Rate My Team! Standard Drizzle Team
Hey guys, I’ve been playing a lot of pokemon online lately, and I must say, generation 5 is a doozy. Overpowered pokemon roam the servers as if there was a massive infection. Strategies appear that seem gimmicky, yet powerful. Lost your perish song user? Get ready for shell smash Gorebyss to Garchomp! Prediction is far easier than it was in D/P… just throw a choiced Hurricane or Thunder out and watch stuff die. It may be just my inexperience with B/W, but I had a solid rating in D/P, around 1400-1500, and now I wouldn’t mind making 1300+. Any suggestions are welcome, including EV changes, move changes, and mon changes.
The foundation of my team is quite often seen in other squads.
Detailed Analysis:
Politoed (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SAtk
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Scald
- Perish Song
- Protect
- Ice Beam
As a drizzle team, this guy is my only option. Every Politoed set I've seen runs max SDef Evs, but I find that SAtk Evs help a lot in damaging Tyranitar, and other switch ins. Does anyone have any suggestion on how to play a max SDef Ev Politoed? I'm quite satisfied with my set right here, but I could change him up.
Breloom (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Spore
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Seed Bomb
This guy is great. Sleep is just such a powerful effect, and the fact that Tyranitar is so common allows me often to use him as a lead to face Tyranitars, Hippowdons, and other slow sillies and get off a free spore. Then next, depending if they have anyone who can handle Breloom or not, I either throw out a focus punch or substitute up. I've ended quite a few games with just Breloom, or gotten a double/triple kill with him.
Thundurus (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Thunder
- Volt Switch
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]
Stolen from another guy's RMT, this set works exceedingly well. The only problem that I have with this is the lack of flexibility. But seriously, with an incredible 111 speed, who needs flexibility? Choiced Thunders hurt. A lot.
Another set that I considered was the set with Hammer Arm, because I hate hate HATE focus blast's accuracy. Any recommendations? I'm quite glad with Thundurus the way he is.
Ferrothorn (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
- Leech Seed
- Power Whip
I decided to pack all of my SDef into Ferrothorn, which might not have been the best of ideas. Having all my SDef allows me to tank special attacks quite well, but the times I switch into physical moves hurt quite a lot more than they did when i was a mixed 128/128. Also, power whip, spikes, or protect? All have their pluses and cons.
Latios (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Thunder
- Surf
- Draco Meteor
- Hidden Power [Fire]
This set hits hard, especially with Thunder and Surf under rain. However, he dies quickly and I don't really feel like he is pulling his weight well. Perhaps there is another rain abuser that I could be using more effectively? Or perhaps there is a better set?
Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Taunt
- Swords Dance
- Facade
- Earthquake
Lastly, I had a ground type put in, because I was sick of rotoms and thundurus abusing Volt Switch on me constantly. Gliscor is just a very solid pokemon overall in this generation... yet I don't think I'm running the ideal set. Anyone else have any clues about the popular Gliscor sets this generation?
My thoughts right now is perhaps switching Gliscor out for Excadrill with rapid spin and switching out Latios for a lightning rod Zapdos. Thoughts?
Hey guys, I’ve been playing a lot of pokemon online lately, and I must say, generation 5 is a doozy. Overpowered pokemon roam the servers as if there was a massive infection. Strategies appear that seem gimmicky, yet powerful. Lost your perish song user? Get ready for shell smash Gorebyss to Garchomp! Prediction is far easier than it was in D/P… just throw a choiced Hurricane or Thunder out and watch stuff die. It may be just my inexperience with B/W, but I had a solid rating in D/P, around 1400-1500, and now I wouldn’t mind making 1300+. Any suggestions are welcome, including EV changes, move changes, and mon changes.
The foundation of my team is quite often seen in other squads.
Detailed Analysis:
Politoed (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SAtk
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Scald
- Perish Song
- Protect
- Ice Beam
As a drizzle team, this guy is my only option. Every Politoed set I've seen runs max SDef Evs, but I find that SAtk Evs help a lot in damaging Tyranitar, and other switch ins. Does anyone have any suggestion on how to play a max SDef Ev Politoed? I'm quite satisfied with my set right here, but I could change him up.
Breloom (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Spore
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Seed Bomb
This guy is great. Sleep is just such a powerful effect, and the fact that Tyranitar is so common allows me often to use him as a lead to face Tyranitars, Hippowdons, and other slow sillies and get off a free spore. Then next, depending if they have anyone who can handle Breloom or not, I either throw out a focus punch or substitute up. I've ended quite a few games with just Breloom, or gotten a double/triple kill with him.
Thundurus (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Thunder
- Volt Switch
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]
Stolen from another guy's RMT, this set works exceedingly well. The only problem that I have with this is the lack of flexibility. But seriously, with an incredible 111 speed, who needs flexibility? Choiced Thunders hurt. A lot.
Another set that I considered was the set with Hammer Arm, because I hate hate HATE focus blast's accuracy. Any recommendations? I'm quite glad with Thundurus the way he is.
Ferrothorn (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
- Leech Seed
- Power Whip
I decided to pack all of my SDef into Ferrothorn, which might not have been the best of ideas. Having all my SDef allows me to tank special attacks quite well, but the times I switch into physical moves hurt quite a lot more than they did when i was a mixed 128/128. Also, power whip, spikes, or protect? All have their pluses and cons.
Latios (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Thunder
- Surf
- Draco Meteor
- Hidden Power [Fire]
This set hits hard, especially with Thunder and Surf under rain. However, he dies quickly and I don't really feel like he is pulling his weight well. Perhaps there is another rain abuser that I could be using more effectively? Or perhaps there is a better set?
Gliscor (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Taunt
- Swords Dance
- Facade
- Earthquake
Lastly, I had a ground type put in, because I was sick of rotoms and thundurus abusing Volt Switch on me constantly. Gliscor is just a very solid pokemon overall in this generation... yet I don't think I'm running the ideal set. Anyone else have any clues about the popular Gliscor sets this generation?
My thoughts right now is perhaps switching Gliscor out for Excadrill with rapid spin and switching out Latios for a lightning rod Zapdos. Thoughts?
If you're running Perish Song+Protect, I recommend shifting the SpAtk to SpDef for added survivability. I also recommend Toxic or Encore over Ice Beam, because Latios/Thundurus/Ferrothorn handle most Dragons anyway.@Breloom: Standard set, solid, you must have made a mistake writing out the EVs because it should have another four somewhere.@Thundurus: I like that, but I would recommend Hammer Arm over Focus Blast for added accuracy and because it handles Blissey better.@Ferrothorn: Recommend Spikes over Power Whip because you will be forcing a lot of switches.@Latios: HP Fire doesn't seem like a good idea in rain - for Steels except Ferrothorn, Surf/Thunder in rain will actually hit harder. If you really want to cripple Ferrothorn, you may want to experiment with Specs/Scarf and Trick, which also renders opposing Blissey useless.@Gliscor: That sounds fine for an offensive Gliscor set. If you want something more defensive, try EQ/Roost/Taunt/Fling or something along that line. You may also opt for Roost over Taunt on your current set for more survivability, so Gliscor doesn't have to worry as much about hits on the special side.