252 EVs to HP, 252 EV to SDf and a +SDf nature

Rhyperior

Thunder Bolt: 0.00%-0.00%
Draco Meteor: 44.24%-52.07%
Flamethrower: 9.91%-11.75%
Energy Ball: 50.46%-60.14%

Salamence

Thunder Bolt: 26.65%-31.47%
Draco Meteor: 78.17%-92.89%
Flamethrower: 8.88%-10.41%
Energy Ball: 3.55%-4.31%

Metagross

Thunder Bolt: 26.65%-31.59%
Draco Meteor: 19.78%-23.08%
Flamethrower: 35.71%-42.31%
Energy Ball: 7.42%-8.79%

Blissey

Thunder Bolt: 10.50%-12.32%
Draco Meteor: 15.27-18.07%
Flamethrower: 7.00%-8.26%
Energy Ball: 5.88%-7.00%

Jolteon

Thunder Bolt: 0.00%-0.00%
Draco Meteor: 41.32%-48.80%
Flamethrower: 18.86%-22.46%
Energy Ball: 15.87%-18.86%

Gliscor

Thunder Bolt: 0.00%-0.00%
Draco Meteor: 45.20%-53.67%
Flamethrower: 20.62%-24.58%
Energy Ball: 17.51%-20.62%

Dugtrio

Thunder Bolt: 0.00%-0.00%
Draco Meteor: 61.31%-72.26%
Flamethrower: 27.74%-32.85%
Energy Ball: 46.72%-55.47%

Magnezone

Thunder Bolt: 13.95%-16.57%
Draco Meteor: 20.93%-24.42%
Flamethrower: 37.79%-44.77%
Energy Ball: 7.85%-9.30%

Kingdra

Thunder Bolt: 26.55%-31.64%
Draco Meteor: 77.97%-92.09%
Flamethrower: 4.24%-5.08%
Energy Ball: 14.97%-17.80%

Snorlax

Thunder Bolt: 16.62%-19.47%
Draco Meteor: 24.05%-28.24%
Flamethrower: 10.88%-12.98%
Energy Ball: 9.16%-10.88%

Final Submission

Slow Tank

110 HP / 76 Atk / 97 Def / 101 SpA / 106 SpD / 65 Spe

Physical Sweepiness: 94 - Average
Physical Tankiness: 150 - Very Good
Special Sweepiness: 118 - Above Average
Special Tankiness: 161 - Extremely Good
Offense/Defense Balance: -17.0 - Moderate Bias to Defense
Physical/Special Balance: -17.1 - Moderate Bias to Special
Overall Rating: 417 - Very Good
Base Stat Rating: 555

Highlights

It has the health to make sure that it can make 101 Substitutes which can be very helpful. It also gives it more bulkiness it needs overall.

It can be use as a decent mixed attacker, able to attack on both sides. It leans more to Special Attack for obvious reasons such as using Thunderbolt/Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor instead of ThunderPunch/Dragon Claw/Outrage.

Able to take more hits on the special side then the physical side, but is capable of being a mixed tank. Being more bulky on Special Defense allows it to come in more easily on common threats such as Heatran and Stratagem, while still maintaing the needed Defense.

A low Speed stat isn't going to hurt. Since it will most likely gain access to moves such as Discharge and Thunderwave, it shouldn't need such a large Speed stat. Not to mention that it may be getting Static as an ability as well. It can still be a decent mixed attacker and can become somewhat surprising with Choice Scarf, so making this have lower Speed can make it more surprising in terms of sweeping under Trick Room, outspeeding common counters and threats, etc.

Calculations

Defensive Tank
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpA

Adamant CB Scizor
Bullet Punch: 14-16% damage.
U-turn: 32-38% damage.
Pursuit: 25-29% damage upon switch.
Superpower: 37-44.% damage.

Adamant CB Mamoswine
Earthquake: 93-110% damage.
Stone Edge: 31-36% damage.
Ice Fang: 60-72% damage.
Ice Shard: 37-44% damage.

Adamant CB Tyranitar
Earthquake: 53-75% damage.
Crunch: 38-45% damage.
Pursuit: 38-45% damage upon switch.
Stone Edge: 47-56 damage.

Adamant LO Lucario after one Swords Dance
Close Combat: 85-101% damage.
Crunch: 38-45% damage.
ExtremeSpeed: 38-45% damage.
Ice Punch: 71-84% damage.

Adamant CB Flygon
Earthquake: 77-91% damage.
Stone Edge: 25-30% damage.
U-turn: 18-21% damage.
Outrage: 93-110% damage.

Adamant LO Gyarados after one Dragon Dance
Waterfall: 17-21% damage.
Earthquake: 60-71% damage.
Ice Fang: 39-46% damage.
Stone Edge: 30-35% damage.

Adamant LO Electivire
ThunderPunch: 5-6% damage.
Earthquake: 40-47% damage.
Ice Punch: 30-35% damage.
Cross Chop: 20-23% damage.

*These calculations are assuming that said Pokemon are running max Attack.

Special Defensive Tank
252 HP / 252 SpD / 6 SpA

Modest CS Heatran
Fire Blast: 26-31% damage.
Hidden Power Grass: 20-31% damage.
Earth Power: 52-62% damage.
Dragon Pulse: 52-62% damage.

Modest CS Porygon-z
Tri Attack: 48-57% damage including Adaptability.
Hidden Power Fighting: 21-25% damage.
Dark Pulse: 24-28% damage.
Ice Beam: 57-67% damage.

Modest CS Salamence
Draco Meteor: 106-128% damage.
Dragon Pulse: 70-83% damage.
Flamethrower: 12-14% damage.
Hydro Pump: 15-18% damage.

Timid LO Starmie
Hydro Pump: 17-20% damage.
Thunderbolt: 4-5% damage.
Ice Beam: 36-43% damage.

Timid LO Gengar
Shadowball: 27-32% damage.
Thunderbolt: 5-6% damage.
Focus Blast: 27-32% damage.
Explosion: 25-30% damage.

Timid CS Jolteon
Thunderbolt: 8-9% damage.
Hidden Power Ice: 33-39% damage.
Shadow Ball: 19-22% damage.

*These calculations assume that said Pokemon are running max Special Attack.

Thank you.

FINAL SPREAD:

100/66/105/101/100/85

PSB= -18.8
ODB= -5.8
OR= 419 [Very Good]
BST= 557

100 HP- Large Subs, not easy to break.
66 Att- So its still useable.
105 Def- Makes it a great physical tank.
101 SpA- Helps it to use its Amazing STABs.
100 SpD- Now, he can wall from both sides.
85 Spe- Just fast enough to make use of its stats.

Final Spread:

80/60/125/115/95/85
Total: 560
Offensive/Defensive Balance: -0.4 No Bias
Physical/Special Balance: -19.4 Moderate Bias to Special
Overall Rating: 417 Very Good

HP 80: It's higher than Gliscor and he is a great physical wall.
Atk 60: Didn't want this thing using physical attacks. Most dragons rely on physical attack.
Def 125: The same as Gliscor(OU), Tangrowth(NU), and Omastar(UU). These are all great defensive walls in there tiers.
SpA 115: Wanted to make it able to do alittle sweeping. Also you don't want to invest to many EVs in to it(has a higher SpA than Vaporeon, Jolteon, and Salamence).
Spe 85: Wanted to make it as fast as Heracross and Kingdra. Not too fast not too slow. Gives it just enough to hit 405 with Choice Scarf.

Here are Some Damage Calcs:
Physical Tank
HP 252, Def 252

Adamant CB Tyranitar:

Earthquake:226 - 268 (62.09% - 73.63%)
Stone Edge:169 - 201 (46.43% - 55.22%)
Crunch:135 - 160 (37.09% - 43.96%)
Aqua Tail:51 - 60 (14.01% - 16.48%)

Adamant CB Metagross:

Eartquake: 228 - 270 (62.64% - 74.18%)
Ice Punch: 170 - 202 (46.70% - 55.49%)
Meteor Mash: 85 - 101 (23.35% - 27.75%)
Thunder Punch: 21 - 25 (5.77% - 6.87%)
Explosion: 283 - 334 (77.75% - 91.76%)

Adamant CB Flygon:

Outrage: 332 - 392 (91.21% - 107.69%)
Earthquake: 276 - 326 (75.82% - 89.56%)
Dragon Claw: 222 - 264 (60.99% - 72.53%)
Stone Edge: 92 - 109 (25.27% - 29.95%)

Adamant CB Mamoswine:

Earthquake: 332 - 392 (91.21% - 107.69%)
Ice Fang: 218 - 258 (59.89% - 70.88%)
Ice Shard: 134 - 158 (36.81% - 43.41%)
Stone Edge: 111 - 131 (30.49% - 35.99%)

Adamant Expert Belt Electivire:

Earthquake: 172 - 204 (47.25% - 56.04%)
Ice Punch: 129 - 153 (35.44% - 42.03%)
Cross Chop: 86 - 102 (23.63% - 28.02%)
Thunder Punch: 24 - 28 (6.59% - 7.69%)

Modest Specs Empoleon:

Ice Beam: 318 - 376 (87.36% - 103.30%)
Hydro Pump: 150 - 177 (41.21% - 48.63%)
HP Electric: 59 - 69 (16.21% - 18.96%)
Surf: 119 - 141 (32.69% - 38.74%)

Timid Specs Jolteon:

Hp Ice: 214 - 252 (58.79% - 69.23%)
Shadow Ball: 122 - 144 (33.52% - 39.56%)
Thunderbolt: 54 - 63 (14.84% - 17.31%)

Modest Scarf Heatran:

Earth Power: 226 - 266 (62.09% - 73.08%)
Dragon Pulse: 226 - 266 (62.09% - 73.08%)
HP Ice:176 - 208 (48.35% - 57.14%)
Flamethrower: 89 - 105 (24.45% - 28.85%)

Special Sweeper:
Choice Specs Modest SpA 252, Spe 252

Draco Meteor

Diverse Bliss: 89 - 105 (24.45% - 28.85%)
Defensive RestTalk Kingdra: OHKO
Bulky Salamence: OHKO
RestTalk Gyarados: 345 - 406 (87.56% - 103.05%)
TyraniBoah: 345 - 406 (85.40% - 100.50%)
Support Dragonite: OHKO
Wish Support Jirachi: 159 - 188 (39.65% - 46.88%)
Defensive Celebi: 345 - 406 (85.40% - 100.50%)

Just a few Calcs (There are no SpD EVs on any of the sets).

81 HP/70 Atk/100 Def/90 Satk/110 SpD/110 Spe

0.0 No Bias
-18.1 Moderate Bias to Special

HP
Min HP: 303
Max HP: 366

Basically, I didn't like the high HP stats that everybody was throwing out. I wanted to settle with something decent enough where it could at least hit the 300 mark without any HP investments. 81 seems like a fine enough number for this. It's not big at all, nor is it too big.

Provided you run 248 HP EVs, you tie with the base 80 HP pokemon. You get 91 HP subs, which can be used to deal with Iron Heads, Fire Punch, and U-turn from Jirachi. This can also deal with a Zapdos Heat Wave, Thunderbolt, and HP Grass. For Celebi, you can take on Grass Knot, as well as outspeeding it in order to hide behind a Sub in order to block Thunder Wave or Leech Seed. Nifty, no?

There's not really much to say for HP, only that I think that 81 is a fine enough number and that it helps balance out my pokemon to get a perfect 0.0 No Bias Rating.

Defense

Calculations for a CB U-turn from Scizor factoring in Max HP and no Defense investment:

591 Atk vs 236 Def & 366 HP (70 Base Power): 94 - 111 (25.68% - 30.33%)Calculations for a Max Atk LO Adamant Gyarados Waterfall factoring in Max HP and no Defense investment:

383 Atk vs 236 Def & 366 HP (80 Base Power): 91 - 108 (24.86% - 29.51%)

Calculations for a Max Atk LO Pyroak Flare Blitz factoring in Max HP and no Defense investment:

262 Atk vs 236 Def & 366 HP (120 Base Power): 93 - 109 (25.41% - 29.78%)

Calculations for a Max Atk Adamant Arghonaut Waterfall factoring in Max HP and no Defense investment:

350 Atk vs 236 Def & 366 HP (80 Base Power): 63 - 75 (17.21% - 20.49%)

Calculations for a Max Atk Adamant Metagross Meteor Mash factoring in Max HP and no Defense investment:

405 Atk vs 236 Def & 366 HP (100 Base Power): 93 - 109 (25.41% - 29.78%)

I really tried to cut down on the calcs, as some of the calcs I've seen for this pokemon were kinda pointless (no offense guys ^_^) as some of those situations would never happen. However, I tried to cut down on my calcs and only show the most important scenarios.


Attack

I honestly don't know what you want to do with an attack stat when we already decided on a Special stat spread. I'll just post some stuff here in order to keep you guys satisfied and whatnot.

If you are running attack, I assume you are running a gimmick. Because of this, I am factoring Adamant Max Attack for these calcs, because that seems to be the only scenario (other than mixed) where you would use Physical on this thing. I'll also throw in some LO calcs in there for shits and giggles.

Without further ado, here are the calcs!


Calculations for a Max Atk Adamant CAP8 Outrage on no Def 6 HP Mence:

262 Atk vs 176 Def & 332 HP (120 Base Power): 386 - 456 (116.27% - 137.35%)

Calculations for a Max Atk Adamant CAP8 Thunder Fang on Recover Tank Arghonaut:

262 Atk vs 252 Def & 414 HP (75 Base Power): 168 - 200 (40.58% - 48.31%)

LO Calcs:

262 Atk vs 252 Def & 414 HP (75 Base Power): 218 - 260 (52.66% - 62.80%)

Calculations for a Max Atk Adamant CAP 8 EQ on 176 HP Tyranitar:

262 Atk vs 256 Def & 385 HP (100 Base Power): 146 - 174 (37.92% - 45.19%)

LO Calcs:

262 Atk vs 256 Def & 385 HP (100 Base Power): 192 - 226 (49.87% - 58.70%)

Some things that were previously not 2HKOable without an attack boost can be 2HKO'd by packing Life Orb.

Sp. Attack

Special Attack is the main offense of CAP 8 a 90 Base Sp. Atk was deemed a bit low in comparison for it's speed. However, I would like to note that Starmie is a prime example of how a great movepool can make up for such a stat. 100 Base Satk isn't considered high for Starmie, yet it makes great use of it.

With that being said, I am predicting Draco Meteor to reach this CAP8's movepool. Like Hydro Pump is to Starmie, Draco Meteor is to CAP8.

If any of you have ever played me on CaP, you will know that I run a special Starmie lead that can actually OHKO Fidgit with a Psychic. Not only that, it can spin away entry hazards as well. It wrecks a lot of havoc, and it's surprising how hard it can actually hit.

From these calcs, I'll assume this thing runs 252 HP/180 Speed/76 Satk. 180 allows it to outrun things that hit 300 trying to stay one point ahead of Adamant Mence and stuff like that. My 252 HP was from the Defense calcs earlier, so I put the rest in Satk.

You may think that this thing hits a little soft, but in reality it's just meant to 2HKO things. 2HKOing pretty much makes the difference between 57% or 99% that much smaller.

I need not say this, but it's a given that this thing will OHKO Salamence with a Draco Meteor.

Calculations for Modest 76 Satk CAP8 Thunderbolt on Recovery Tank Arghonaut:

258 Atk vs 245 Def & 414 HP (95 Base Power): 218 - 258 (52.66% - 62.32%)

Calculations for Modest 76 Satk CAP8 Draco Meteor on Max HP Latias:

258 Atk vs 296 Def & 364 HP (140 Base Power): 264 - 312 (72.53% - 85.71%)

Calculations for Modest 76 Satk CAP8 Draco Meteor on Mix Swampert:

258 Atk vs 216 Def & 401 HP (140 Base Power): 180 - 213 (44.89% - 53.12%)

Calculations for Modest 76 Satk CAP 8 Draco Meteor on a 252 HP/180 Sdef Rotom-A:

Special Defense

This is CAP8's highest Defense. Here are some calcs. This considers Max HP and no Sdef involved.


Calculations for Wish Support Vappy's Ice Beam on CAP 8:

256 Atk vs 256 Def & 366 HP (95 Base Power): 136 - 162 (37.16% - 44.26%)

Calculations for Timid Strata Earth Poweron CAP 8:

339 Atk vs 256 Def & 366 HP (90 Base Power): 172 - 204 (46.99% - 55.74%)

Calculations for Max Satk LO Mixape Fire Blast on CAP 8:

303 Atk vs 256 Def & 366 HP (120 Base Power): 99 - 117 (27.05% - 31.97%)

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This is the first version of my spread:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1887000&postcount=13

And here is the current one, with the justification and reasoning of the spread shown:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1888314&postcount=47


~Plus ^_^

Final Submission

110 HP / 75 Atk / 92 Def / 97 SpA / 101 SpD / 80 Spe / 555 total

Physical Sweepiness: 100 (Average)
Physical Tankiness: 143 (Good)
Special Sweepiness: 126 (Moderately Good)
Special Tankiness: 155 (Very Good)

O/D Balance: -11.2 (Moderate bias to Defense)
P/S Balance: -16.9 (Moderate bias to Special)

Overall Rating: 406 (Very Good)

110/92/101 Defenses
This gives CaP8 great special bulk, which is good, as its fire, grass, electric, and water resists lend themselves to switching in on special attacks. The special defense is also good enough to shrug off unSTAB Ice Beams from bulky waters.

Its physical bulk is less, but it still needed a good amount to utilize its useful Steel resist. With 80 speed, it can outspeed Scizor and takes little damage from Bullet Punch. Physical Jirachi also get stopped cold. It can also take an unSTAB EQ if needed, though you'll want to avoid that.

75/97/80 Offenses
97 base special attack is nothing to scoff at, especially with moves like Thunderbolt and Draco Meteor coming off it. 75 base attack isn't bad, and can utilize high BP moves like Outrage, Volt Tackle, and Focus Punch, but it's not something to focus on unless you're running an offensive set.

80 speed lets it outspeed Arghonaut with no investment, as well as tying with Mamoswine and Dragonite. With 24 EVs, you outspeed 0 speed Suicune, should you want to do that (this will also outspeed Milotic). Starmie will pretty much always have the speed advantage on you, but other than it, you can easily outspeed just about any bulky water.

And now, defensive calculations

[B]Modest Specs Magnezone[/B]

[U]Thunderbolt[/U]
252/0: 15.0-17.7%
Calm: 12.8-15.1%
Max: 10.9-12.8%

[U]HP Ice[/U]
252/0: 59.3-69.8%
Calm: 50.6-59.5%
Max: 42.9-50.5%

OK, so as long as you don't switch in on HP Ice, you should be fine.
Even if you do, non-Specs versions will still be threatened by EQ.

[B]Timid Specs Jolteon[/B]
[U]Thunderbolt[/U]
252/0: 12.2-14.4%
Calm: 10.4-12.2%
Max: 8.8-10.4%

[U]HP Ice[/U]
252/0: 48.2-56.6%
Calm: 41.0-48.3%
Max: 34.8-41.0%

Again, stay away from HP Ice and you'll be fine.

[B]Heatran[/B]
[U]252 spA, Fire Blast[/U]
252/0: 23.2-27.2%
Calm: 19.7-23.2%
Max: 16.7-19.7%

[U]252 spA, Earth Power/Dragon Pulse[/U]
252/0: 46.5-54.7%
Calm: 39.7-46.7%
Max: 33.7-39.6%

[U]Specs, +SpA, Fire Blast[/U]
252/0: 37.9-44.6%
Calm: 32.3-38.0%
Max: 27.4-32.2%

[U]Specs, +Spa, Earth Power/Dragon Pulse[/U]
252/0: 76.1-89.5%
Calm: 64.8-76.2%
Max: 54.9-64.6%

[U]0 EV, Explosion[/U]
252/0: 83.1-97.8%
Calm: 68.5-80.6%
Max: 58.9-69.3%

So, don't come in on EP unless you're running sdef EVs,
and don't come in on Specs EP at all.

[B]Zapdos[/B]

[U]0 spA, HP Ice[/U]
252/0: 29.1-34.3%
Calm: 24.9-29.3%
Max: 21.2-24.9%

[U]252 spA, LO, HP Ice[/U]
252/0: 46.0-54.1%
Calm: 39.2-46.2%
Max: 33.4-39.2%

This is the best Zapdos can throw at you.  Everything else does laughable
damage.  Defensive Zapdos that lack HP Ice can't even do 10% to this guy.

[B]Rotom[/B]

[U]Specs, 252+ spA, Shadow Ball[/U]
252/0: 43.7-51.5%
Calm: 37.3-43.8%
Max: 31.6-37.2%

[U]252 spA, Shadow Ball[/U]
252/0: 26.8-31.6%
Calm: 22.9-26.9%
Max: 19.5-22.9%

I don't know what Rotom usually runs, but this shows it's really only a threat
if it invests heavily in sp. attack.  Its status conditions are far more worrisome.

[B]Jirachi[/B]
[U]252 atk Iron Head[/U]
252/0: 14.0-16.5%
Calm: 11.6-13.7%
Max: 10.0-11.8%

[U]252 spA +1 Psychic[/U]
252/0: 43.4-51.1%
Calm: 37.0-43.5%
Max: 31.4-36.9%

Scarf Jirachi shouldn't pose much of a threat.  With leftovers recovery,
it's doing ~8% per turn, meaning it needs to flinch hax you about 10 times.

[B]Scizor[/B]
[U]+2 Adamant LO Superpower/X-scissor[/U]
252/0: 94.6%-111.3%
Calm: 78.1%-91.8%
Max: 78.9%-67.1%

[U]+2 LO Adamant Bullet Punch[/U]
252/0: 35.7-42.0%
Calm: 29.5-34.7%
Max: 25.4-29.8%

[U]CB Adamant Bullet Punch[/U]
252/0: 20.7-24.3
Calm: 17.1-20.1
Max: 14.7-17.3

[U]CB Adamant U-Turn[/U]
252/0: 48.1%-56.6%
Calm: 39.7%-46.8%
Max: 34.2%-40.2%

Well, you can take his steel attacks, but watch out if it SDs up.

[B]Adamant LOGyarados[/B]
[U]+1 Waterfall[/U]
252/0: 34.7-40.8%
Calm: 28.6-33.7%
Max: 24.6-29.0%

[U]Ice Fang[/U]
252/0: 50.6-59.5%
Calm: 36.1-42.5%
Max: 41.9-49.3%

[U]Earthquake[/U]
252/0: 77.3-90.9%
Calm: 63.8-75.1%
Max: 55.0-64.7%

It certainly fears EQ, but can handle just about anything else Gyarados has.

[B]Metagross[/B]
[U]Adamant EQ[/U]
252/0: 62.8-73.9%
Calm: 51.9-61.0%
Max: 44.7-52.5%

[U]Adamant CB Meteor Mash[/U]
252/0: 35.1-41.3%
Calm: 29.0%-34.1%
Max: 25.0%-29.4%

As always, stay away from EQ.
Otherwise, it takes Metagross' steel attacks like a champ.

[B]Stratagem[/B]
[U]Tech LO Ancientpower[/U]
252/0: 42.9-50.4%
Calm: 36.6-43.0%
Max: 31.0-36.5%

[U]LO Earth Power[/U]
252/0: 57.2-67.3%
Calm: 48.8-57.4%
Max: 41.4-48.7%

The LO sets are something to be wary of, especially the Levitate
sets with EP.  But you can take a hit or 2 if need be.

[B]Arghonaut[/B]
[U]36 atk Adamant Waterfall[/U]
252/0: 13.7-16.1%
Calm: 11.3-13.3%
Max: 9.8-11.5%

[U]same, Ice Punch[/U]
252/0: 34.2-40.3%
Calm: 28.3-33.3%
Max: 24.4-28.7%

[U]same, Stone Edge[/U]
252/0: 22.7-26.7%
Calm: 18.8-22.1%
Max: 16.2-19.0%

Arghonaut is not going to be liking CaP 8.  You should be 
fairly safe on switch-in.

[B]Pyroak[/B]
[U]LO special 120 BP STAB[/U]
252/0: 26.6-31.3%
Calm: 22.7-26.7%
Max: 19.3-22.7%

[U]LO physical 120 BP STAB[/U]
252/0: 23.9-28.1%
Calm: 19.7-23.2%
Max: 17.0-20.0%

[U]LO HP Ice/Ground[/U]
252/0: 41.9-49.3%
Calm: 35.7-42.0%
Max: 30.4-35.8%

You can take his STABs easily, but watch out for those SE HPs.

[B]Kitsunoh[/B]
[U]CB Meteor Mash[/U]
252/0: 26.5-31.2%
Calm: 21.9-25.8%
Max: 18.9-22.2%

[U]CB Shadowstrike[/U]
252/0: 42.6-50.1%
Calm: 35.2-41.4%
Max: 30.3-35.6%

[U]CB Earthquake[/U]
252/0: 70.8-83.3%
Calm: 58.4-68.8%
Max: 50.3-59.2%

This is another thing you should probably only switch in
using choiced resists.  That EQ will hit hard, and Shadowstrike's
def drop does not help matters.

That's about the extent of things you should be switching in on. It can pretty much take any unboosted SE attacks that aren't STAB, and non-SE attacks are generally 3HKOs when unboosted.

FINAL SUBMISSION

90 HP/ 71 ATK/ 102 DEF/ 100 SpA/ 102 SpD/ 90 SPE

• Physical Sweepiness - Rank 0: Average
  ​
• Physical Tankiness - Rank 3: Good​
• Special Sweepiness - Rank 3: Good
  ​
• Special Tankiness - Rank 3: Good
  ​
• Offense/Defense Balance - -0.4: No Bias
  ​
• Physical/Special Balance - -17.5: Moderate Bias to Special
  ​
• Overall Rating -388 Very Good​
• 555 BST

Will add more later as it is late here.

Final Submission:
100 HP/70 Atk/110 Def/90 SAtk/100 SDef/85 Spe

Damage Calcs
Max Atk. Tyranitar's Earthquake vs. Max/Max CAP8: 252-296 (62%-73%)
SpecsTran's Earth Power vs. Max/Max CAP8: 174-204 (43%-50%)
CBMamo's Earthquake vs. Max/Max CAP8: 271-319 (67%-78%)
Max Atk. Deoxys-A's Extremespeed vs. Max/Max CAP8: 89-105 (22%-26%)
Max SP. Atk CAP8's Draco Meteor vs. Min/Min Salamence: 328-386 (109%-129%)
Max Atk +2 Scizor's Superpower vs. Max/Max CAP8: 214-252 (52%-62%)
Max Atk +2 Rhyperior's EQ vs. Max/Max CAP8: 377-444 (93%-110%)

110 HP/ 71 Atk/ 103 Def/ 100 SpA/ 103 SpD/ 63 Spe

Physical Sweepiness: 89, -1, Below Average
Physical Tankiness: 157, +4, Very Good
Special Sweepiness: 117, +1, Above Average
Special Tankiness: 157, +4, Above Average
ODB: -16.2, Moderate Bias to Defense
PSB: -15.4, Moderate Bias to Special
Overall Rating: 418, Very Good
BST: 550, in between Togekiss and Arcanine

Bulkier than Swampert, Celebi, Jirachi, Rotom formes, etc. Can outperform some dedicated walls by taking hits from both sides of the spectrum.

HP: 361-424. 172 EVs give it the 101 subs everyone wants. Gives it the bulk Rotoms and Dusknoir wish they had.

Atk: 160-264. Not winning any awards, but still able to be EVd well and be a surprise with the Volt Tackle that seems inevitable.

Def/SpD: 218-335. Excellent and MIXED to throw out predictability. That the opponent will have no idea if it's physically or specially dedicated, or mixed, gives this spread an instant defensive advantage.

SpA: 212-328. To pose an offensive threat when it needs to. Not epic, but still usable, and coupled with lower speed b/c this poke is mainly defensive.

Spe: 146-246. To just outrun Swampert, non-Agility Empoleon, neutral no speed Tyranitar, and most ground-types that will come in to absorb T-Bolts. I really just didn't want to encourage sweeping with this guy. That and it needs the defense stats more.

Damage Calcs:

Defense-minded Spread:
Bold; 172HP/252Def/84SpD; 404/160/335/236/259/162

Dugtrio (CB, Adamant, 252 Attack):
Earthquake: 67%-80%

Electivire (Expert Belt, Adamant, 252 Atk):
Earthquake: 48%-57%
Ice Punch: 36%-43%

Empoleon (+1 SpA, Torrent Activated, Modest, 252 SpA):
Surf: 34%-40%
Ice Beam: 68%-83%

Flygon (CB, Adamant, 252 Atk)
Outrage: 95%-111%
Earthquake: 78%-92%
U-Turn: 18%-21%

Gyarados (+1 Atk, Life Orb, Adamant, 252 Atk)
Waterfall: 23%-28%
Earthquake: 78%-93%
Ice Fang: 51%-60%

Infernape (Life Orb, Naive, 252 Atk/64SpA):
Close Combat: 38%-45%
Earthquake: 42%-50%
HP Ice: 33%-39%
Fire Blast: 14%-16%

Kingdra (Adamant, 252 Atk):
Outrage: 60%-71%
Waterfall: 10%-11%

Lucario (+2 Atk, Adamant, 252 Atk):
Extremespeed: 29%-35%
Close Combat: 66%-78%
Ice Punch: 55%-65%

Scizor (CB, Technician, Adamant, 252 Atk):
Bullet Punch: 14%-16%
U-Turn: 32%-38%
Pursuit: 18%-22%
Superpower: 37%-44%

Special Defense-minded Spread:
Calm; 172 HP/ 84 Def/ 252 SpD; 404/160/259/236/335/162

Too tired to do tons of these, so here're some highlights:
2 CM Timid 108 SpA Latias Dragon Pulse: 81%-96%
LO Modest 252 SpA Latias Draco Meteor: 101% min (w/out LO: 78%-92%)
Modest 252 SpA Heatran Earth Power: 38%-45%
Modest 252 SpA Magnezone HP Ice: 29%-35%
CSpecs Modest 252 SpA Jolteon HP Ice: 39%-46%
+1 SpA Modest 252 SpA Empoleon Ice Beam: 53%-63%
Modest 252 SpA Porygon-Z Ice Beam: 41%-49%
" " w/ 1 Nasty Plot: 82%-97%

Same Spread, Offense (just a little bit, sorry):

T-Bolt vs. BulkyGyara: 104% min (Remeber Gyara can't OHKO with EQ or Ice Fang even after a DD)
T-Bolt vs. CMCune: 45%-53% (30%-36% w/ 1 CM)
T-Bolt vs. CB Scizor: 44%-52%
T-Bolt vs. Naive MixApe: 51%-60%
T-Bolt vs. SD Lucario: 48%-56%

Draco Meteor vs. LO Salamence: 109% min
Dragon Pulse vs. MixPert: 26%-31%
Dragon Pulse vs. Hippowdon: 27%-32%
HP Grass vs. Hippowdon: 28%-33%

This will probably be my final submission. Decided to sacrifice some speed and sp.def to pump up Sp.Atk and HP.

105 / 80 / 105 / 110 / 75 / 80 = 555

Physical Sweepiness: 106 (Average)
Phyiscal Tankiness: 156 (Very Good)
Special Sweepiness: 142 (Good)
Special Tankiness: 118 (Above Average)
Offense/Defense Balance: -5.1 (Slight Bias to Defense)
Physical/Special Balance: -0.4 (No Bias)
Overall Rating: 393 (Very Good)


Defensive Calculations: Assuming 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Sp.Def Bold (414 / 331 / 195)
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Metagross (252 ATK, Adamant, Choice Band)
Meteor Mash: 23.91% - 28.26%
Earthquake: 63.77% - 75.36%
Bullet Punch: 9.42% - 11.35%
ThunderPunch: 5.80% - 7.00%
Ice Punch: 47.83% - 56.52%
Explosion: 158.45% - 186.47%

Scizor (252 Atk, Adamant, Choice Band)
Bullet Punch: 13.77% - 16.43%
Superpower: 36.96% - 43.72%
U-Turn: 32.61% - 38.41%
Pursuit: 18.60% - 21.98%

Infernape (Hasty, 64 Atk, 252 Sp.Atk, Life Orb)
Close Combat: 32.13% - 37.92%
HP Ice: 49.76% - 58.94%
Grass Knot(80): 14.25% - 16.67%
FlameThrower: 25.36% - 29.71%

Zapdos (Physically Defensive)
Hp Ice: 35.75% - 42.51%
Thunderbolt: 18.12% - 21.50%
Heat Wave: 12.80% - 14.98%

Zapdos (Offensive, Life Orb)
HP Ice: 57.00% - 67.15%
Thunderbolt: 28.50% - 33.82%
Heat Wave: 20.05% - 23.67%

Tyranitar (Choice Band, Adamant, 252 Atk)
Stone Edge: 56.76% - 66.91%
Earthquake: 63.29% - 74.88%
Crunch: 37.92% - 44.93%
Aqua Tail: 14.25% - 16.67%
Pursuit: 12.80% - 15.22%

Heatran (Choice Scarf)
Fire Blast: 28.50% - 33.82%
Earth Power: 57.49% - 68.12%
Dragon Pulse: 57.49% - 68.12%
HP Electric: 5.56% - 6.52%
Explosion: 56.52% - 66.67%

Starmie (Timid, Life Orb)
Ice Beam: 65.70% - 77.78%
Hydro Pump: 30.92% - 36.47%
Thunderbolt: 8.21% - 9.66%

Latias (148 HP, 108 Sp.Atk, 252 Speed)
Dragon Pulse: 68.12% - 80.19% (101.93% - 120.29%)
HP Fire: 8.70% - 10.39% (13.04% - 15.46%)
Grass Knot (80): 10.14% - 11.84% (14.98% - 17.87%)
Psychic: 34.06% - 40.10% (50.97% - 60.14%)

Offensive Calculations: 220 sp.atk, 36 atk, 252 speed Naive with Life Orb (311/205/284)

Dragon Pulse against:
Scizor: 34.26% - 40.48%
Zapdos: 47.14% - 55.73%
Latias: 78.70% - 92.90%
Infernape: 75.09% - 89.08%
Metagross: 24.73% - 29.40%
Heatran: 27.16% - 32.10%
Starmie: 72.52% - 85.88%

Thunderbolt against:
Scizor: 73.01% - 86.16%
Zapdos: 49.48% - 58.59%
Latias: 20.41% - 24.26%
Infernape: 79.18% - 93.52%
Metagross: 52.20% - 61.81%
Heatran: 57.41% - 67.59%
Starmie: 153.44% - 180.92%

Draco Meteor against:
Scizor: 53.63% - 63.32%
Zapdos: 73.44% - 86.72%
Latias: 121.30% - 143.79%
Infernape: 116.72% - 137.54%
Metagross: 38.74% - 45.60%
Heatran: 41.98% - 49.69%
Starmie: 112.60% - 132.82%

Volt Tackle against:
Scizor: 50.17% - 59.52%
Zapdos: 31.51% - 37.50%
Latias: 23.67% - 27.81%
Infernape: 73.72% - 87.03%
Metagross: 32.14% - 37.91%
Heatran: 42.90% - 50.93%
Starmie: 128.24% - 151.15%
Tyrantiar: 22.28% - 26.24%

Earthquake against:
Scizor: 28.03% - 33.22%
Infernape: 81.23% - 96.25%
Metagross: 36.26% - 42.86%
Heatran: 96.30% - 113.58%
Starmie: 35.50% - 41.98%
Tyrantiar: 37.13% - 44.06%

Final Submission
85 HP / 95 Atk / 90 Def / 100 SpA / 105 SpD / 85 Spe
BST: 560
ODB: -1.3
PSB: -9.8
BSR: 378 (Very Good)

Final Submission:

90/90/102/85/120/70
BST: 557
PSweep: 111, Rank 1: Above Average
PTank: 139, Rank 3; Good
PSweep: 106, Rank 0: Average
PTank: 160, Rank 5: Extremely Good
ODB: -19.9, Moderate Bias to Defense
PSB: -5.0, Slight Bias to Special.
BSR: 382 (Very Good)

Well, that's that.

i originally wasn't planning on submitting one, but here goes:

87/80/105/98/100/90
physical sweepiness: 113 rank 1(above average)
physical tankiness: 140 rank 3(good)
special sweepiness: 137 rank 3(good)
special tankiness: 134 rank 3(good)
ODB: -1 (no bias)
PSB: -8.2 (slight bias to special)
BSR: 390, very good
BST 560

IMO making this poke a dragon changed the rules of its stat distribution more than many think it has. we are dealing with a type that has its fully evolved, non-legendaries an average of 558 BST (without altaria it would be 572) and a minimum stat distribution of 75/70/80/70/80/80. with this knowledge, i realized that there was no true "dumping stat" to use to try and over-power this poke, but it also made me realize that there were others that payed no attention to the past precedent on the stats of dragon types (i think i saw an attack of 35...)
.....
on to the actual stats.
87/105/100 defensive stats allows for it to take hits rather well at both ends of the spectrum, with slightly higher def to deal with EQ since it is the most popular move in the game at the moment (252hp/252def with a + nature takes a max of 84.66% from 252attack + nature CB dugtrio). i also saw no reason in giving this poke 100+ hp subs, considering that the only reason for that would be seismic toss, and there is only one major user of that move.

80/98/90 offensive stats allows for this poke to hit somewhat from both sides of the spectrum. the 80 attack might seem low, but with LO a + nature and a single DD under its belt, it has an attack of 555. also, at 90 speed it would be faster than many common threats (ttar, pre-agility metagross, machamp, breloom, skarmory, scizor, gyarados, and swampert). the speed would also make it one of the faster DD users (should it gain that, since only 4 of the 6 fully evolved, non-legendary dragons have it).

may edit this later today with damage calcs, if this is still open.

Final Submission

HP: 107
Att: 80
Def: 104
Sp.att: 87
Sp.Def: 102
Speed: 75

BST: 555
ODB: -18.0
PSB: -3.1
OR: 418 Very Good

Reasoning:
107 HP gives 404 hp and 101 subs with 196 EVs, allowing slight investment in other stats.

80 attack becomes decent if we give CAP 8 Dragon Dance. Also keeps him from being overpowered.

104/102 defences. With the exception of Draco Meteor, a majority of the other feared attacks are physical, as are a majority of CAP 8's threats. Tailoring the defences slightly towards defence increases the chance of surviving the threatening physical attacks. Further this spread is sturdier than the likes of Celebi, Jirachi etc.

87 sp.att. It makes sense to make sp.att higher than attack seing as CAP 8's strongest attacks are in the Special side of the spectrum. He can deal out reasonable damage with this stat.

75 speed allows CAP 8 to comfortably outspeed most walls without any investments and with some investment allows him to outspeed Tyranitar and Scizor and a few others. Will also outpace things a lot quicker than Tyranitar would with Dragon Dance.

Calcs will come up later if I have the time.

final submission

90/70/98/80/115/112

Physical Sweepiness: 110 Above Average
Physical Tankiness: 131 Good
Special Sweepiness: 125 Moderately Good
Special Tankiness: 154 Very Good
Offense/Defense Balance: -11.4 Moderate Bias to Defense
Physical/Special Balance: -14.7 Moderate Bias to Special
Overall Rating: 382 Very Good
BST: 565

Defenses 90/98/115: Focuses on special defense, but the physical defense is good enough for it to come in on resistances.

Attacking Stats 70/80: Low if you're trying to take out walls, but with it's speed and defenses it can come out on top against many sweepers with high powered attacks like Draco Meteor and Volt Tackle.

Speed 112: The main point of interest for this spread. Outspeeds Latias, Salamence, Flygon, and Infernape at max, and can outspeed Lucario, Heatran, and Gyarados with 112 EV's, leaving room for other EV's. Finally, it can outspeed Breloom and Metagross with 12 EV's, minimum speed Rotom, Suicune, and Celebi (not really important), and maximum speed Tyranitar and Scizor with no EV's.

Final Submission

132/71/92/93/67/100
Base Stat Total = 555

P. Sweeping: 107 Rank 0 Average
P. Tanking: 160 Rank 5 Extremely Good
S. Sweeping: 139 Rank 3 Good
S. Tanking: 124 Rank 2 Moderately Good

Offense/Defense Balance: -8.0 Slight Basis to Defense
Physical/Special Balance: -0.1 No Bias

Base Stat Rating: 419 Very Good


Reasoning:
HP/132 - Gives good bulkiness and allows 101 HP subs without any HP investment. Plus I found this to be an effective HP when combined with my defensive values.

P.Atk/71 - Seems most people wanted a special attacker, but I wasn't completely willing to give up on physical attack. With Dragon's Dance or Swords dance combined with its defensive capabilities and speed it could at least suffice to be 'usable'.

P.Def/92 - It resists most of the common special attacks; thus the defensive stat that would benefit most from extra padding would be regular old defense.

S.Atk/93 - It gives it some punch without giving itself to being a pure sweeper. Combined with strong stabs this thing can hit nice and hard.

S.Def/67 - Even without great special defense this thing could take most special hits with ease. This just makes it so that it could take even boosted hits. If it gets Calm Mind it could really wall on both ends.

Spe/100 - I like my speed. I thought of edging it upwards a bit, but I just didn't like the feel after doing so. 100 is a good solid speed tier to belong to.


May edit in some calcs later if I get around to it.

 

[Comatose811]

Deck Knight/tennisace

 

[Plus]

Plus

If not I wouldn't have submitted, lol

 

[Captain]

Plus

 

[tennisace]

Deck Knight/tennisace

I don't have much to say, except a little more justification. I personally think our spread is the most well-rounded, yet doesn't try to do too much. It has a specific goal, and I believe that it accomplishes that goal beautifully. So if you feel that our spread is indeed all we say it is, vote for us. ^_^

 

[reyscarface]

Going all the way with Plus.

Seems like the best spread and most rounded one for this CAP.

 

[Unownasofyet]

Deck Knight/tennisace

108/60/118/112/70/80 BST: 548 It makes the most sense.

 

[Stellar]

Deck/tennisace

 

[macle]

Deck/tennisace

 

[O_HAI!]

Deck/Tennisace for me as well. Gotta agree that it's the most well-rounded IMHO.

Edit: Actually, I got kinda confused. Sorry. I'm voting for Plus, I mixed them up somehow.

 

[Elegy]

Plus

 

[Elevator Music]

Plus

Plus's can be given pretty fancy EVs (^_____^)

Seriously though it fits with my general idea of the pokemon. tennis's/deck knights is also cool though and would be my second choice.


(I wish I was around to make a spread ;_;)

 

[XIII-Low-Phone]

Deck Knight/tennisace

 

[Umbreon Dan]

I'm voting DK/tennisace.

 

[Yarnus vs Hartwig]

Plus

 

[Fuzznip]

Fuzznip.

 

[Bass]

Deck Knight/tennisace

I am personally looking for a decent amount of Special Attack in these spreads, and that was something that I felt Plus's spread (which seems to be one of the more popular ones) didn't have enough of, in my opinion.

 

[Gooey Kablooie]

Decknight/Tennisace

I was torn between Gothic Togekiss and Decknight/tennisace. Gothic Togekiss providing the physical attack power I wanted and Decknight/Tenissace providing ever so slightly more HP and Special Attack and the Physical Defense I wanted, I ended up choosing Decknight/Tennisace, but damn was it ever close. I had even written down Gothic Togekiss in bold while I was analyzing a spread I made in Excel with all the submissions I liked and I was swayed at the very last moment.

 

[Limbo]

Plus

 

[TekkenStorm]

Deck Knight/tennisace

 

[VKCA]

Plus

 

[Admiral_Stalfos19]

Admiral_Stalfos19

 

[Tsukikage]

Admiral_Stalfos19

 

[Deck Knight]

Deck Knight/tennnisace

We rock, We rule.

 

[Xdogking]

Gothic Togekiss