Monotype Chandelure (Ghost) [QC: 2/2] {GP: 1/1}

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[SET]
name: SubCM (Ghost)
move 1: Flamethrower / Fire Blast
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Calm Mind
move 4: Substitute
item: Heavy-Duty Boots / Leftovers
ability: Infiltrator
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Chandelure is a powerful special attacker that naturally outspeeds Bisharp and becomes a powerful wallbreaker with Calm Mind and Substitute. Flamethrower provides crucial coverage that helps with Ice-, Steel-, and Grass-type Pokemon such as Alolan Ninetales, Lucario, and Ferrothorn. Calm Mind boosts Chandelure's Special Attack even more and pairs well with Substitute. Alternatively, Psychic over Shadow Ball is a niche option that has a small chance of KOing Toxapex after Stealth Rock. Since Chandelure is a Fire-type and Ghost does not have reliable entry hazard removers, Heavy-Duty Boots is a critical option so it will not take damage from Stealth Rock. Leftovers is also an option to gain recovery after setting up Substitute. Its Infiltrator ability is useful for ignoring screens and Substitute. Chandelure plays a crucial role by threatening Sucker Punch users, like Shiftry and Bisharp, with Substitute. Investing full Speed along with a Timid nature allows Chandelure to outspeed Bisharp and Diggersby and Speed tie with Mamoswine, while maximizing its Special Attack betters its wallbreaking capabilities.

Galarian Corsola is a wall that can set up Stealth Rock, which helps the entire team by dealing chip damage and breaking Focus Sash along with crippling Pokemon, notably Excadrill, Galarian Darmanitan, and Mamoswine, with Will-O-Wisp and Strength Sap. Dragapult and Gengar are fast sweepers that provide a lot of coverage for various matchups Chandelure needs support in such as Water, Dragon, and Flying. Choice Scarf Dragapult is useful for outspeeding slower Choice Scarf Pokemon like Hydreigon and Gengar. Gengar is another good teammate that can use Trick to cripple Pokemon such as Snorlax and Toxapex. Mimikyu is a staple on Ghost that can use Play Rough and Swords Dance, which is useful for the Dark matchup, as well as Drain Punch if the team needs additional help in beating threats like Bisharp and Avalugg. Aegislash can be used with specially defensive or offensive sets, which are both useful additions to any Ghost team. The former variant helps stall out damage, while the latter gives Ghost extra priority and Steel-type coverage. Polteageist is a Shell Smash sweeper on hyper offensive Ghost teams that can beat Pokemon Chandelure cannot properly deal with such as Rhyperior, Seismitoad, Toxapex, and Galarian Weezing with its Grass-type coverage and Stored Power. Froslass is a suicide lead that also supports more offensive Ghost-type teams with Taunt and Spikes to deal chip damage and stack up with Galarian Corsola's Stealth Rock, which makes it easier for Chandelure to pull off KOs. Finally, Sableye is a stallbreaker that can also notably burn Pokemon like Excadrill and Barraskewda, get rid of opposing items, use Taunt, and stay healthy throughout the match.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [Roxiee, 481576]
- <Ghost> analysis by: [Roxiee, 481576]]
- Quality checked by: [[Havens, 391540] , [Harpp, 320110]]
- Grammar checked by: [kt3, 228482]
 
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- You can shorten the Set Name to "SubCM"; easier to read and type, and a GP accepted term.
- Heavy-Duty Boots has a hyphen in between "Heavy-Duty"; apply it to all mention's of the item.

-Let's first the ordering of the first paragraph, shall we? Points should be rearranged from the top-down, as reflected in the order of the set as follows:
*Moves
*Items
*Ability
*Nature + Spread
- Content isn't necessarily bad, but let's reorder your points like this.

- Give examples of some targets for Galarian Corsola to whittle away (Excadrill, Galarian Darmanitan, etc.)
- Dragapult does a lot more than just be a great revenge killer for Dragon; would recommend to have it as its own bullet.
- Refer to the first Aegislash set you listed as "Specially Defensive", as that's the common set being run.
- Additionally, identify the "offensive sets" that would "Ghost extra priority and makes use of the Steel-type attacks." (explicitly say SD and Choice Specs here).
- Add Polteageist and Sableye.

Tag me again when you've implemented this; it's a bit too cluttered and vague for me to sign off 1/2 yet.
 

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- You can shorten the Set Name to "SubCM"; easier to read and type, and a GP accepted term.
- Heavy-Duty Boots has a hyphen in between "Heavy-Duty"; apply it to all mention's of the item.

-Let's first the ordering of the first paragraph, shall we? Points should be rearranged from the top-down, as reflected in the order of the set as follows:
*Moves
*Items
*Ability
*Nature + Spread
- Content isn't necessarily bad, but let's reorder your points like this.

- Give examples of some targets for Galarian Corsola to whittle away (Excadrill, Galarian Darmanitan, etc.)
- Dragapult does a lot more than just be a great revenge killer for Dragon; would recommend to have it as its own bullet.
- Refer to the first Aegislash set you listed as "Specially Defensive", as that's the common set being run.
- Additionally, identify the "offensive sets" that would "Ghost extra priority and makes use of the Steel-type attacks." (explicitly say SD and Choice Specs here).
- Add Polteageist and Sableye.

Tag me again when you've implemented this; it's a bit too cluttered and vague for me to sign off 1/2 yet.
implemented
 

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- Slash Fire Blast after Flamethrower on the set; it gives more immediate power especially after a CM.
- Remove all mentions of Kyurem-B given the recent ban.
- Wood Hammer I'd remove as a mention from Mimikyu; too matchup dependent for Ghost's best sweeper. If anything I'd mention Drain Punch instead for Steels like Bisharp or Avalugg in particular so you don't get walled out.
- "Polteageist", not "Poltergeist"
- Instead of saying "at +2" which is ambiguous, say "after a Shell Smash", to be more specific.

Much better, QC 1/2
 

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[SET COMMENTS]
* 'Chandelure is a high special-attacker that Speed creeps Bisharp and becomes a powerful wall breaker with Calm Mind and Substitute. Flamethrower provides crucial coverage that helps with Ice-, Steel-, and Grass-type Pokemon such as Ferrothorn, Alolan Ninetales, and Frosmoth.' Chandelure does not speed creeps Bisharp, it naturally outspeeds it as chandelure has base 80 speed and bisharp has base 70 speed so you will have to change that, when you list out types then you have to list out examples in same order, what you did above is, you listed Ice, steel and grass and then your examples are ferrothorn, alolan ninetales and frosmoth, so change that order to fit the types you mentioned. Also dont mention frosmoth please it is a rare sight to see on ice teams, for steel type example you can mention corviknight.

* 'Calm Mind makes use of Chandelure's Substitute by gaining more power for Shadow Ball or Flamethrower. Alternatively, Psychic over Shadow Ball is a small niche that helps do extra damage to Toxapex with a small chance of KOing after Stealth Rock. ' This sentence implies that Calm Mind gains more power with Substitute which is wrong, reword this properly and Psychic has a chance 31 percent chance to KO pex but after a calm mind boost so mention that psychic has a small chance to KO pex after a cm boost, dont mention percentage.

* 'Since Chandelure is a Fire-type, Heavy-Duty Boots is a critical option so it will not take extra damage from Stealth Rock since Ghost does not have reliable hazard-removers. 'Also mention sticky web since HDB as item means Chandelure get the speed drop.

*'Chandelure plays a crucial role by handling revenge sweeping Pokemon like Shiftry or Bisharp by avoiding Sucker Punch with Substitute.' Just say threatening Pokemon to Ghost teams instead of revenge sweeping Pokemon.

* '. Investing full Speed along with Timid allows you to outspeed Bisharp and maximizing its Special Attack betters Chandelure's wall-breaking capabilities.' Also mention outspeeding Diggersby, and having a speed tie with Mamoswine.

* 'It plays a key role in crippling offensive Pokemon such as Excadrill, Galarian Darmanitan, and Dracovish with its Status moves. ' I dont think dracovish fits the example here since Gcorsola cant switch in against scarf dracovish:
252 Atk Strong Jaw Dracovish Fishious Rend (170 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Corsola-Galar: 156-184 (48.1 - 56.7%) -- 88.7% chance to 2HKO
So remove Dracovish, you can use mamoswine as example.


* ' Choice Scarf Dragapult is useful for out-speeding slower Choice Scarf Pokemon like Hydreigon or Gengar and providing Ghost-, Electric-, Dragon-, and Fire-type coverage.' above this line you already mentioned Dragapult along with Gengar improving match ups for Chandelure so you dont need to mention every coverage it gets here, remove the line about coverage in this sentence.

* 'Polteageist is useful with Shell Smash and can put in a lot of work with Stored Power, Shadow Ball, and Giga Drain after a Shell Smash.' You need to mention why Polteageist is a good partner to chandelure, we know it is a shell smash user but why should it be paired with chandelure? is what you need to mention, the same goes for Aegislash which you mentioned before this line. Instead of simply stating x pokemon does x thing, mention it in relation with chandelure, like for example: Polteageist can take advantage of chandelure wallbreaking teams and its potential to deal with threat like Bisharp, in return Polteagesit can clean teams better late-game with Shell Smash. I hope this explains. Same applies to your Froslass and Sableye mentions.

QC 2/2 when implemented
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Alright, as a general note, this analysis -- while very detailed -- is really cluttery. Much of the second paragraph expounds on a teammate's set, which is a tad unnecessary imo.
 
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gp 1/1 once fully implemented. Sorry if the check looks very daunting, but, as stated above, there were issues with verbosity and fluff. If you want, you can tag me, and I can double check if you've implemented everything. :>

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[SET]
name: SubCM Chandelure (Ghost)
move 1: Flamethrower / Fire Blast
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Calm Mind
move 4: Substitute
item: Heavy-Duty Boots / Leftovers
ability: Infiltrator
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Chandelure is a high powerful special attacker (RH) that naturally outspeeds Bisharp and becomes a powerful wall(no space)breaker with Calm Mind and Substitute. Flamethrower provides crucial coverage that helps with Ice-, Steel-, and Grass-type Pokemon such as Alolan Ninetales, Lucario, and Ferrothorn. Calm Mind boosts Chandelure's Special Attack even more by gaining more power for Shadow Ball or Flamethrower (unnecessary) and pairs well with Substitute. Alternatively, Psychic over Shadow Ball is a small niche option that has a small chance of KOing Toxapex after Stealth Rock. Since Chandelure is a Fire-type and Ghost does not have reliable entry hazard removers, Heavy-Duty Boots is a critical option so it will not take extra damage from Stealth Rock since Ghost does not have reliable hazard removers. Leftovers is also an option to gain recovery after setting up Substitute. Its Infiltrator ability is useful for ignoring opponents' Aurora Veil, Light Screen, Reflect screens and Substitute. Chandelure plays a crucial role by threatening Sucker Punch Pokemon users, (AC) like Shiftry or and Bisharp, (AC so it's not ambiguous) with Substitute. Investing full Speed along with a Timid nature allows you Chandelure to outspeed Bisharp and Diggersby and speed ties Speed tie with Mamoswine, (SC -> C) while maximizing its Special Attack betters Chandelure's its wallbreaking (RH) capabilities.

Galarian Corsola is a defensive wall that can set up Stealth Rock, (AC) which helps the entire team in doing by dealing chip damage and breaking Focus Sash along with crippling Pokemon, notably Excadrill, Galarian Darmanitan, and Mamoswine, with Will-O-Wisp, Night Shade, and Strength Sap (is Night Shade a crippler?). It plays a key role in crippling offensive Pokemon such as Excadrill, Galarian Darmanitan, and Mamoswine with its Status moves. Dragapult and Gengar are fast sweepers that provide a lot of coverage for various matchups Chandelure needs support in such as Water, Dragon, and Flying. Choice Scarf Dragapult is useful for outspeeding (RH) slower Choice Scarf Pokemon like Hydreigon or and Gengar. Gengar learns Trick which is useful for crippling fat is another good teammate that can use Trick to cripple (the transition from being an outsped foe to a teammate wasn't clear) Pokemon such as Snorlax or Toxapex. Mimikyu is a staple on Ghost that provides can use Play Rough and Swords Dance, (AC) which is useful for the Dark matchup, (P -> C) as well as Drain Punch on Mimikyu is useful if you if the team needs additional help in beating threats like Bisharp or and Avalugg. Aegislash can be used Specially Defensively or Offensively with specially defensive or offensive sets, which are both useful additions to any Ghost team. Defense Aegislash The former variant helps stall out damage with Substitute, Toxic, and King's Shield, while offensive Aegislash the latter gives Ghost extra priority and makes use of the Steel-type attacks coverage. Polteageist is useful with Shell Smash and can put in a lot of work with Stored Power, Shadow Ball, and Giga Drain after a Shell Smash and fits more is a Shell Smash sweeper on hyper offensive Ghost teams. Poltergeist provides Grass-coverage which is useful against that can beat Pokemon Chandelure cannot properly deal with such as Rhyperior or Seismitoad, Stored Power, which hits Poison-type Pokemon like Toxapex or Galarian Weezing effectively, and Ghost-type STAB Rhyperior, Seismitoad, Toxapex, and Galarian Weezing with its Grass-type coverage and Stored Power. Froslass is a suicide lead that also supports more offensive Ghost-type teams with Taunt and Spikes. Spikes to deal chips damage and stacks up with Galarian Corsola's Stealth Rock, (AC) which makes it easier for Chandelure to pull of kills off KOs. Finally, Sableye can be used as a Stallbreaker with Knock Off, Taunt, Recover, and Will-O-Wisp. Sableye plays an important for statusing is a stallbreaker that can also notably burn Pokemon like Excadrill and Barraskewda, getting get rid of opposing items, taunting non-attacking moves, and gaining recovery to keep it alive use Taunt, and stay healthy throughout the match.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [Roxiee, 481576]
- <Ghost> analysis by: [Roxiee, 481576]]
- Quality checked by: [[Havens, 391540] , [Harpp, 320110]]
- Grammar checked by: [username1, userid1]
 

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gp 1/1 once fully implemented. Sorry if the check looks very daunting, but, as stated above, there were issues with verbosity and fluff. If you want, you can tag me, and I can double check if you've implemented everything. :>

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[SET]
name: SubCM Chandelure (Ghost)
move 1: Flamethrower / Fire Blast
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Calm Mind
move 4: Substitute
item: Heavy-Duty Boots / Leftovers
ability: Infiltrator
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Chandelure is a high powerful special attacker (RH) that naturally outspeeds Bisharp and becomes a powerful wall(no space)breaker with Calm Mind and Substitute. Flamethrower provides crucial coverage that helps with Ice-, Steel-, and Grass-type Pokemon such as Alolan Ninetales, Lucario, and Ferrothorn. Calm Mind boosts Chandelure's Special Attack even more by gaining more power for Shadow Ball or Flamethrower (unnecessary) and pairs well with Substitute. Alternatively, Psychic over Shadow Ball is a small niche option that has a small chance of KOing Toxapex after Stealth Rock. Since Chandelure is a Fire-type and Ghost does not have reliable entry hazard removers, Heavy-Duty Boots is a critical option so it will not take extra damage from Stealth Rock since Ghost does not have reliable hazard removers. Leftovers is also an option to gain recovery after setting up Substitute. Its Infiltrator ability is useful for ignoring opponents' Aurora Veil, Light Screen, Reflect screens and Substitute. Chandelure plays a crucial role by threatening Sucker Punch Pokemon users, (AC) like Shiftry or and Bisharp, (AC so it's not ambiguous) with Substitute. Investing full Speed along with a Timid nature allows you Chandelure to outspeed Bisharp and Diggersby and speed ties Speed tie with Mamoswine, (SC -> C) while maximizing its Special Attack betters Chandelure's its wallbreaking (RH) capabilities.

Galarian Corsola is a defensive wall that can set up Stealth Rock, (AC) which helps the entire team in doing by dealing chip damage and breaking Focus Sash along with crippling Pokemon, notably Excadrill, Galarian Darmanitan, and Mamoswine, with Will-O-Wisp, Night Shade, and Strength Sap (is Night Shade a crippler?). It plays a key role in crippling offensive Pokemon such as Excadrill, Galarian Darmanitan, and Mamoswine with its Status moves. Dragapult and Gengar are fast sweepers that provide a lot of coverage for various matchups Chandelure needs support in such as Water, Dragon, and Flying. Choice Scarf Dragapult is useful for outspeeding (RH) slower Choice Scarf Pokemon like Hydreigon or and Gengar. Gengar learns Trick which is useful for crippling fat is another good teammate that can use Trick to cripple (the transition from being an outsped foe to a teammate wasn't clear) Pokemon such as Snorlax or Toxapex. Mimikyu is a staple on Ghost that provides can use Play Rough and Swords Dance, (AC) which is useful for the Dark matchup, (P -> C) as well as Drain Punch on Mimikyu is useful if you if the team needs additional help in beating threats like Bisharp or and Avalugg. Aegislash can be used Specially Defensively or Offensively with specially defensive or offensive sets, which are both useful additions to any Ghost team. Defense Aegislash The former variant helps stall out damage with Substitute, Toxic, and King's Shield, while offensive Aegislash the latter gives Ghost extra priority and makes use of the Steel-type attacks coverage. Polteageist is useful with Shell Smash and can put in a lot of work with Stored Power, Shadow Ball, and Giga Drain after a Shell Smash and fits more is a Shell Smash sweeper on hyper offensive Ghost teams. Poltergeist provides Grass-coverage which is useful against that can beat Pokemon Chandelure cannot properly deal with such as Rhyperior or Seismitoad, Stored Power, which hits Poison-type Pokemon like Toxapex or Galarian Weezing effectively, and Ghost-type STAB Rhyperior, Seismitoad, Toxapex, and Galarian Weezing with its Grass-type coverage and Stored Power. Froslass is a suicide lead that also supports more offensive Ghost-type teams with Taunt and Spikes. Spikes to deal chips damage and stacks up with Galarian Corsola's Stealth Rock, (AC) which makes it easier for Chandelure to pull of kills off KOs. Finally, Sableye can be used as a Stallbreaker with Knock Off, Taunt, Recover, and Will-O-Wisp. Sableye plays an important for statusing is a stallbreaker that can also notably burn Pokemon like Excadrill and Barraskewda, getting get rid of opposing items, taunting non-attacking moves, and gaining recovery to keep it alive use Taunt, and stay healthy throughout the match.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [Roxiee, 481576]
- <Ghost> analysis by: [Roxiee, 481576]]
- Quality checked by: [[Havens, 391540] , [Harpp, 320110]]
- Grammar checked by: [username1, userid1]
thanks, i wanted qc to possibly recheck but I didn't know exactly to reword some of the stuff in the second paragraph. But I will take note of this as a guide for future analyses
 
same colors. some polishing here and there, but good job :>.

[SET]
name: SubCM (Ghost)
move 1: Flamethrower / Fire Blast
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Calm Mind
move 4: Substitute
item: Heavy-Duty Boots / Leftovers
ability: Infiltrator
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Chandelure is a powerful special-attacker special attacker that naturally outspeeds Bisharp and becomes a powerful wallbreaker with Calm Mind and Substitute. Flamethrower provides crucial coverage that helps with Ice-, Steel-, and Grass-type Pokemon such as Alolan Ninetales, Lucario, and Ferrothorn. Calm Mind boosts Chandelure's Special Attack even more and pairs well with Substitute. Alternatively, Psychic over Shadow Ball is a niche option that has a small chance of KOing Toxapex after Stealth Rock. Since Chandelure is a Fire-type, (RC; you might miss this, so I'm making it bigger) and Ghost does not have reliable entry hazard removers, Heavy-Duty Boots is a critical option so it will not take damage from Stealth Rock. Leftovers is also an option to gain recovery after setting up Substitute. Its Infiltrator ability is useful for ignoring screens and Substitute. Chandelure plays a crucial role by threatening Sucker Punch users, like Shiftry and Bisharp, with Substitute. Investing full Speed along with a Timid nature allows you Chandelure to outspeed Bisharp and Diggersby and Speed tie with Mamoswine, while maximizing its Special Attack betters its wallbreaking capabilities.

Galarian Corsola is a wall that can set up Stealth Rock, which helps the entire team by dealing chip damage and breaking Focus Sash along with crippling Pokemon, notably Excadrill, Galarian Darmanitan, and Mamoswine, with Will-O-Wisp, Night Shade, and Strength Sap Will-O-Wisp and Strength Sap (I'm still not sold on Night Shade crippling). Dragapult and Gengar are fast sweepers that provide a lot of coverage for various matchups Chandelure needs support in such as Water, Dragon, and Flying. Choice Scarf Dragapult is useful for outspeeding slower Choice Scarf Pokemon like Hydreigon and Gengar. Gengar is another good teammate that can use Trick to cripple (fix spacing here) Pokemon such as Snorlax or and Toxapex. Mimikyu is a staple on Ghost that can use Play Rough and Swords Dance, which is useful for the Dark matchup, as well as Drain Punch if the team needs (fix spacing here) additional help in beating threats like Bisharp and Avalugg. Aegislash can be used (space) with specially defensive or offensive sets, which are both useful additions to any Ghost team. The formet former variant helps stall out damage, (comma and fix spacing) while the latter gives Ghost extra priority and Steel-type coverage. Polteageist is a Shell Smash sweeper on hyper offensive Ghost teams that can beat Pokemon Chandelure cannot properly deal with such as Rhyperior, Seismitoad, Toxapex, and Galarian Weezing with its Grass-type coverage and Stored Power. Froslass is a suicide lead that also supports more offensive Ghost-type teams with Taunt and Spikes to deal chip damage and stack up with Galarian Corsola's Stealth Rock, which makes it easier for Chandelure to pull off KOs. Finally, Sableye is a stallbreaker that can also notably burn Pokemon like Excadrill and Barraskewda, get rid of opposing items, use Taunt, and stay healthy throughout the match.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [Roxiee, 481576]
- <Ghost> analysis by: [Roxiee, 481576]]
- Quality checked by: [[Havens, 391540] , [Harpp, 320110]]
- Grammar checked by: [kt3, 228482]
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[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Roxiee, 481576]]
- Ghost analysis by: [[Roxiee, 481576]]
- Quality checked by: [[Havens, 391540], [Harpp, 320110]]
- Grammar checked by: [kt3, 228482]
 

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