[DPPt]Stall and Scarf Team

[Sebastien Loeb]

INTRODUCTION: I wanted to realize a team that all the weakness of the preceding team covered, nevertheless the result has been terribly very bad, making the desire give me to use it, and making to return me to use my preceding team, that is decidedly noticed at the end a better team of the actual one (and so much), I wish me that with some possible installments this team can improve even if I decidedly see it hard.


MY POKéMON:

Cresselia (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/200 Def/56 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Ice Beam
- Psychic

L' I have seen to always use from the others, desire has come me to make a will it.
He has shown a great defensive ability, but it is not a great attacker, the moveset it is that standard of the classical version SleepTalker.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Surf
- Roar
- Rest
The version Calm Minder, has to defend from one of the most unpleasant Pokémons of the OU Metagame or ScarfTran. With HP Elettric I wish me to eliminate the Vaporeons that will obviously try to stop it. It suffers a lot the Life Orber but against them he can switch Pokémon.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP/220 Def/36 Spd
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Leech Seed
- Grass Knot
- Recover
- Hidden Power [Ice]
Celebi, the good anti existing Swampert.
Its assignment is that to fill with Leech Seed the adversary to help the Choice Scarfer of my team (2 Heracrosses and Magnezone).

Heracross (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Guts
EVs: 104 HP/252 Atk/152 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Megahorn
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- Pursuit
Standard physical Scarfer Sweeper, covers with her Killes on the switch a lot of with the (so many) weakness of my team. Certainly if they predict his moves he can do indeed few (perhaps nothing).

Magnezone @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Flash Cannon
- Signal Beam
Standard special Sweeper, has not done a lot in the battles that I have done with this team, accordingly with some possible installments in theory he can improve only.

Salamence (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 120 Atk/136 Spd/252 SAtk
Rash nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Brick Break
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Roost
MixMence is the first time effetiva that I make use of it, I have always used the version DDancer or the version with Choice Band, her performances they have caught a lot me, I think that in the future I will also use this moveset in other team.

Threat List:
Aerodactyl: I think that Suicune doesn't have big problems against him. Alakazam: You sends Cresselia to put to sleep the battles for a pò. In alternative ScarfCross would owe it OHKO.
Blissey: Go Heracross!
Cresselia: Go Heracross!
Celebi: Go Heracross again!
Gengar: Cresselia devastates it.
Gyarados: Suicune won't have big problems, Gyarados will use taunt and Suicune of it approffitera with her Hidden Power.
Heracross: Salamence on the change hoping that he don't use Stone Edge.
Heatran: im use Suicune
Hippowdon: Go Suicune!
Metagross: Go Suicune again!
Milotic: Suicune OHKO Milotic with CMind + HP Elettric
Raikou: Im not have real conter of Raikou/Calmkou
Salamence: Go Magnezone!
Scizor: Go Salamence!
Skarmory: Go Salamence again!
Snorlax: Heracross OHKO Lax
Stramie: Magnezone
Suicune: Magnezone again
Swampert: im use Celebi
Tyranitar: They stop him all tarnnes Magnezone.
Zapdos: Magnezone​

 

[Venom]

I barely see this combination being effective in this team, seriously, where is Toxic Spikes? Spikes? You don't even have Stealth Rock, how is this a "stall team" In order to rate your team, I have to ask to make up your mind, or I will be forced to change around most of the team. Have you tested this?

 

[Star Shaper]

Hey, you're that guy that takes what we say here in threads, and copy/pastes them word for word on your website. How awesome of you.

Leading with a Restalking Cress is asking to be beaten by every lead.

 

[Synral]

Your lead/team is owned by common Taunters and Tricksters.

And no SR, srsly? Anyway, it suffers from a lot of problems as a stall team. First off, for Heracross, you have the spread from the Choice Band Heracross. For CSHera, you want a simple 252Atk/252Spe spread. Use him as a lead, to take out fast sweepers that would threaten your defensive tanks.
Vaporeon is better over Suicune since it counters Mixape, a very common stallbreaker, and Tyranitar doesn't enjoy directly switching into Surf, either. Wish support would be helpful for things that don't have instant recovery.

While Suicune does counter 'Nape, it loses a hearty chunk to Grass Knot, Vaporeon only takes about 30%, and it can Wish off the damage.

 

[Sebastien Loeb]

Hey, you're that guy that takes what we say here in threads, and copy/pastes them word for word on your website. How awesome of you.

i have cancelled everything

Leading with a Restalking Cress is asking to be beaten by every lead.

But he must be said that it is a lot difficult to use.

Your lead/team is owned by common Taunters and Tricksters.

And no SR, srsly? Anyway, it suffers from a lot of problems as a stall team. First off, for Heracross, you have the spread from the Choice Band Heracross. For CSHera, you want a simple 252Atk/252Spe spread. Use him as a lead, to take out fast sweepers that would threaten your defensive tanks.
Vaporeon is better over Suicune since it counters Mixape, a very common stallbreaker, and Tyranitar doesn't enjoy directly switching into Surf, either. Wish support would be helpful for things that don't have instant recovery.

Have I used Heracross CBander and was it pain, Rotom-H some predict and a banal it was enough for ruining everything and ScarfTran as I stopped it?

 

[SEO]

Although this team's title is Stall team, it doesn't really do that well. The point I am trying to make is that Stall Teams rely on SR, Spikes, Toxic Spikes, and Sandstorm to deal damage indirectly, and this team doesn't do that at all. You might want to drop the Stall concept and maybe go for a Bulky Offensive team? Leading with Cresselia is just not a good idea, instead why not lead with another pokemon. Why not try out ScarfGross? He's Bulky enough to be able to either set up SR or TrickScarf another lead.

You might also want to work on your grammar, your team is really hard to rate if you can't really read it.

 

[faint]

First off change the font of Cresselia and Suicune, right now they're pretty much impossible to read.

Now I really would advise you to fix up your threat list since it's really bad right now. You menton that Suicune takes down Gyarados and Milotic with Hidden Power [Electric] but yet it doesn't even have it. Next you say Magnezone counters Salamence, Tyranitar and Zapdos? Cresselia counters Gengar? None of these are true, which is why I think you should fix this team up a bit more.

 

[Sebastien Loeb]

First off change the font of Cresselia and Suicune, right now they're pretty much impossible to read.

Now I really would advise you to fix up your threat list since it's really bad right now. You menton that Suicune takes down Gyarados and Milotic with Hidden Power [Electric] but yet it doesn't even have it. Next you say Magnezone counters Salamence, Tyranitar and Zapdos? Cresselia counters Gengar? None of these are true, which is why I think you should fix this team up a bit more.

But it looks that this is alone one Test-Team, the I have used only and exclusively in Suspect Ladder (what the ladder that I use for making a will the new teams is, so I don't risk the points in the standard ladder).
If I change Suicune & Cresselia with whom replace them? And then as I stop ScarfTran?

 

[Sebastien Loeb]

Do forgive me the double post, are there other rate?
Meanwhile I have replaced Cresselia with a Scarfgross, as suggested from justly from Fenix.

 

[Upa]

I say lead with the Mence Life Orber. And when you lead with him, better put crunch or dragon claw because you need to kill then.

 

[Sebastien Loeb]

I say lead with the Mence Life Orber. And when you lead with him, better put crunch or dragon claw because you need to kill then.

On which moves I should insert DClaw and Crunch? For instance before abdicating to a moves as Fire Blast (what it allows me to strike Skamory and Bronzong) I would think it a lot of times.

 

[Upa]

oh, sorry, I meant-

Puut either Crunch or DClaw over Roost.
Because roosting is pretty much useless as a lead. And....

You could also Dragon Dance instead of roost, for the Speed boost.

Have you really tested this team, if yes, then prove it to me on shoddy.

 

[locopoke]

This team doesn't look very good at all. There's no synergy, no strategy. It just looks like you stuck random Pokemon together and decided to post it. I suggest you get a Mod to close this thread and you just start a whole new team, or maybe sign up for the Tutor program and learn a thing or 2 before you start making more teams on your own.

 

[Tangerine]

This team doesn't look very good at all. There's no synergy, no strategy. It just looks like you stuck random Pokemon together and decided to post it. I suggest you get a Mod to close this thread and you just start a whole new team, or maybe sign up for the Tutor program and learn a thing or 2 before you start making more teams on your own.

Man this sounds familiar.... too familiar....

Thread should have ended after Venom's post :(

Please read: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46905