Dancing on the Tightrope: A Balanced OU Team

Dancing on the Tightrope:
A Balanced OU Team

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Hello everyone,
The basic idea behind this team is to provide swift, strong attacks with strong defensive support to stop opposing teams in their tracks. To this end, I have constructed a team with good synergy and excellent coverage that consistently nets me the victory.
Now the first version, rated and reviewed by Oranos - for which I am most grateful - was okay for a start, with a few good choices, a few bad ones and some that didn't work well. That version of the team can be viewed here:
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Greninja @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Dark Pulse
- Ice Beam
- U Turn


From what I know this is a fairly standard set, and definitely the single hardest working member of the team. The amount of KO's this Greninja gets is obscene, as it's great coverage - combined with protean - ensures that something is getting hit with a STAB super-effective move, or in the worst case scenario, Greninja U Turns out to a more appropriate counter. Honest to God, I'm still surprised by the amount of threats this thing outspeeds and OHKO's - I have lost count of how many Mega Gengar's Greninja has wiped out in one shot on Battle Spot. Basically, Greninja is my MVP and if possible, I want to keep him on the team. If not because he is demonstrably good, then because I hatched well over 350 eggs to get this shiny mother!

Toxicroak @ Black Sludge
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4HP
Adamant Nature
-Sucker Punch
-Poison Jab
-Drain Punch
-Swords Dance


Honestly, probably the most replaceable member of the team, Toxicroak is also the latest addition. Originally the sixth spot on the team went to a Galvantula, but I found myself never using it because - aside from setting up sticky web - I found it to be a little lacklustre. Toxicroak functions as a decent physical attacker on the team, with good priority in sucker punch and some much needed coverage moves to help deal with fairy types and those weak to physical fighting moves. Swords dance is there for the highly beneficial + 2 boost to attack, but if I'm totally truthful, I rarely find time to set it up due to Toxicroak's frailty.

Talonflame @ Choice Band
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Brave Bird
- U Turn
- Roost


This is the pokemon I need help with most. Whilst the other members of the team are capable of filling their roles well and adapting to the flow of the match, Talonflame is very limited i his options. I run a choice band for the extra initial power, which has netted a few surprise KO's with Brave Bird, but i doing so I have made Roost and to a lesser extent U Turn obsolete. Flare Blitz, too, very rarely gets to see use because Talonflame usually cleans up late game with Brave Bird. I've heard mixed things about a bulk up set, but am concerned about Talonflame's frailty when setting up. Any help with this guy would be much appreciated!

Blastoise @ Blastoisinite
Ability: Rain Dish + Mega Launcher
EV's: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Def
Bold Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Dark Pulse
- Water Pulse
- Aura Sphere


The tank. Blastoise has been designed primarily to take hits: a bold nature combined with maximum special defense investment makes him decently bulky on both sides - cemented by complete HP investment. Because Talonflame's presence, Blastoise runs rapid spin to remove any pesky rocks that may appear on the field, along with any other hazards. This means Blastoise may switch in and out a lot, so I opted for a bulky spinning set rather than an offensive one. The practical upshot of this is that it also makes him a usable mixed pivot.

Cofagrigus @ Lum Berry
Ability: Mummy
EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Nasty Plot
- Shadow Ball
- Rest


The defensive behemoth that is Cofagrigus fears only two things in life: Pyroar and special attackers. Initially the set I used included Hex in place of Shadow Ball and Toxic Spikes over rest, with a Spooky Plate. However, I can't recall a match where I had a free turn to set up toxic spikes and hex is only reliable if I hit the Will-O-Wisp, which is a little risky sometimes. Because Cofagrigus is so bulky on the defensive side, especially after getting off a will-o-wisp, he can become nigh unstoppable once all significant special threats are taken care of. Combined with the possibility of a single turn in which to heal off all damage and status with rest/lum, Cofagrigus can be hard to take down. I have recently been considering using a Rocky Helmet too to punish physical attackers for attempting to harm Cofagrigus.

Florges @ Leftovers
Ability: Flower Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Def
Calm Nature
- Moonblast
- Toxic
- Aromatherapy
- Wish


Complimenting Cofagrigus, the physical wall of the team, is Florges; the elegant special wall and cleric. She has been through some punishment in her tenure on the team, but usually comes out on top after a wish and a toxic. There aren't many special attackers that can faze her, and anything that doesn't mind taking a moonblast will be met with a toxic - except for steel and poison types, of course. Her role extends beyond that of a simple wall, however, as Florges is a very capable cleric. Has Cofagrigus used its Lum but needed to rest anyway? Sleep cured. Is Blastoise afflicted with toxic damage? Aroma therapeutic antidote is at hand. Greninja down to red against an enemy that just rested? A little wish upon a star and he's ready for another turn! Just as in the case of Cofagrigus, Florges has saved the team from defeat too many times to mention and the two seem to have great synergy. I would consider replacing a move with protect for some wish-protect mischief, but honestly she needs moonblast to ensure she's not total Taunt-bait and toxic to get extra status damage on anything Cofagrigus can't hit.

The issue with the first version of my team is that a couple of the members have not got great synergy and, as quite rightly pointed out, there is an overabundance of water type pokemon (or in the case of Toxicroak, those that rely on rain to thrive) involved.

With that in mind, I have taken the comments of Oranos on board and am finished building version two of the team, which can be viewed and reviewed here. Please bare in mind, I play a lot of Battle Spot where the Item Clause is enforced, so I haven't used duplicate items here:

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Greninja @ Life Orb
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Ability: Protean
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Timid Nature
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Hydro Pump
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Dark Pulse
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Ice Beam
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U Turn

As previously stated, this is the MVP of the team. Providing fast offense and a diverse movepool of STAB moves with Protean, Greninja is my special sweeper of choice. In the previous line up, Greninja seemed to prop up the other members of the team by defeating opponents near single-handed, and any victories usually came off of Greninja's back. Now the team has more synergy and a better, more appropriate line-up Greninja doesn't feel as pressured to deal with the opponent solo anymore. Because of it's speed and god coverage, Greninja is usually the Pokemon I lead with, hitting a multitude of opponents super-effectively with a STAB Life-Orb'd attack or simply U-Turning out of a Pokemon it can't deal with to maintain momentum, get a little extra damage off and allow me to bring in a better counter.

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Dragonite @ Lum Berry
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Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
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Dragon Dance
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Outrage
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Fire Punch
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Earthquake

So Talonflame has gone, and in its place we have the original dragon, Dragonite. Talonflame, though a good member of the team, was terribly frail and difficult to switch in. Moreover, the recoil damage from its moves were a constant drain on its ability to survive, even with Roost recovery. Gale Wings priority Brave Bird will be missed, but Dragonite has its own attributes that soften the blow. Multiscale allows it to survive nearly any hit when it comes to setting up Dragon Dances, whilst Fire Punch and Earthquake provide the necessary coverage to hit back against the Steel, Rock and Grass types that it would otherwise struggle to touch and absolutely wrecks Scizor. Outrage is the STAB move of choice, providing insane levels of power that crush anything that doesn't resist it, and Lum berry staves off everything from sleep and burn to confusion. A brilliant late-game sweeper and perfectly capable of taking a hit on the switch, thanks to resistances to Water, Fire and Grass moves.
I have forgone Extreme Speed because I don't currently have access to it, and Roost because Dragonite suffers four move slot syndrome and Sylveon with Wish somewhat remedies the lack of recovery.

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Excadrill @ Focus Sash
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Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 176 HP / 60 Atk / 252 SpD / 20 Spe
Adamant Nature
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Rapid Spin
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Earthquake
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Swords Dance
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Rock Slide

With Talonflame on the team, I needed a Rapid Spinner. No way around it. I tried Mega Blastoise initially, but all that provided was a slower, lesser Greninja with Rapid Spin and no protection from Electric or Grass-type moves. Enter Excadrill, Blastoise's incredible replacement. Using the Bulky set from BW, Excadrill is surprisingly capable of taking hits, especially with team support (which we'll get to next). Moreover, it is immune to the Electric type attacks that previously threatened half of my team and hits them back with Mold Breaker Earthquakes. After a Swords Dance, this thing is lethal and has 2HKO'd Bulky Cress with Rock Slide (because I kept predicting Charizard Y to come in) whilst taking almost no damage from Psychic in return. In the same match, Excadrill took out an opposing M-Scizor and Aegislash almost single-handed, too - again with a little support from the next guy - and made a surprise sweep on Battle Spot. All in all, Excadrill pulls its weight and, if brought in correctly, can and will sweep teams. Random passer's by with Mewtwo's, beware; this thing has already defeated a number of your kind! Focus Sash allows me to get off a rock slide against Talonflame, assuming Excadrill is at full health, since this guy is the best offensive threat to Talonflame.

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Sableye @ Rocky Helmet
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Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
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Will-O-Wisp
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Recover
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Taunt
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Foul Play

This shifty bugger right here has surprised me time and time again. Crafty doesn't even begin to cover it, and I feel dirty when this little Tyrion-the-Imp of a swine secures me a victory. In the best way possible.
Sableye is an annoyer and status-crippler that takes pride in its job: making a laughing stock of physical threats. At first I was anxious about taking Cofagrigus - my initial physical wall - off the team, until I realised that with priority burn and recovery, Sableye takes the same hits, but better. Taunt shuts down boosting and set up moves, which is excellent considering the frailty of two of the team members. Will-O-Wisp, dear God. Sableye throws burn around like it's going out of fashion and, unless it sells the stocks by tomorrow, the gem-greedy little git will go bankrupt! Seriously, I cannot stress how important this thing has been to the team. Physical Aegislash is no longer threatening, for start. And Foul Play?
Put it this way. Yesterday I was playing Battle Spot, made a few terrible plays and lost my Greninja - along with Ice Beam - to a Dragonite with two Dragon Dances and a Weakness Policy boost under its belt. Enter Sableye, who inflicts burn instantly - as is his want - and then straight-up OHKOes with Foul Play. This sneaky little so-and-so straight up crippled the opponent, took the Earthquake like it was nothing, then ruined Dragonite with its own power! Then, as salt in the wound, Recovered off all the damage it had taken.
I hope you feel good about that, Sableye.
Because I do.


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Sylveon @ Leftovers
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Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
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Hyper Voice
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Wish
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Protect
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Heal Bell

Fairy. Cutie. Cleric. Special Wall. Dragonslayer. Oh, and she hits past Substitute, too. Meet Sylveon; the adorably dangerous replacement to Florges. This little lady does everything Florges does, but better. As you might have guessed, I play a lot of Battle Spot - hence the adhering to an item clause - and I face a lot of Ubers-rich passers by. Sylveon has destroyed Giratina, Zekrom, Garchomp. She takes pride in slaying dragons. A nicely bulky special wall; there aren't manner special attacks Sylveon can't eat up, before responding with a quick Wish/Protect or Hyper Voice. She is also a great cleric, providing respectably-sized wishes and a few Heal Bells when required.

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Venusaur @ Venusaurite
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Ability: Chlorophyll/Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Bold Nature
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Giga Drain
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Sludge Bomb
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Sleep Powder
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Synthesis

The new Mega on the team is also a good Mixed wall. With Thick Fat, M-Venusaur doesn't fear much at all. It can sponge most attacks, then hit back with a vitality-stealing Giga Drain or a potentially poison-inducing Sludge Bomb. If counter-attacking isn't to our fancy, Venusaur can simply put the enemy to sleep or recover off half its health with Synthesis. Essentially, Venusaur is a strong defensive presence on the team that nicely compliments the pure-defense and pure-special defense of Sableye and Sylveon, provides some nice anti-Fairy coverage and forms part of a F/W/G core with Talonflame and Greninja.
A little stall-y, Venusaur has nonetheless proved its worth on the team.


Threat List:
1) Talonflame
- Off the top of my head, Talonflame is my biggest concern. Nothing on my team wants to take a priority Brave Bird and those that can are either crippled (in the case of my own Talonflame) or out-sped and KO'd with Flare Blitz. The best answer I have is Excadrill predicting Talonflame to come in and nailing it with a Rock Slide, but that scenario won't always present itself.

I thank you for your continued critiques of the team. Please be constructive and try to remember that I'm a newbie to the competitive battling scene!​
 
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So I see the skeleton of the team is physical tank/special tank/mixed bulky offense/ 2 fast sweepers/a toxicroak, which is a good setup (minus the toxicroak). For the specific mons;

Greninja: as you say this guy is a beast, no complaints here

Toxicroak: Not sure what's up with the water fetish (3 of them! ) but this guy has to go. Since you have a fair amount of speed already, I would recommend a good wall breaker. Choice band terrakion gives you some great coverage and can punch big holes in anything that tries to check talonflame or greninja. Choice band Staraptor also works great with talonflame, as has been discussed to death in other threads. But I would hesitate to add a third electric weakness, especially with no ground types

Talonflame: his best set, by far, is swords dance/roost/brave bird/flare blitz (or swap roost for u-turn if you want to go full suicide) with a life orb. Choice band is trying to make him into something that he's not (a wallbreaker). He scares out so many pokemon that you can often get off a swords dance and proceed to alternate between brave birds and flare blitzes.

Blastoise: and another water type :D I will just come right out and say that venosaur is a superior mixed tank in (almost) every conceivable way. Sleep, plenty of self recovery, useful stabs, take your pick of his excellent tank moves and switch over to mega venosaur today. Not only is he just a better mega, but his poison and grass coverage will be appreciated much more than blastoise "I'm a shittier greninja". The one caveat here is that you lose rapid spin, which is a nono with talonflame. Since this team is fairly bulky and nobody uses spikes anymore you could forgo spin/defog support and use another fast sweeper like scarf garchomp instead of talonflame. Or you could replace one of your current support mons with a defog user (or replace toxicroak with excadrill). Take your pick but it isn't worth keeping blastoise for rapid spin.

Coffin: I'll admit I've seen this mon maybe twice in all my many battles, so I'm not overly familiar with him. My first instinct is to say switch him for sableye, which gives you priority burn, recovery, and taunt (plus the ever useful knock off), but you would lose some defense here (and a nasty plot sweeper). If he works well in his role then great, but I imagine you would get more out of skarmory (phasing and defog) or hippowdon (phasing and earthquake). They both have multi-use recovery that also let's them run leftovers. They are also both more tanky. They do less damage but you don't really need your physical wall to be sweeping anyone (plus they can easily phase him out, since I assume he needs 2 nasty plot boosts to really sweep, unlike something like lucario)

Florges: Sylveon is stronger (and infinitely cooler looking) with hyper voice, and passes much larger wishes. And did I mention sylveon looks 100x cooler? I would keep the same move set (replace aromatherapy for heal bell obviously). Chansey is another top tier option for a special wall, especially with your coffin to lol at fighting attacks.
 
So I see the skeleton of the team is physical tank/special tank/mixed bulky offense/ 2 fast sweepers/a toxicroak, which is a good setup (minus the toxicroak). For the specific mons;

Greninja: as you say this guy is a beast, no complaints here

Toxicroak: Not sure what's up with the water fetish (3 of them! ) but this guy has to go. Since you have a fair amount of speed already, I would recommend a good wall breaker. Choice band terrakion gives you some great coverage and can punch big holes in anything that tries to check talonflame or greninja. Choice band Staraptor also works great with talonflame, as has been discussed to death in other threads. But I would hesitate to add a third electric weakness, especially with no ground types

Talonflame: his best set, by far, is swords dance/roost/brave bird/flare blitz (or swap roost for u-turn if you want to go full suicide) with a life orb. Choice band is trying to make him into something that he's not (a wallbreaker). He scares out so many pokemon that you can often get off a swords dance and proceed to alternate between brave birds and flare blitzes.

Blastoise: and another water type :D I will just come right out and say that venosaur is a superior mixed tank in (almost) every conceivable way. Sleep, plenty of self recovery, useful stabs, take your pick of his excellent tank moves and switch over to mega venosaur today. Not only is he just a better mega, but his poison and grass coverage will be appreciated much more than blastoise "I'm a shittier greninja". The one caveat here is that you lose rapid spin, which is a nono with talonflame. Since this team is fairly bulky and nobody uses spikes anymore you could forgo spin/defog support and use another fast sweeper like scarf garchomp instead of talonflame. Or you could replace one of your current support mons with a defog user (or replace toxicroak with excadrill). Take your pick but it isn't worth keeping blastoise for rapid spin.

Coffin: I'll admit I've seen this mon maybe twice in all my many battles, so I'm not overly familiar with him. My first instinct is to say switch him for sableye, which gives you priority burn, recovery, and taunt (plus the ever useful knock off), but you would lose some defense here (and a nasty plot sweeper). If he works well in his role then great, but I imagine you would get more out of skarmory (phasing and defog) or hippowdon (phasing and earthquake). They both have multi-use recovery that also let's them run leftovers. They are also both more tanky. They do less damage but you don't really need your physical wall to be sweeping anyone (plus they can easily phase him out, since I assume he needs 2 nasty plot boosts to really sweep, unlike something like lucario)

Florges: Sylveon is stronger (and infinitely cooler looking) with hyper voice, and passes much larger wishes. And did I mention sylveon looks 100x cooler? I would keep the same move set (replace aromatherapy for heal bell obviously). Chansey is another top tier option for a special wall, especially with your coffin to lol at fighting attacks.

Yeah, I was very conscious of my over-dependence on water types here but to be honest, I hadn't even considered the similarity between Greninja and Blastoise, the latter of which is, as you say, inferior.

Taking your advice on board, would the following team change be potentially better or would it be just as useless?

1) Give Greninja Expert Belt instead of life orb so that...
2) Talonflame (new set substituting U Turn for Swords Dance) can now hold Life Orb.
3) Replace Toxicroak with either
I: Bulky Excadrill Mold Breaker set from Gen V Ubers with Rapid Spin, Earthquake, Rock Slide and Swords Dance (I have no access to Iron Head Mold Breaker)
II: Jolly Mold Breaker Excadrill, Max Speed + Max HP with same set as above.
4) Replace Blastoise with Bold, Max HP, Max SpD Mega Venusaur.
5) Replace Florges with Calm Max HP, Max SpD Sylveon (Pixilate, Hyper Voice, Wish, Heal Bell, Toxic)
6) Cofagrigus will stay unchanged I think, because despite lacking priority or consistent recovery, he is a brilliant defensive pivot alongside being a physical wall ad spin blocker. Skarmory might be interesting, but I worry that it doesn't fill the same roles as Cofagrigus?

What are your thoughts on such a set of changes? Again, I am a total novice when it comes to EV spreads and the like so please bear with me!
 
I think those changes will help a ton, I would go bulky excadrill if he's going to be coming in and spinning. I hate the in-game item clause but since you're stuck with it then ya giving expert belt to ninja so that Talonflame can use life orb seems like a good call. One thing I didn't notice before; on coffin, swap lum berry for Chesto berry. Rest automatically removes any negative status effects on its own, and you don't want to accidentally use your berry when they poison you or something; you wouldn't be able to rest and recover HP then!
 
I know, the item clause is a bit of bugger to deal with sometimes! Do you reckon the drop in extra power would be too detrimental to Greninja's power output? Good call on ChestoCoffin as well; I had faced some issues before when I got hit by a swagger only to be cured of confusion by the over-achieving lum! I will update the original post once all have been EV trained and tested a little. Thank you a bunch for the help so far, it's much appreciated!
 
Yeah, I was very conscious of my over-dependence on water types here but to be honest, I hadn't even considered the similarity between Greninja and Blastoise, the latter of which is, as you say, inferior.

Taking your advice on board, would the following team change be potentially better or would it be just as useless?

1) Give Greninja Expert Belt instead of life orb so that...
2) Talonflame (new set substituting U Turn for Swords Dance) can now hold Life Orb.
3) Replace Toxicroak with either
I: Bulky Excadrill Mold Breaker set from Gen V Ubers with Rapid Spin, Earthquake, Rock Slide and Swords Dance (I have no access to Iron Head Mold Breaker)
II: Jolly Mold Breaker Excadrill, Max Speed + Max HP with same set as above.
4) Replace Blastoise with Bold, Max HP, Max SpD Mega Venusaur.
5) Replace Florges with Calm Max HP, Max SpD Sylveon (Pixilate, Hyper Voice, Wish, Heal Bell, Toxic)
6) Cofagrigus will stay unchanged I think, because despite lacking priority or consistent recovery, he is a brilliant defensive pivot alongside being a physical wall ad spin blocker. Skarmory might be interesting, but I worry that it doesn't fill the same roles as Cofagrigus?

What are your thoughts on such a set of changes? Again, I am a total novice when it comes to EV spreads and the like so please bear with me!

Hey Oranos, nice rate.

JW: My question to you is, are you really in need of a cleric. Regardless if the Cleric is Florges, Sylveon, Eviolite Chansey or Leftovers Blissey; I don't believe you need a cleric seeing as how your special and physical attackers are not bulky enough to warrant a WoW or a Toxic unless your going up against a devout stall team.

Now, if you are committed to running a fairy type, then ignore what I'm about to say but I believe your team would greatly benefit from a stealth rocker of some sort.

Based on the lingo, it appears this team is on a cartridge but if not, why not running the following lead:

Deoxys-S @ Focus Sash
EV: 252 SpD / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Ability: Pressure
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Magic Coat
- Taunt
- Fire Punch

With this set your guaranteed to set up rocks, reflect any status with priority Magic Coat, can Taunt opposing hazard leads like skarmory, forretress, ferrothorn, etc... and fire punch is there so you can net a cheap KO to those leads if they decide to stay in.

If you don't have a Deoxys-S, then you can try the following:

Skarmory @ Leftovers
EV: 252 Def / 32 SpD / 224 HP
Ability: Sturdy
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Roost
- Brave Bird
- Taunt / Whirlwind

Same thing as Deoxys-S, the exception being that if this team is on the cartridge, you more likely to find and perfectly breed a Skarmory than you are to having a Deoxys. Skarm still gets the job done of guaranteeing rocks and providing either taunt or phazing. BB and Roost are self-explanatory.

Tell me what you think about this?
 
Hey Oranos, nice rate.

JW: My question to you is, are you really in need of a cleric. Regardless if the Cleric is Florges, Sylveon, Eviolite Chansey or Leftovers Blissey; I don't believe you need a cleric seeing as how your special and physical attackers are not bulky enough to warrant a WoW or a Toxic unless your going up against a devout stall team.

Now, if you are committed to running a fairy type, then ignore what I'm about to say but I believe your team would greatly benefit from a stealth rocker of some sort.

Based on the lingo, it appears this team is on a cartridge but if not, why not running the following lead:

Deoxys-S @ Focus Sash
EV: 252 SpD / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Ability: Pressure
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Magic Coat
- Taunt
- Fire Punch

With this set your guaranteed to set up rocks, reflect any status with priority Magic Coat, can Taunt opposing hazard leads like skarmory, forretress, ferrothorn, etc... and fire punch is there so you can net a cheap KO to those leads if they decide to stay in.

If you don't have a Deoxys-S, then you can try the following:

Skarmory @ Leftovers
EV: 252 Def / 32 SpD / 224 HP
Ability: Sturdy
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Roost
- Brave Bird
- Taunt / Whirlwind

Same thing as Deoxys-S, the exception being that if this team is on the cartridge, you more likely to find and perfectly breed a Skarmory than you are to having a Deoxys. Skarm still gets the job done of guaranteeing rocks and providing either taunt or phazing. BB and Roost are self-explanatory.

Tell me what you think about this?

I am really liking the Skarmory set (I would rather steer clear of running legendaries if I can help it so Deoxy's is a no-no for me). The only problem I have is that Sylveon/Florges's main roles are as Special Walls/Pivots rather than clerics, which is simply an additional support option for them. If I were to substitute them for Skarmory, my fear is that I would be running two steel types on the team, lose my special wall, lose my immunity to dragon type moves and become weaker to special attackers in general?
 
Me again. So I've been considering swapping out Mega Venusaur, since he is really the poke that does the least work on my team, for Specially Defensive Heatran. I know this loses my Grass STAB which is a problem, but I feel like my team could benefit well from Heatran's typing to totally check Talonflame, as well as some powerful Fire STAB and the ability to set up Stealth Rocks. The set would be as follows:

Heatran @ Air Balloon
Ability: Flash Fire
EV's: 252 HP, 4 Def, 252 SpD
Nature: Calm
- Lava Plume
- Earth Power
- Stealth Rocks
- Roar

Thoughts, opinions? Sylveon doesn't put I much work either, so maybe she could be replaced instead?
 
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