Could Use a Bit of Advice for this Team

[Buckeye5865]

At a Glance:

The purpose of this team is to take out all of Umbreon's counters so I can eventually sweep. Without further ado, here is a closer look at my team.

Zapdos Bold @ Leftovers
252 HP/220 Def/38 Spe
Thunderbolt
Heatwave
HP Ice
Roost

Zapdos is one of my physical tanks/bulky special sweepers. He does a great job at countering Scizor before he gets too many SDs, and does a decent job against things like Gyarados and Flygon. I have been debating whether or not I should Switch HP Ice with Hp Grass for Swampert. Any suggestions?

Heatran Hasty @ Choice Scarf
6 Atk/252 SpA/252 Spe
Flamethrower
HP Ice
Earth Power
Explosion

Pretty typical Revenge Killer ScarfTran. I decided to go with Flamethrower over Fire Blast because of accuracy, but am thinking about swithing for the extra power. Earth Power is an obvisous choice, and HP Ice allows me to take out an Outraging Salamence. Explosion is mainly for speical walls.

Machamp Adamant @ Leftovers
252 HP/252 Atk/6 Spe
Dynamic Punch
Ice Punch
Stone Edge
Bullet Punch

Machamp is an absolute monster. Anyone that isn't prepared to counter it, will be taken out with a swift punch to the face. Dynamic Punch's confusion rate is pretty handy as well. Ice Punch is so Gliscor can't wall me, and Stone Edge hits Gyarados and friends hard. Bullet Punch is to take out a weakened opponent.

Gliscor Impish @ Leftovers
252 HP/12 Atk/28 Def/218 Spe
Earthquake
Ice Fang
Stealth Rock
Roost

Gliscor is my main physical wall and Lucario counter. The Evs generate enough attack and speed to get a clean OHKO on an Adamant Lucario. Ice Fang is for the Dragons that are stuck Outraging and can't escape. He can also wall Scizor rather well which is always a plus.

Mamoswine Jolly @ Choice Band
252 Atk/6 Def/252 Spe
Earthquake
Ice Shard
Stone Edge
Superpower

His main purpose here is to inflict as much pain as possible, and force the opponent into submission. I run Jolly over Adamant so I can EQ Lucario before he can CC. Ice Shard is for weakened opponents and dragons, Stone Edge for for fliers that resist ice, and Superpower is for Blissey and other special walls.

Umbreon Sassy @ Leftovers
252 HP/200 Atk/56 SpD
Curse
Wish
Payback
Baton Pass

Ok so here is the star of the show. Wish is for team support as well as healing myself, Curse is to boost attack and defense, and lower speed so Payback will always have 100 BP. I am currenty running Baton Pass so I can pass boosts if a counter shows up, but I am thinking about trying Sucker Punch because I think it sounds kind of cool.




So there is my team. I have noticed that I can have a difficult time with Suicune, and Zapdos. Does anyone have suggestions on how I can properly counter them? This team is doing pretty well, and I would like to make it better. Thank you for taking your time to read this. ​

 

[Matthew]

Ok, I'll start off with saying that your Zapdos lead isn't going to be helping you in the long run since he's not going to do much to the leads of todays metagame. You're not outspeeding Azelf who your are going to take an extremely heavy blow from and you're not fast enough to stop aerodactyal(though he has a good chance of stopping you. Since I'm a man that doesn't want to change people teams too much I'm going to suggest this Zapdos Set:

Zapdos @ Choice Scarf
Timid Nature
6 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [GRASS]
- Heat Wave
- U-Turn

With this set you'll be outspeeding every non scarfed lead and even (non Jolly) salamences after a Dragon Dance. Though that's not something to note since you're not carry Hidden power [ICE]. This is a more viable anti-lead than what you're running. Not only does he stop leads, but he can do scouting with U-Turn to see Counters and give you an advantage.

You lack a solid Status taker, but I see a pokemon on your team that can take status like a CHAMP and then pose a threat to the pokemon in. Yes, that right, Machamp is (hopefully) going to be your new Status taker by giving him Rest and Sleep talk.

Machamp @ Leftovers
No Guard
Adamant
252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Def
- Dynamic Punch
- Stone Edge
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

This set allows you to still threaten flyers like Zapdos and Salamence(not as much) by Sleep Talking Stone Edge to hit them for SE damage. alright, cool.

On to Gliscor. Lucario isn't seen often anymore, poor little guy, so having a wall for him isn't really needed (especially with Scarf-Zap and Dynamic machamp) Have you ever tried the offensive Gliscor spread? Think of him as a mini Garchomp with out the STAB Outrage and 102 speed.

Gliscor @ Life Orb
Hyper Cutter
Jolly Nature
120 HP / 200 Atk / 188 Spe
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Roost

After a single Swords Dance Gliscor can out speed and OHKO Metagross, with that Flying switch ins like Zapdos and Slamence are also OHKO via Stone Edge. Roost makes this set with the ability to heal off your Life Orb damage and start anew. You don't lose the chance to wall Lucario and Heracross with this set either. You also out speed non scarfed Salamence and Zapdos.

Mamoswine doesn't need changing

Umbreon is a cool pokemon though I hate for you to change him since it seems like you have such a bond with the little guy (been there). I will suggest his cousin, Vaporeon(this is the millionth time I've suggested Vaporeon today) can do the Wish passing, and be extra bulky at that.

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Bold Nature
180 HP 252 Def 68 SpDef
- Wish
- Protect
- Surf
- Hidden Power [ELECTRIC]/Ice Beam

This set allows you to Wish Pass, and still pose a threat to many different pokemon. Hidden Power [ELECTRIC] if you feel your team needs more protecting against Water types, or Ice Beam if you want more protect agaisnt Dragons and Grasses, it's really up to you.

Good Evening,
Empoleon

 

[Upa]

Put Life orb on Mamo since you can't risk using the same Ice Shard over and over, and sometimes a magnezone pops in and u are screwed!

Life Orb Performs better on your mamo, because then it is free to use the other moves.

 

[Buckeye5865]

Thank you both very much for your input. I will definitely take all of your suggestions into consideration.

 

[Puma Italia]

you have ice moves on 5/6 guys on your team so I'd definitely suggest going with HP Grass over HP Ice. Heck you can do it for either Heatran or Zapdos because pert comes in on both of them pretty often.