SV OU EASY OU Hamurott Hstack. [help needed]

Hello Smogon,
I have been on the forums for a while now. I recently made an offensive Hstack team and have received some success with it. My peak elo with this team was 1560
I would like some help for some common matchups.

The Team: https://pokepast.es/c854fd37979e7a09

THE MONS:


Spikes
Setter : Hisuian Samurott
IMG_0194.jpeg


Samurott-Hisui @ Rindo Berry
Ability: Sharpness
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Ceaseless Edge
- Knock Off
- X-Scissor
- Aqua Jet

This Samurott is the spike setter of our team. However this set of Samurott is not standard and has the move X scissor , which is boosted by sharpness. This allows Samurott to snipe Ogerpon wellspring which is a huge issue for my team. Furthermore this Samurott is holding rindoberry which allows it to survive a single power whip from jolly Wellspring. With adamant nature it OHKOs no bulk wellspring. However I do think that HDB is better overall. This is the first knock off user of the team


Spin Blocker: Gholdengo
IMG_0193.jpeg


Gholdengo @ Air Balloon
Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 252 HP / 12 Def / 244 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Make It Rain
- Shadow Ball
- Recover
- Nasty Plot

This is a non standard bulky gholdengo specialising in bulk and damage output.Holding an air balloon so that I don’t have to play mind games with Great tusk( unless knockoff).I am choosing gholdengo over other spin blockers because gholdengo blocks Defog which is excellent against stall teams.It also has excellent matchup against blissey and gweezing.


Stealth Rock setter: Landorus Therian

IMG_0190.jpeg


Landorus-Therian @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- U-turn
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake

This is probably the first standard set of my team. Landorus is the stealth rock setter of the team while also acting as a pivot and taunt user. It is also extreme good against stall , preventing recovery and hazards. Preventing hazards is extremely important since this team does not have any removal. Earthpower can also be used over earthquake.


Setup Sweeper: Kingambit

IMG_0191.jpeg

Kingambit @ Leftovers
Ability: Supreme Overlord
Tera Type: Flying
EVs: 200 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Kowtow Cleave
- Sucker Punch
- Low Kick
- Swords Dance

Kingambit abuses spikes to chip its common checks to the point it can handle them. It is also an excellent user of tera flying. Most common way to use this in the team is to setup in front of ground and fighting types after Tera flying. This mon provide excellent priority with sucker punch. It is using low kick to one shot other gambits.This set however can be walled by fairy types if you don’t have swords dance boosts.


Another Setup Sweeper: Dragonite
IMG_0192.jpeg


Dragonite @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Multiscale
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Extreme Speed
- Ice Spinner
- Earthquake

This Dragonite set is extremely good at hitting things with neutral damage. It can use multiscale to setup on most attacks . Along with Tera it can almost setup in any situation.However this set is extremely ineffective against corvi and Moltres. Tera fire against flame body mons to avoid burns . This mon also gives the team a second priority user.

Speed Control
: Iron Valiant
IMG_0195.jpeg


Iron Valiant @ Booster Energy
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Knock Off
- Close Combat
- Moonblast
- Encore

Iron Valiant is the speed demon of the team . Booster energy allows it to outspeed every other non scarf/energy mon. This set is using Tera dark for stronger knock off against Slowkings, Pecharunt and Gholdengo.This is the second knock off user of the teams. This mon is only tera’d when in a sweeping position against gholdengo or Gking since Tera dark doesn’t provide much defensively.

PROS
This team is never passive and always applies pressure on the opponent.Playing with this team I have only lost a single time to stall even though I dreaded even when thinking about stall matchup. This team is good against setup sweepers too.

CONS
This team lacks checks to common pokemon. These are —Meowscarada, OgerponW, Primarina ,Moltres.

HELP NEEDED to improve my matchup against these Mons and against the Sun matchup.
 
Last edited:
Quick comments - probably not going to do a full rate but can at least point in the right direction. Samurott-Hisui is probably a little too creative for what this team needs. Rindo Berry is a nice idea for Wellspring, but it doesn't even stop it cleanly if it picks Play Rough or U-turn. I'd try Protective Pads with Flip Turn over X-Scissor to give an option to handle Moltres (Pads will prevent Wisp burns from Flame Body).

The threat list seems accurate but fixable. Meowscarada and Ogerpon-W don't have a ton of defensive checks, but both can easily be revenge killed by Iron Valiant. Dragonite can farm sun teams with the right set, but I don't think this team takes advantage of its strengths enough to justify its slot. I would swap it for Raging Bolt. This can switch into Primarina and Moltres, revenge Ogerpon-W, and handle some sets of Meowscarada once scouted for Triple Axel and Play Rough. It also fixes your sun issues since Raging Bolt has a unique combination of Protosynthesis, priority, and Special Attack prowess that sun really struggles to handle. The paste I included is the typical set I use with the EVs designed to live a Headlong Rush from Great Tusk.

I'll post an updated paste here, but those two fixes should be enough to "unstuck" any current struggles. There are other minor fixes I can suggest later, but I would start with those two modifications and go from there. Good luck with the team!
 
Will echo what toshi said, as well as adding on the potential for a Ting-Lu/Treads in place of Lando. It will cost you a ground immunity and intimidate but will almost certainly change how your team can take hits as well as add a Rapid Spinner (if treads) which your team currently lacks. If you get stuck in a hazard war your team loses rn. You also need a utility knock off user, potentially, as Valiant is very high commitment and a potentially dicey switch during longer games. HDB Treads would actually give you wayyy more flexibility rn
 
Back
Top