alexwolf I'll add Roar back in, but Synthesis is a bit weird. Recovery is weird when you could just get HP back later, and if you have the teammates I mentioned in Team Options such as Heatran, then it could take care of Venusaur far better than Chesnaught ever could. Do you have the same idea as Jukain as what the set even is? Like I've mentioned in the analysis, Chesnaught is a lot of things. You seem to think Chesnaught is more of a wall. Also, what should the set name be?